Yay! Geddin! We beat Andorra 5-0

mickrick · 02-09-2006, 9:46 PM

We beat the mighty Andorra 5-0. And as I come from Belfast, who else would I support but World Champions England?

What, Andorra aren't mighty and England aren't World Champions? But I should be supporting England, right?

Demonio · 02-09-2006, 10:48 PM

Hehe England probably won't win anything this century. But dropping Beckham off the squad is an improvement

Ian J · 03-09-2006, 6:29 AM

Whereas your team were beaten three nil by the equally mighty Iceland having given what the BBC described as a "woeful display"

CFC1 · 03-09-2006, 8:52 AM

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Whereas your team were beaten three nil by the equally mighty Iceland having given what the BBC described as a "woeful display"

Yeah, you mean you weren't at Windsor park to watch Eidur and the boys?

Hairy · 03-09-2006, 11:11 AM

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Whereas your team were beaten three nil by the equally mighty Iceland having given what the BBC described as a "woeful display"

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Yeah, you mean you weren't at Windsor park to watch Eidur and the boys?

I think he may have been clamped after those two.

mickrick · 03-09-2006, 12:29 PM

I'm an Arsenal supporter only. No other teams, domestic, foreign or international. I just hate getting En-ger-lund shoved down my throat because I happen to live in a part of the UK.

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 12:38 PM

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I'm an Arsenal supporter only. .

Well that explains alot.

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. I just hate getting En-ger-lund .

Well you support the right team then.

bobsplace · 03-09-2006, 12:44 PM

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Well that explains alot.

Well you support the right team then.

quality

overkill · 03-09-2006, 1:34 PM

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Well that explains alot.

Well you support the right team then.

.............said the guy who's team set the whole foreign player 'flood' rolling.

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 1:52 PM

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.............said the guy who's team set the whole foreign player 'flood' rolling.

Once you remove them blinker im sure you will see there was foreigners playing in this country long before Ossie and Ricky.

overkill · 03-09-2006, 2:12 PM

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Once you remove them blinker im sure you will see there was foreigners playing in this country long before Ossie and Ricky.

There were indeed hunts, but by universal agreement, it was the Ardiles & Villa import that turned them from novelties to English leauge regulars.

Hunts, from the things you've said about our lot, you can't accuse anyone of wearing blinkers!

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 2:20 PM

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There were indeed hunts, but by universal agreement, it was the Ardiles & Villa import that turned them from novelties to English leauge regulars.

Hunts, from the things you've said about our lot, you can't accuse anyone of wearing blinkers!

Our lot?

How many English players do you lot have?

If you don't like my replies ignore them.

overkill · 03-09-2006, 2:27 PM

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Our lot?

How many English players do you lot have?

If you don't like my replies ignore them.

Arsenal.

Three.

No need to get shirty.

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 2:36 PM

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Three.
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Who love to know who the 3 are in your starting 11?

Shirty, not at all.

Woodywizz · 03-09-2006, 2:38 PM

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I'm an Arsenal supporter only. No other teams, domestic, foreign or international. I just hate getting En-ger-lund shoved down my throat because I happen to live in a part of the UK.

Why start a thread then that is bound to cause some retaliatory replies??

Abbeygoo · 03-09-2006, 2:46 PM

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I'm an Arsenal supporter only. No other teams, domestic, foreign or international. I just hate getting En-ger-lund shoved down my throat because I happen to live in a part of the UK.

As your location states, "who really cares?"

Pointless thread.

mickrick · 03-09-2006, 3:29 PM

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Well that explains alot.

Well you support the right team then.

:snigger:

mickrick · 03-09-2006, 3:31 PM

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As your location states, "who really cares?"

Pointless thread.

So pointless you thought it wise to reply.

Thank you so much. I haven't had a lot to laugh about lately, you've just given me plenty to be going on with.

overkill · 03-09-2006, 3:54 PM

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Who love to know who the 3 are in your starting 11?

Shirty, not at all.

In the first team we now have Hoyte, Walcott and Connolly, all of whom have played already this season. Obviously I would like to see English players as regulars, but increasingly now other teams have less room to criticise, as some of them have huge foreign contingents. Although, it has to be said Spurs aren't one of them.

Whether that will remain the case as Spurs look to make a serious challenge remains to be seen.

I call a 'if you don't like my post then don't respond' to what was light hearted dig by me, shirty.

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 4:10 PM

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Well that explains alot.

Well you support the right team then.

So like i posted.

Not one English player in your starting 11.Not one scummer in the England set up.

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I call a 'if you don't like my post then don't respond' to what was light hearted dig by me, shirty.

On a serious note how do you think the new rules from UEFA about home grown players will effect teams like Arsenal?

overkill · 03-09-2006, 7:31 PM

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So like i posted.

Not one English player in your starting 11.Not one scummer in the England set up.

On a serious note how do you think the new rules from UEFA about home grown players will effect teams like Arsenal?

On the first point, who cares? As Arsenal players always get 'picked out' as chief culprits whenever England lose, it tends to dent my enthusiasm for them playing for England. I'm still proud everytime one of our player is picked for his country, but it always comes with a hint of trepidation.

On the second, as someone else pointed out in another thread, because the new ruling is so woolly it won't have much impact. For example, the likes of Senderos and Fabregas will be excluded from it as they came in as youth players rather than as full transfers. Even though it would hit Arsenal hard, frankly, I would rather see the 1980's Italian ruling brought in which meant that no more than four players in any team actually playing in a match could be overseas. This idea of limiting the number of overseas squad players is just a joke. If you have twelve overseas players out of, say 24, they can still all be regulars at the expense of home grown talent.

Back on topic, if something drastic isn't done soon we will see a real tail off in quality players coming through for England. With Arsenal now a majority overseas, Liverpool getting close, Man Utd fielding quite a few now, and Chelsea packed with em', that doesn't open many doors to English players to get experience at the top level, or in the CL against the very top foreign stars.

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 7:40 PM

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Back on topic, if something drastic isn't done soon we will see a real tail off in quality players coming through for England. With Arsenal now a majority overseas, Liverpool getting close, Man Utd fielding quite a few now, and Chelsea packed with em', that doesn't open many doors to English players to get experience at the top level, or in the CL against the very top foreign stars.

I think it's already effecting our England squad.We probably have 5 world class players as far as the rest of the players go i would say there squad players.

CFC1 · 03-09-2006, 7:44 PM

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With Arsenal now a majority overseas, .....and Chelsea packed with em',

I agree with most of the good sense you inpart, but I am gonna stick my neck out and take issue with you on this one point:

With John Terry, Cashley Cole, Wayne Bridge, Frank Lampard, Joey Cole & Shaun Wright-Phillips now all in the first team frame, we are better endowed with English players than any of our title competitors...... and I would hazard a confident guess at most of the league as well!

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 7:46 PM

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and I would hazard a confident guess at most of the league as well!

Would disagree with last bit as we probably have.

CFC1 · 03-09-2006, 7:54 PM

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I think it's already effecting our England squad.We probably have 5 world class players as far as the rest of the players go i would say there squad players.

Mate, without wanting to incur your wrath, I would say that no team in the world has 5 truly world class players! Out of the England players, I would say our top-rated players were (in no particular order): Ferdinand, Terry, Cashley Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney, Joe Cole. You may have 1 or 2 more to add, but how many are world class?... Maybe 5!

CFC1 · 03-09-2006, 8:02 PM

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Would disagree with last bit as we probably have.

I didn't say all of the league... certainly less than half!

Things were definitely at their worst under Vialli, when we fielded the first all foreign team, but things have improved in the last 3 or 4 years....I remember an England friendly a couple of years back when Chelsea had 6 players on the pitch at once (including Scotty Parker and Glenn Johnson)

thfccambs · 03-09-2006, 8:25 PM

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(including Scotty Parker and Glenn Johnson)

Who both got forced out by forigern imports.

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Ferdinand, Terry, Cashley Cole, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney, Joe Cole. You may have 1 or 2 more to add, but how many are world class?... Maybe 5!

Wouldn't class Joe Cole as world class,also on Lampards last 6 months performance neither class his as world class,Owens not the player he was at Liverpool either.Out of the above i would say weprobably have 4 world class players.

Abbeygoo · 03-09-2006, 8:31 PM

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So pointless you thought it wise to reply.

Thank you so much. I haven't had a lot to laugh about lately, you've just given me plenty to be going on with.

I'd have thought watching Northern Ireland yesterday would have you given endless entertainment.

As for me providing you with a laugh, so pleased to be of service

overkill · 03-09-2006, 8:31 PM

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I agree with most of the good sense you inpart, but I am gonna stick my neck out and take issue with you on this one point:

With John Terry, Cashley Cole, Wayne Bridge, Frank Lampard, Joey Cole & Shaun Wright-Phillips now all in the first team frame, we are better endowed with English players than any of our title competitors...... and I would hazard a confident guess at most of the league as well!

I think the key words are 'in the frame'. I counted eight foreign 1st team regulars and two players who will be given their profile. Feel free to correct me as a Chelsea fan: Cech, Carvalho, Essien, Makelele, Ballack, Robben, Drogba, Shevchenko. That leaves just Terry, J Cole and Lampard as geniune regulars. Yes Cashley Cole is liable to make that four, but not until he's match fit. SWP rarely plays, Wayne Bridge, until the start of this season must have wondered what a football was - when he's actually at Chelsea! Add to that Geremi, Cudicini, Ferreira, Boulahrouz, Diarra, Mikel and Kalou, which makes up the rest of the 1st team numbers and therefore, in squad terms, Chelsea is packed with foreign players.

As for England, I agree Hunts. In terms of 'World Class' players I think we can just about get to the fingers of one hand - if we are feeling generous and including Ferdinand.

CFC1 · 03-09-2006, 8:34 PM

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Who both got forced out by forigern imports.

Wouldn't class Joe Cole as world class,also on Lampards last 6 months performance neither class his as world class,Owens not the player he was at Liverpool either.Out of the above i would say weprobably have 4 world class players.

Parker was desperately unlucky, but Makalele is the best in that position......!

Right, Lamps has had a dip, but surely there's no doubting his pedigree.....!