[themoid]

so Souness has run out of time and got the boot - wonder who the next poor sod will be who has to live up the expectations of a 'huge' club who haven't won bugger all for half a century

[booyaka]

No suprise really - Nice timing for Shearer to take over!!!

[neilo]

not really a shock , he hasnt done anything anywhere .I remember speaking to
Martin Tyler when Souness was incharge at Liverpool . Martin said the place was horrible to go to . Liverpool was like a family . Souness ruined that

[DJT75]

If they've got any sense they'll stick Shearer as caretaker player manager until the end of the season, no harm in doing so, no new manager on big bucks & they get a quick look at Shearer is a manager.

The squad they have they should be challenging the top spots, the team available to Souness was nowhere near that but was at least good enough to be in the top half of midtable..

Should sack their defence next.....

[Decadence]

has shearer got his coaching badges? if so it wouldn't be a bad idea...newcastle should be much better than they are...

[neilo]

Roeder and Shearer put in charge for next game

[DJT75]

Is that the same Glenn Roeder who guided West Ham to relegation from the Premiership???? good move Newcastle again

[Bristol Pete]

Anyone read the interview with Ruud Gullit citing Shearer as the root cause of all the problems at Newcastle? Evidently, there is one man bigger than the club, the fans etal and that is Shearer.

Pete.

[Geordie Jester]

I think this puts Shearer in such a win-win situation. If things go ok he just moves in as manager when he ends his career soon. .......... if Newc get relegated he moves in to "raise them from the ashes" like wot Keegan did like pet man hinny


.

More managers than a Dixons superstore

[KevD]

Dissapointed, I thought he was doing a great job
By that I mean I was looking foward to seeing Newcastle getting relegated

[Bristol Pete]

I think this puts Shearer in such a win-win situation. If things go ok he just moves in as manager when he ends his career soon. .......... if Newc get relegated he moves in to "raise them from the ashes" like wot Keegan did like pet man hinny

True. However, there is nothing to suggest that Shearer will make a decent manager. Loads of top quality players try and transcend the gap from player to manager and fail, whilst in reverse some average players make superb managers....

Pete.

[Geordie Jester]

Originally Posted by Captain Benefit

True. However, there is nothing to suggest that Shearer will make a decent manager. Loads of top quality players try and transcend the gap from player to manager and fail, whilst in reverse some average players make superb managers....

Pete.

yep thats true. I guess the only advantage he might have is that he has worked as a team captain for many many years and for England.... so I guess he has been second-fiddle to the manager a long time and would certainly have learnt a lot.

On the downside, he's not exactly Mr Enthusiasm. A team-talk by him could possibly put you to sleep !

And now the Geordie Chinese restaurants can release their new dish: Newcastle Chop Sui

[Bristol Pete]

We had a legend at Bristol City, an ex Newcastle pro in fact, named Brian Tinnion. loved by everyone at the club, was presented with the managers job and promptly ripped the heart and sole out of the club, selling all of our best players as he had personality issues with them. On his first day in charge he walked in and declared - 'i no longer wish to be known as tinman, from here on in I am the Gaffer.....' So, it can go terribly wrong as he went from hero to zero and was sacked after we were stuffed 7-1 at Swansea, last Sept.

Pete.

[booyaka]

Originally Posted by Dr Diversity

And now the Geordie Chinese restaurants can release their new dish: Newcastle Chop Sui

Only kidding!

Originally Posted by booyaka

Only kidding!

Least said, Souness ended

[Geordie Jester]

Originally Posted by Dr Diversity

Least said, Souness ended

please



stop now

[Geordie Jester]

How scary is this news article...

someone pranking/miss hearing/typing.

http://www.itv-football.co.uk/Story/...993809,00.html


'A club statement read: "Newcastle United today announced Glenn Hoddle will take charge of first team affairs for the immediate future. '

Nooooooooooo !!!

[overkill]

Originally Posted by Geordie Jester

How scary is this news article...

someone pranking/miss hearing/typing.

http://www.itv-football.co.uk/Story/...993809,00.html


'A club statement read: "Newcastle United today announced Glenn Hoddle will take charge of first team affairs for the immediate future. '

Nooooooooooo !!!

Oh yes! From the most noxious man in football (bar Robbie Savage and Deadly Doug) to the most 'saintly'. Oh please let it not be misquote and be true...............

[Ian J]

From what I know about Freddie Shepherd I think that George Graham would be the most suitable candidate for the job.

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by Captain Benefit

Anyone read the interview with Ruud Gullit citing Shearer as the root cause of all the problems at Newcastle? Evidently, there is one man bigger than the club, the fans etal and that is Shearer.

Pete.

Someone in the office was just telling me exactly this, wouldn't surprize me....

[overkill]

Originally Posted by DJT75

Someone in the office was just telling me exactly this, wouldn't surprize me....

Wouldn't be the first time a player has been 'bigger' than the club and caused no end of background problems.

One of the guys at works a (long suffering) Geordie and he muttered similiar things about Shearer. They seem to have a problem with criticising him.

[MR ETOME]

Souness is laughing all the way to the bank. He must be the richest unsuccessful manager in the world.

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by overkill

Wouldn't be the first time a player has been 'bigger' than the club and caused no end of background problems.

One of the guys at works a (long suffering) Geordie and he muttered similiar things about Shearer. They seem to have a problem with criticising him.

Went to see your boys last nite Mr Overkill (North Bank Upper), I won't go into any details cos you no doubt saw them all yourself & I won't gloat.

What's up with Sol though? Wenger's sort of implying he's not right in the head at the mo........apart from 2 howlers (which all pros do at least once in their lives), why not?

[Bristol Pete]

Shearer strikes me as being one of those people we have all probably worked with, teachers pet, the grass, snide.

[Lex]

I hope Shearer does go into management, at least then we wont have to put up with his stilted attempts at punditry!

[Bristol Pete]

As a newcastle fan, I'm glad to be shot of Souness, I wish Freddie was less dodgy and that Shearer had his coaching badges and had done three years management elsewhere.

I'm suprised at the anti-Newcastle feeling, esp since in the mid-late nineties we were popular as the everyones second favourite team. (not true but it was a pleasant notion).

The problems at Newcastle are much more deep-rooted than Souness or Shearer.

The "transition" period will last a lot longer yet. That we can cope with, with a few champions league places acheived now and again. But lower table? Just not on.

No idea who the next guy should be - but in all honesty, a Geordie would at least understand the obsessiveness of the fans, and perhaps be allowed longer than Souness to turn things around

.

Perhaps Souness did the job he was recruited for and solely getting rid of Bellamy may have made things better. Dyer and Bowyer were due to be shipped out to were they not?

As for a new manager, in my post earlier, Ruud simply stated that simply removing one or two problem players is not the answer as Shearer IS the problem but he is untouchable.

One good thing to come from Souness reign is that he has left a quality squad in place that the right man could work with. Martin O'Neill for example?

[overkill]

Originally Posted by DJT75

Went to see your boys last nite Mr Overkill (North Bank Upper), I won't go into any details cos you no doubt saw them all yourself & I won't gloat.

What's up with Sol though? Wenger's sort of implying he's not right in the head at the mo........apart from 2 howlers (which all pros do at least once in their lives), why not?

Don't go there! I should think, even with your lot's less than impressive results of late, that you must be feeling pretty darn confident right now!

I think Wengers right. Sols had problems ever since his his family tragedy, and he's not been the same player since. Even if he was 100% fit, his heads not totally on the game. He needs to get himself sorted out, or his career, which has more than few years left in it (he's only 31 which is nothing for a center half), will soon be over. Who'd touch him now?

Trouble is, who's better? Senderos? The guys comical - or he would be if he was playing for someone else. Cygan? The worst centre half ever seen at highbury? And that's up against some pretty stiff competition I can tell you!

A half fit, messed up, Campbell playing alongside Toure, is better than those two clowns.

[overkill]

Originally Posted by deanym

As a newcastle fan, I'm glad to be shot of Souness, I wish Freddie was less dodgy and that Shearer had his coaching badges and had done three years management elsewhere.

I'm suprised at the anti-Newcastle feeling, esp since in the mid-late nineties we were popular as the everyones second favourite team. (not true but it was a pleasant notion).

The problems at Newcastle are much more deep-rooted than Souness or Shearer.

The "transition" period will last a lot longer yet. That we can cope with, with a few champions league places acheived now and again. But lower table? Just not on.

No idea who the next guy should be - but in all honesty, a Geordie would at least understand the obsessiveness of the fans, and perhaps be allowed longer than Souness to turn things around.

TBh I used to like Newcastle myself. The Keegan days (player and manager) meant a lot of neutrals had a soft spot for them. The antics of Sheppard & co, Souness, and Shearer himself's unpunished thuggery have switched people off. The Bowyer, Dyer business was the last 'nasty taste in the mouth' incident for many people.

The club has huge support, a big history, but increasingly (like Sunderland) is thinking small.

Time for a new broom?

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by deanym

in all honesty, a Geordie would at least understand the obsessiveness of the fans, and perhaps be allowed longer than Souness to turn things around.

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