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Old 01-06-2006, 6:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spurs might be in the CL yet !!

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TBH it is a bit of a travesty having 3rd place teams there, let alone 5th!
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I thought no one would care if I started this thread myself, but it seems I was wrong

Probably would come to nothing anyway so don't get your hopes up....or I may be proved wrong
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Old 01-06-2006, 7:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought no one would care if I started this thread myself, but it seems I was wrong

Probably would come to nothing anyway so don't get your hopes up....or I may be proved wrong
Seeing Wenger's moaning old face when Arsenal kicked out of CL, and laughing at Henry for not playing at Europe, all in their lovely new stadium - why would no-one be interested!!!!
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Old 01-06-2006, 7:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Probably would come to nothing anyway so don't get your hopes up....or I may be proved wrong
Not going to happen - football is corrupt the world over, and this isn't going to change a thing.

It makes you wonder though - if the club is dodgy enough to make secret payments to foreign clubs to import players from Africa, how far away is it for them to drop a chef a cheque for 500 quid to take a poop in a lasagne?
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Old 01-06-2006, 7:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 02-06-2006, 7:19 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Won't happen.

As a memeber of the G14, and with Deins influence, Arsenal will wriggle out of it - if indeed they are guilty.
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Old 02-06-2006, 9:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Won't happen.

As a memeber of the G14, and with Deins influence, Arsenal will wriggle out of it - if indeed they are guilty.
They could well be DC. Apparently this was mentioned a few weeks back, and not just one club was said to be involved. The guy who did the report said a "a number of major English clubs are suspected to have been involved in an 'inappropriate way' with smaller clubs in Europe".

Seems Arsenals 'alleged' antics may just be the tip of the iceberg.

Funny how no-one noticed when the Beeb announced this on the radio? Burying of bad news again perhaps?
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Old 02-06-2006, 9:42 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Even if Arsenal or any other top 4 team is found to have been a tad naughty, it's not gonna get through the system in time for next seasons Champs League is it? These things take months, years to come to a conclusion so Spurs will have to finish 5th for another few seasons to benefit from any penalty imposed.
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Old 02-06-2006, 9:48 AM   #10 (permalink)
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If Arsenal were to be excluded form the CL, I think it would be farcical to allow the 5th place team to enter - and I speak as a Spurs supporter. To me it makes sense to just give one of the other genuine qualifiers a bye to the group stages.

As Games Guru said, its a travesty for 3rd place to qualify for Champions League, never mind 5th !
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Old 02-06-2006, 9:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Its certainly is a strange situation.

Not only for the money they put into the company 'Goal' who took over the running of FC Beveren, but it's the other bits that go with that.

The whole investigation started because lots of Ivory Coast players from the same accademy went to Beveren. Arsene Wenger is an investor in the academy, and part of the deal is he gets a kick back from players sales. Kolo Toure was bought directly from the academy, so Wenger profited from this transfer. I thyink that's the bit that's against FIFA rules for managers. The loan to Beveren I think they'll get away with.
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If Arsenal were to be excluded form the CL, I think it would be farcical to allow the 5th place team to enter - and I speak as a Spurs supporter. To me it makes sense to just give one of the other genuine qualifiers a bye to the group stages.

As Games Guru said, its a travesty for 3rd place to qualify for Champions League, never mind 5th !
Agreed DC. To me the whole idea of a 'Champions leauge' (why doesn't someone get on to trade descriptions? ) is that it should be champions taking part. Ie the LC and EC only. Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal should be in the UEFA cup.

A lawyer was on earlier, and he reckons Arsenal have no case to answer, but Wenger could be in for a hefty fine.
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none of the football governing bodies, the fa, uefa, fifa have the balls to punish any of the major clubs properly, let alone one in the g14 or whatever it's called, so all that'll happen if they get found guilty is they'll get a fine that one of their youth squad could easily afford to reach into their back pocket and pay.

to be honest though, i've been saying for years that it'd make sense for the bigger clubs to loan money to smaller clubs, rather than go through the charade of having a friendly match and giving all the proceeds to the club, so although i don't really have any love for arsenal, i say good on them in this situation.
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to be honest though, i've been saying for years that it'd make sense for the bigger clubs to loan money to smaller clubs, rather than go through the charade of having a friendly match and giving all the proceeds to the club, so although i don't really have any love for arsenal, i say good on them in this situation.
It's not just about the loaning of money though Marc. If I were an Arsenal fan and knew that Wenger would make money from particular signings, I'd be scepticle as to whether we are sighning somebody for the right reasons. I'm not saying that is the case with Toure, as he is obviously a good player. I just think these people shouldn't be involved in any other aspect of football, other than what Arsenal FC employ them to do.
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Have you actually seen the Beveren squad? Here ... a squad of 30 where about 2/3 are from the Ivory Coast?

What Arsenal are doing is against the rules of football, no doubt, but its definitely not professional and it's definitely dodgy enough for them to have catagorically denied anything to do with it up until yesterday afternoon?

Oh -- and their manager is called "Ed de Bolle", which made me chuckle..
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