Inflated Transfer Fees

CFC1 · 23-08-2006, 10:38 AM

Chelsea really do have a lot to answer for. I can see where everyone is coming from, being priced out of the market for even average players. Will the current situation end anytime soon, or will Abramovich's billions keep it going for the foreseeable future?

DJT75 · 23-08-2006, 1:45 PM

It has come down dramatically in the last 5 years or so, e.g: Real Madrid have just paid a little more for Van Nistelrooy than Liverpool did for Heskey.

Some players still go for huge amounts here & on the continent but they are the top bunch, we won't see the likes of Buffon moving for £30m+ again in the near future.

The only team really paying over the odds for any particular player is Chelsea & seeing as it's one price for Chelsea, one for everyone else, it doesn't affect anyone else & only Chelsea lose/win whichever way you look at it. The only thing it affects is other teams possibilities of purchasing players that are on the Chelsea radar but I'm convinced even that is over for your average player - only players who are capable of a 1st team place anywhere in the world would choose Chelsea over another offer. I think the lesser players are wising up to the cash v football decision.

Man U may have paid over the odds for Carrick but Fergie is convinced he's the exact man he needs, English, Premiership proven etc...not just a decent midfielder - he wanted Michael Carrick. That sort of over pricing I can understand, £16m for Ferreira I can't.

DJT75 · 23-08-2006, 1:51 PM

ps. Didn't realise Mahamadou Diarra had left Lyon for Madrid yesterday, missed that one. Cost them £17.6m & Man Utd were told to match what Essien went for. So there's your Chelsea price factor again.

hottstuff · 23-08-2006, 2:07 PM

The teams cashpile grows every year.
It doesn't look good for the future.

God help the less off teams who struggle to stay where they are , like tottenham etc.

CFC1 · 23-08-2006, 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJT75

Man U may have paid over the odds for Carrick..... English, Premiership proven etc...

I agree with everything in your post apart from this!
What has Carrick done in the Premiership to be considered proven? IMO, Lampard, Gerrard, Keane, Vieira, Robbie Savage (!), now they are proven performers....

**Steven** · 23-08-2006, 5:11 PM

Savage? Please don't degrade yourself any further...

So you're insinuating Carrick probably doesn't and in future will never live up to the fee. As a Chelski fan you're complaining because...

On a more serious note, what is most humourous is that he was bought presuambly to fill in Keane's boots...even getting his No16 shirt. However the only thing Spurs fans on this forum seemed to agree on was Carrick can't/won't tackle to save his life...

CFC1 · 23-08-2006, 5:14 PM

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...he was bought presuambly to fill in Keane's boots...even getting his No16 shirt. However the only thing Spurs fans on this forum seemed to agree on was Carrick can't/won't tackle to save his life...

But tell me he can score goals or head a ball, or kick with his left foot, or .....

emporer · 23-08-2006, 5:18 PM

three letters SWP

emporer · 23-08-2006, 5:18 PM

if anyone aint living up to his fee, its SWP

CFC1 · 23-08-2006, 5:31 PM

Hey, I ain't defending our purchase of SWP, but..... I suggest it was a case of not letting anyone else have him. Anyhow, given the chance, I still feel he will come good! Like Wayne Bridge, he is a confidence player and needs a run in the team to produce his best

DJT75 · 24-08-2006, 8:39 AM

Carrick's not a Keane replacement, just because Keane's gone & Carrick's come in doesn't mean he's his replacement. Man Utd play a different system now, Rooney comes back & gets the ball so you don't need a Keane type player charging around. He's seen Carrick at Spurs, keeping possession, passing accurately & taking the odd dead ball, that's what Man Utd need in the middle of the park & that's why he bought him. He's proven at the top level to do that job.

CFC1 · 24-08-2006, 9:42 AM

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......He's seen Carrick at Spurs, keeping possession, passing accurately & taking the odd dead ball, that's what Man Utd need in the middle of the park & that's why he bought him.

Where's Eric "so good, his mother named him twice" Djemba Djemba?

DJT75 · 24-08-2006, 10:46 AM

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Where's Eric "so good, his mother named him twice" Djemba Djemba?

Isn't he warming the bench at Villa Park these days?

CFC1 · 24-08-2006, 10:52 AM

Another class Fergie buy, in the mould of Taibi.

DJT75 · 24-08-2006, 11:19 AM

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Another class Fergie buy, in the mould of Taibi.

You gotta love the way these African nations flirt their talents on the world stage for the blinkered big spenders of Europe. Djemba Djemba, Diouf, Essien

chrisw · 24-08-2006, 11:33 AM

Chelsea didn't start this.. ManYoo have been doing this for years... and as for not living up to their price tag:

Veron = £28m!!!

CFC1 · 29-08-2006, 10:50 AM

I see that previous Chelsea target, winger Joaquin has joined Valencia from Real Betis for £16mil! Considering the money we have spent on wingers in the recent times, that looks an absolute steal for Valencia....

DJT75 · 29-08-2006, 11:41 AM

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I see that previous Chelsea target, winger Joaquin has joined Valencia from Real Betis for £16mil! Considering the money we have spent on wingers in the recent times, that looks an absolute steal for Valencia....

Dunno, Liverpool have been tracking him for years & from what I've seen he's worth £10m top whack - far too inconsistent for me. Luis Garcia keeps him out the Spanish team lately so can't be all that.

CFC1 · 29-08-2006, 5:24 PM

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.....far too inconsistent for me.

Fair enough... we don't need another!

*RMCF* · 29-08-2006, 6:36 PM

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Dunno, Liverpool have been tracking him for years & from what I've seen he's worth £10m top whack - far too inconsistent for me. Luis Garcia keeps him out the Spanish team lately so can't be all that.

Madrid were thinking of buying him for a couple of seasons too and didn't in the end.

I think he was the next big thing a few seasons back but has been too inconsistent in recent seasons to seal a deal. When he stayed at Betis for a few seasons after there was interest ,you can tell the 'big boys' were scared of taking the risk on him.

I think that Valencia are taking a risk at that money, but I would love to see him play well for them - always liked tricky wingers (like SWP!!!

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CFC1 · 29-08-2006, 6:40 PM

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....always liked tricky wingers (like SWP!!!

).

Hey, you're my kind of bloke..... I think!

mickrick · 29-08-2006, 8:43 PM

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Hey, I ain't defending our purchase of SWP, but..... I suggest it was a case of not letting anyone else have him.

WRONG!

SWP was offered to Arsenal THREE times for under £10m and they turned him down each time. I got that some months ago in the Botanic Inn in Belfast from his father when I asked him, in person, why he went to Chelsea and not Arsenal. He was quite angry at this as well.

neil666 · 29-08-2006, 8:53 PM

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You gotta love the way these African nations flirt their talents on the world stage for the blinkered big spenders of Europe. Djemba Djemba, Diouf, Essien

Essiens the expection, hes doing well at Chelski now, hes a quality player. He needed a bit of time to settle into English life and the game.

CFC1 · 29-08-2006, 9:42 PM

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Essiens the expection, hes doing well at Chelski now, hes a quality player. He needed a bit of time to settle into English life and the game.

Absolutely! Because the Likes of Liverpool and Man Utd pay over the odds crappy duds shouldn't deflect from the fact that there are excellent players that have come out of Africa that are worth the big money. Essien as you say, Drogba, Eto'o.

Zidane was involved in big transfers. In their primes, other Africans like Makelele, Vieira, Desailly would have attracted massive fees nowadays and would be worth every penny......

emporer · 30-08-2006, 7:56 AM

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Absolutely! Because the Likes of Liverpool and Man Utd pay over the odds crappy duds shouldn't deflect from the fact that there are excellent players that have come out of Africa that are worth the big money. Essien as you say, Drogba, Eto'o.

Zidane was involved in big transfers. In their primes, other Africans like Makelele, Vieira, Desailly would have attracted massive fees nowadays and would be worth every penny......

And Chelski don't pay over the odds for 'crappy duds' - SWP, Veron, and a few others...........

DJT75 · 30-08-2006, 8:23 AM

Essien's transfer fee was double what it should've been, not matter how well he's playing at the moment.

CFC1 · 30-08-2006, 9:22 AM

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And Chelski don't pay over the odds for 'crappy duds' - SWP, Veron, and a few others...........

The last time the Home Office checked, Veron and SWP weren't African!

CFC1 · 30-08-2006, 9:43 AM

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Essien's transfer fee was double what it should've been, not matter how well he's playing at the moment.

I agree we pay over the odds for most of our signings, but what can we do? Everyone knows we are mega rich and so take the p**s accordingly.

However, most of the players that we want to buy are highly valued by their clubs, who do not want to let them go, so we have to effectively "make them an offer they cant refuse".... Additionally, the clubs that we are dealing with aren't strapped for cash as they are playing Champs League football every year....

Lyon didn't want to let Essien go (and it's OK for you to say that he's only worth half of what we paid for him, but no one could have got him for £12mil, because he of his on field value to Lyon).

Same with Sheva, worth 30 mil at this point? I would say not, be we wanted him...... Ultimately, I think that having a player of his stature in the PL is prestigious. For all the money we have in this league, and for all the claims that it is the best league in the world, getting the top 3 or 4 players in the world to come here is nigh on impossible..