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Old 05-08-2006, 8:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Isn't it time FIFA/UEFA did something ....

.. to sort out the sorry mess that football is becoming.

The main thing I would like to see sorted is the increasing power of players. All I have read recently is players saying that they want out or they will never pull on a certain club shirt again. They are killing the game.

Ashley Cole and William Gallas are the 2 recent high profile cases - I just went on to Soccernet and read that Ribery wants out of Marseille!! Where will it end?

These players have no respect for their employers, their contract, their supporters. All they care about is money and their high-profile lives in their cocooned world.

If Gallas doesn't want to play for Chelsea then why did he sign the last contract? Chelsea are that rich that they could actually take a stand against this nonsense and let him sit in the stands until his contract runs out, without releasing him. I would love to see that.

But I still think that its time that the governing bodies, who always claim 'for the good of the game', actually did something about it.
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Old 07-08-2006, 9:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Totally agree,the contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on.
I think the whole issue of transfers and contracts is very shady.
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Old 07-08-2006, 10:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This is one of the reasons why us "old timers" who post on here have been getting fed up with the game for the last few years
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its also another good reason why some of us prefer to watch lower league football. Less wages and less skill = less prima-donnas behaving like that and having hissy fits.

If a player further down the pecking order refuses to play for a club, he's a good chance of not having a club at all! At that level, no club = no money.
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Old 07-08-2006, 1:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I think if they cut back on the power of agents and handlers then a lot of this problem would go away. Quite how they do that I don't know.
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Old 07-08-2006, 1:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ashley Cole and William Gallas are the 2 recent high profile cases - I just went on to Soccernet and read that Ribery wants out of Marseille!! Where will it end?

These players have no respect for their employers, their contract, their supporters. All they care about is money and their high-profile lives in their cocooned world.
You could say the same about Average Job. How many people move jobs in real life, because they want a better pay cheque? Stuff loyalty to their employers.
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Old 07-08-2006, 2:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You could say the same about Average Job. How many people move jobs in real life, because they want a better pay cheque? Stuff loyalty to their employers.
But some of us do that so we can pay the bills! Not sure William Gallas or Ashley Cole have the same problem, really...

Sure you can draw a parallel, but with the money involved now it's not really horses for courses, is it?
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Old 07-08-2006, 2:38 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You could say the same about Average Job. How many people move jobs in real life, because they want a better pay cheque? Stuff loyalty to their employers.
Try watching Footballers cribs on MTV
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Old 07-08-2006, 2:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Try watching Footballers cribs on MTV
It's all relative....as the thread on TAX last week proved.
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Old 07-08-2006, 3:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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You could say the same about Average Job. How many people move jobs in real life, because they want a better pay cheque? Stuff loyalty to their employers.
People move jobs in the real world to pay the bills. Footballers, even from the current 'championship' upwards no longer, and never did really, face that problem. That's the whole point of the big wages in football, so they don't have to worry about injury cutting short their career, and, in the 'old days', having no job afterwards compared to other working men. However, in these days of 'silly money' being paid, and no more 'jobs for life' that's also a thing of the past.

However, if you sign a contract with a company to work for them over a specific time period and agree in that contract not to contact other employers you are oblidged to see out said contract and no greedy, shiftless agent can tout around your CV on your behalf. If you don't honour that contract you are fired, and would find it hard to get another job after doing so.

Clubs don't have the latter comeback. If you fire a top player for breach of contract how many seconds would it be before he's snapped up by another club? Therefore the clubs have to lock players into a contract that's not really to their benefit (the clubs) these days.

The players want it all ways. Fat contracts, freedom to prostitute themselves to the highest bidder, and no comebacks if they do. There is no excuse for the behaviour of Gallas and Cole. It's petulance, nothing more.

As for FIFA helping the current dire situation - fat chance. Another daft piece of FIFA gargage has caused this situation:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...an/5233096.stm
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.. Chelsea are that rich that they could actually take a stand against this nonsense and let him sit in the stands until his contract runs out, without releasing him. I would love to see that.
Funnily enough I would like to see that too!
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Old 07-08-2006, 4:41 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think if they cut back on the power of agents and handlers then a lot of this problem would go away. Quite how they do that I don't know.

your right there half the time the players dont even wanna move,its the agents who try and unsettle players,telling them 'i can get you more money' where in fact its the agent that gets loads of money in the deal
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Its also another good reason why some of us prefer to watch lower league football. Less wages and less skill = less prima-donnas behaving like that and having hissy fits.
You don't choose your team, it chooses you.

I have no choice but to watch Liverpool.
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your right there half the time the players dont even wanna move,its the agents who try and unsettle players,telling them 'i can get you more money' where in fact its the agent that gets loads of money in the deal
Was wondering, do players still get a signing-on fee these days?

I remember years ago they used to get approx 10% of the transfer fee - but in these days of huge wages perhaps that is done away with now.
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I have no choice but to watch Liverpool.

Thats a little unlucky for yourself though.lol.

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