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14-07-2006, 7:03 PM
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Juventus also deducted 30 poiints .. Milan have a 15 point deduction ...
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14-07-2006, 7:06 PM
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Hmm... Berlusconi didn't have a hand in that one, I'm sure! 
Juve deserved to go down 2 divisions as far as I'm concerned - one season is too easy, and it makes the punishment on either Fiorentina or Lazio worse as one of them will now spend 2 seasons in the 2nd division.
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14-07-2006, 7:08 PM
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Juve wont get out next season .. they have to make up 30 points to get to zero .. then get enough to get promoted ..2 seasons in seria B at least !
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14-07-2006, 7:13 PM
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Big Summer Sale ---------------------- 
I take it every team outside Italy will now be jumping for cheap as chips players.
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14-07-2006, 7:15 PM
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and of course at least 3 seasons without champions league .. goodness me and I thought it was a bad nite for Utd fans with Ruud heading out ...
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14-07-2006, 7:32 PM
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AC Milan will stay in Serie A but will lose 15 points and will be kicked out of the Champions League.
Juventus were also stripped of their last two titles and had 30 points deducted
meaning that they are almost certain to stay down for two seasons.
Lazio were penalised seven points while Fiorentina suffered a 12 point penalty. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/5164194.stm | |
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14-07-2006, 7:35 PM
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Juve could go down to c too, a team got relegated with 46pts from serie b last year, and starting on -30 that could happen.
Hope Spurs grab some decent players.
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14-07-2006, 7:36 PM
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I wouldn't be so sure, wait until the appeal process has finished... wouldnt surprise me to see sentenances reduced
Serie B is really poor compared to Championship, even with 30 points deduction, if they keep their players wouldn't surprise me to see them get straight out, remember you play 42 games in Serie B
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14-07-2006, 7:37 PM
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Anyone else smell a rat in regards to Milan. Do you think that Berlusconi has any input to the final decisions. Juve are going to find it extremely difficult to get out of that division in one season. I always have believed that since the story came to light that Milan were going to be more equally treated than the other clubs. If their is enough evidence to dock Milan 15 points, I believe they should have been relegated also.
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14-07-2006, 7:39 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeyleader Juve wont get out next season .. they have to make up 30 points to get to zero .. then get enough to get promoted ..2 seasons in seria B at least ! | Juve will come straight back up, mark my words.. Unbeaten all season and a few competitors falling by the wayside due to "interesting" refereeing decisions and Robert's your mum's brother. 
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14-07-2006, 7:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OldAndSenile Juve will come straight back up, mark my words.. Unbeaten all season and a few competitors falling by the wayside due to "interesting" refereeing decisions and Robert's your mum's brother. | Are you trying to imply there is some corruption in Italian football? I seem to remember hearing that rumour somewhere before...
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14-07-2006, 8:36 PM
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14-07-2006, 10:15 PM
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i think the only certainty is that they will be out of european football next year as the Italian FA have to hand the list of clubs playing to UEFA in 11 days time.
All the clubs will appeal and it will drag on for ages - i can see the start of the season being delayed till the appeals are heard.
Until then i think clubs will hang on to the top players - shame - Madrid can;t buy the whole of seria A - can they???? 
Would be some nice players to get in the premiership.
Buffon, Nedved, Canavarno, Ibrahiavic, Veira, Zambrotta, Del piero, etc etc
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14-07-2006, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by booyaka Buffon, Nedved, Canavarno, Ibrahiavic, Veira, Zambrotta, Del piero, etc etc | Well Cannavaro is going to Madrid. 
They are also interested in Zambrotta, although they are not so much in need of a RB what with Salgado and Cicinho being there.
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14-07-2006, 10:56 PM
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Personally I think the sentences are a little harsh, especially on the fans and the players, who were totally innocent of any wrong-doing.
Juve now will probably have to spend 2 seasons in Serie B, thats unless their appeal reduces the punishment, which there is a good chance of happening.
Some think that they will win all their games and come back up, but not if they lose most of their players they won't. If they kept the same side you'd have to fancy them winning their 1st x 10 games and being at 0pts, with the top 3 probably being on, say, 22pts or 23pts. Then they might still make promotion.
It looks like the authorities just had enough and wanted to stop this nonsense ever happening again. Putting Moggi in jail might have been a start!!
But Inter, Roma, Chievo and Palermo being in the CL next season!! Wouldn't put any money on an Italian winner - its lowers the competition for EVERY football fan in europe, not just the fans of the 4 affected clubs.
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