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Old 31-05-2006, 1:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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England, your formation.

Being that there are some obvious problems. What would your best formation and selection be?

I was thinking weather or not Beckham could play on the left and put Lennon on the right, with Lampard and Gerard in the middle and Cole in the space behind a striker.

As for the back end. Cole, Terry, Ferdinand and ?????
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Old 31-05-2006, 1:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Being that there are some obvious problems. What would your best formation and selection be?

I was thinking weather or not Beckham could play on the left and put Lennon on the right, with Lampard and Gerard in the middle and Cole in the space behind a striker.

As for the back end. Cole, Terry, Ferdinand and ?????
Gary Neville obviously, he is one of the worlds best right backs. Abseloutly reliable and good at getting forward.
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I was watching the game last night with a mate, and we were discussing yer (Englands) chances. Overall, I think England have one of the stongest teams, and have a great chance. Obvious weak spots are right back, and perhaps left mid, but Cole has looked great this last season. Player for player, ye are up there with Brazil and the Argies, but I think you need to play more as a "team", ie. a league team.

As for formations, depends on who is fit. I quite like the way France used to play. Not sure if they still do, not seen them in a while. The 4-2-3-1 formation.

With Rooney:

-----------Owen-----------
Cole------Rooney-----Beckham
-----Gerrard---Carragher-----
Cole---Rio-----JT-------ABN*

Without Rooney, put Gerrard in his place, and either Carrack or Lampard in Gerrards spot. I'd go with Carrick. Lampard is not that good as a holding player.

ABN* - Anyone But Neville. I think he's useless and was rubbish lastnight.
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Old 31-05-2006, 2:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Gary Neville obviously, he is one of the worlds best right backs. Abseloutly reliable and good at getting forward.

He slipped my mind for some reason.
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Old 31-05-2006, 2:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Without Rooney, put Gerrard in his place, and either Carrack or Lampard in Gerrards spot. I'd go with Carrick. Lampard is not that good as a holding player.

ABN* - Anyone But Neville. I think he's useless and was rubbish lastnight.
I know Gerrard is new to this new position, but i thought he was a bit too busy last night.

Also i think without Rooney, JCole would be better suited to play in that central role, mainly because he seemed to be the only one willing to dribble the ball. Gerrards long balls are far better than his touches i think.
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Old 31-05-2006, 2:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Paulie-W]

I was thinking weather or not Beckham could play on the left and put Lennon on the right[QUOTE]

Beckham on the left ?! He has NO left foot !

The team is beginning to pick itself. The 'holding role' that Erikson carps on about won't wotk because we have no one ideally suite to the role. As good as Carrick may be (and I'm a Spurs fan), he's more a creative player than a blocker at heart.

Sven should revert to 4-4-2, and I think he probably will...


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G.Neville Terry Ferdy A.Cole

Beckham Lamps Gerrard J.Cole

Crouch Owen


With Lennon to come on (on either wing) late on to terrify the oppo !
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[QUOTE=dc007][QUOTE=Paulie-W]

I was thinking weather or not Beckham could play on the left and put Lennon on the right
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Beckham on the left ?! He has NO left foot !

The team is beginning to pick itself. The 'holding role' that Erikson carps on about won't wotk because we have no one ideally suite to the role. As good as Carrick may be (and I'm a Spurs fan), he's more a creative player than a blocker at heart.

Sven should revert to 4-4-2, and I think he probably will...


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G.Neville Terry Ferdy A.Cole

Beckham Lamps Gerrard J.Cole

Crouch Owen


With Lennon to come on (on either wing) late on to terrify the oppo !
Yes agree with 4-4-2 and your team selection apart from I'd have Sol Campbell instead of Ferdinand anyday.

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Old 31-05-2006, 3:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Carrick is an excellent passer buty cant tackle. I fsven decides oin a holding platyer then my guess would be Hargreaves whop has never had a long enough chance to establish his claim. Should be played 90 mins against Jamaica. Other that that i think Sven will go for 4-4-2 with Owen up front with Crouch / Rooney or Defoe
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I was thinking weather or not Beckham could play on the left and put Lennon on the right

Yes agree with 4-4-2 and your team selection apart from I'd have Sol Campbell instead of Ferdinand anyday.

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Did you see Campbell last night? He was embarassingly bad.
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Did you see Campbell last night? He was embarassingly bad.
Yes I have to agree with that but IMO he is a better all round defender than Ferdinand.
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Did you see Campbell last night? He was embarassingly bad.
not long been back from all his troubles
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I was quite surprised at how bad Campbell was last night. What was it, 15 seconds before a yellow card. Nice one Sol............................Not
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In Sol's defence (if I can be on first name terms) A.Cole's pass sold him short. Sol could have made a vain attempt to close down, in which case the Hungarian would have been through on goal, or crunch him, take the free kick and regroup.

Move on

Hargreaves is a much bigger talking point. For a natural DMC, he got showed up by Carra! True Carra didn't play one pass forwards, but didn't screw up defensively. Hargreaves gave away 6, 7 fouls alone, and didn't close down at all, particularly for the Hungarian goal. True no keeper can save 35 yard wonder strikes, but close a player down = they can't shoot

He must have something on Sven
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I wouldnt give up on Hargreaves just yet . Any player good enough to play for Bayern must be doing something right Probabaly just needs a full ninety minutes to blend in effectively.
Carragher is a defender pure and simple and a very good one at that.Carrick excellent passer but cant tackle
Anyway Sven is going for 4:4:2

as for Cole and Campbell woefully short of match fitness
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Neville (hate this guy but there is no one else), Carra, JT, Cole
Beckham, Stevie, Fat Frank, JO Cole
Crouchy, MO

How anyone can pick the laboured "footballing center half" ferdinand is beyond me. At least with carra and JT your talking about 110% committed defending all game, both of them would die for the shirt, lazy rio would not at all.

Rest of the team pretty much picks itself, obviously Shrek up front with Mo if he is fit.
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