When was the last time Celtic had an international left back?

michaelT1888 · 01-02-2006, 12:28 PM

I cannot stand Gordon Strachan!! and to make me hate him more he refuses to buy a decent left back!! wot the hell is he signing Dion Dublin, he wasnt even good enough for celtic at 29 never mind 37!! We need a left back and have done for years!!!!

pringtef · 03-02-2006, 9:23 PM

Celtics last international left back was and is......Mo Camara (Guinea)!

michaelT1888 · 05-02-2006, 12:44 AM

lol you call him a well known international left-back? take it you have mental problems or something? i have season ticket at parkhead and have seen him regularly, he is the worst player to play for celtic in years and years

KevD · 05-02-2006, 1:19 AM

Well I am afraid I cant see Heinze, Cole, Maldini, Carlos going to Celtic

I think the best shot you have would be an Irish left back who happened to support Celtic as a kid, OShea probably not, you could try and rescue Harte from Spain, but I think I would take Camarra.
You should be delighted he turned down some huge clubs to sign for the Bhoys...Well Ipswich anyway

pringtef · 05-02-2006, 5:05 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelT1888

lol you call him a well known international left-back? take it you have mental problems or something? i have season ticket at parkhead and have seen him regularly, he is the worst player to play for celtic in years and years

Gave you an answer to "When was the last time Celtic had an international left back?", didn't say he's any good mind!

Adrenochrome · 05-02-2006, 9:51 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelT1888

lol you call him a well known international left-back? take it you have mental problems or something? i have season ticket at parkhead and have seen him regularly, he is the worst player to play for celtic in years and years

Some might say he is good enough for you

KevD · 05-02-2006, 10:05 PM

Runners Up Last Season and now Gordan Stracthan has got them 8 points clear at the top of the league at still not happy

michaelT1888 · 06-02-2006, 12:59 PM

In britain, only Man Utd are a bigger team than Celtic (and i dnt mean Celtic are the 2nd best team in britain just now). And dont you realise Celtic are regularly in the Champions League and would be this season if Gordoan Strachan wsnt the manager!! and Mo Camara isnt an international left-back, he cant get a gamefor guinea!! Dont forget 2 and a half years ago Celtic had quality players in every position and got to the Eufa Cup Final, and since then they have replaced quality players withe arseholes like No camara

KevD · 06-02-2006, 5:51 PM

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Dont forget 2 and a half years ago Celtic had quality players in every position and got to the Eufa Cup Final, and since then they have replaced quality players withe arseholes like No camara

TEAM FOR FINAL
Celtic: Douglas, Balde, Mjallby, Valgaeren (Laursen 64), Agathe, Lennon, Lambert (McNamara 76), Petrov (Maloney 104), Thompson, Sutton, Larsson.
Subs Not Used: Hedman, Sylla, Fernandez, Smith.

EVERY POSITION YOU SAY!!

michaelT1888 · 07-02-2006, 4:08 PM

ye we had at least one player in each position who was european class!! and to be honest wot the hell have Spurs achieved? Spurs will never be as big a club as celtic and will probably never win a european trophy

KevD · 07-02-2006, 5:56 PM

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and to be honest wot the hell have Spurs achieved? Spurs will never be as big a club as celtic and will probably never win a european trophy

Not really the point is it, you were talking about Celtic.

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ye we had at least one player in each position who was european class!!

Larsson is the only European class player in that team, Lambert was well passed his best at that stage.
Lennon, Petrov and possibly Sutton are just about Premiership class hence the reason Lennon only plaed for Leicester, Petrov attracts mild interest from middlesborough and Sutton is now playing for a bottom three club.
Thompson couldnt hack the premiership, Mjalby just about managed in Championship as is Douglas now and why McNamara is playing at Wolves.
Facts speak for themselves.

What makes a big club anyway? Money? Players? Fans? History?
Celtic have managed 3 Euro trophies, the same as spurs as it happens. I have to completely discount Celtics domestic history because its meaningless
Who have had the better players over the years??
Celtic perhaps have a bigger fanbase than most in Britain and Ireland because there are only two team in Glasgow (and alot of support is based purely on religion

)

Just a quick check, Euro Class - Yes Or No ?

Robinson YES
Boruc YES

Stalteri YES
Virgo PLEASE!!

King YES
Varga PLEASE!!

Dawson YES
Balde NO

Pyo YES
Camara PLEASE!!

Jenas YES
Malonely YES

Davids YES
Keane YES

Carrick YES
Lennon NO

Tanio YES
Petrov YES

Defoe YES
Hartson NO

Keane YES
Zurawski NO

michaelT1888 · 07-02-2006, 6:05 PM

lol ye i am agreeing!! i am disgusted with some of the new signings quality!! The board seem to have lost ambition!! and Celtic behind Man Utd have the biggest fanbase worldwide!! it just hurts to see West Ham who are a much smaller club than Celtic spend £7million on D.Ashton when celtics budget was £7million for the season!! Premiership clubs get £18million in TV money Celtic and Rangers get £1million!! and wot makes you think the current spurs team are Euro class? i mean its not as if Spurs are a European club! Although i do appreciate wot M.Jol is doing and i think you have a good team but it is frustrating for Celtic fans knowing that they are one of the biggest clubs in the world and they insisnt on the likes of Mo Camara, Paul Telfer and Dion Dublin!!!!

KevD · 07-02-2006, 7:32 PM

If you can tell me a member of that Spurs team isnt Eurp class, I'll be suprised. 10 of them (Robbo, Stalteri, Pyo, Davids, Tanio & Keane, I also didnt mention Mido, Naybet and Murphy and Ghally!!) have a good few years Champs Lge experience, and I dont mean the 8th Pre Qualifying Eliminator round against Plovdiv, I mean Knockout stage experience.
Add to those King, Defoe, Jenas, Carrick all Senior England International and England U21 regulars Dawson who is an outstanding defender, Lennon, Rotledge and Huddlestone.
That my friend, with the addition a few big summer signings and the other solid back up players we at the club (Ziegler, Kelly, Gardener, Reid, Davenport, Cerny - Again all regular Internationals) IS A EURO CLASS SQUAD WITH A EURO CLASS TEAM, WHOEVER IS PICKED

michaelT1888 · 07-02-2006, 8:26 PM

Ye you have a good team just now but they heavily lack euro experience!! that spurs team is good but i am afraid it isnt as good as past Celtic teams when the club actually spent money!!!

Joe Fernand · 08-02-2006, 12:48 PM

michaelT1888

No matter who is in charge of selecting the team and new players I guess we have to get used to the idea that our revenue simply wont support the type of players we'd like to see at Celtic Park!

Your not alone in not being convinced that GS is the best man for the job - mind you MON dint convince everyone all of the time either!!!

Football and financial reality don't seem to go hand in hand (I wonder if it ever did) - were going to have to take a bit of pain until a predominantly Home grown team come though.

I'm with you on some of the recent signings and wonder why were 'wasting' good money on old codgers - its never worked for us in the past and I cant see it working now; mind you the likes of Ian Wright would probably argue that it worked out just fine!!!

Best regards

Joe

foghorn · 08-02-2006, 10:05 PM

KevD,

I would disagree with your judgement of Maciej Żurawski.

His recent record.

2001-2002 - Wisła Kraków: 27 games, 21 goals
2002-2003 - Wisła Kraków: 28 games, 22 goals
2003-2004 - Wisła Kraków: 26 games, 20 goals
2004-2005 - Wisła Kraków: 25 games, 24 goals

For Poland, Żurawski has appeared 48 times and scored 15 goals, may even add to this at this years World Cup.

Foghorn

michaelT1888 · 09-02-2006, 11:40 AM

ye Kev you also said Alan Thompson couldnt hack the premiership!! but he could hack putting liverpool out of the eufa cup, he could hack scoring to beat barca, could hack scoring against Bayern munich and also against stuttgart!! you talk ****, and the cahmpions league is of a higher standard of the premiership so alan thompson could 'hack' scoring against top teams in the champions league and performing well but not the premiership? wotever

KevD · 09-02-2006, 12:26 PM

, your getting a touch sensitive about it.
Thompson is not European class of player. I shall leave it that.

michaelT1888 · 09-02-2006, 3:36 PM

ye thats why he doesnt get a game anymore but two years ago he was playing fantastic against europes best clubs!! name a player who plays for a spurs team and recently scored a goal to knock barca out of european football and to score and assist goals against other top european sides!!

Johnny Thunder · 09-02-2006, 5:27 PM

Davids.

KevD · 09-02-2006, 6:20 PM

Two years ago he was playing fantastic yes, and he scored against those teams, Well done but I stand by what I say.
You seem to take my points as trying to dirade Celtic, they are not, In fact i follow Celtic in terms of Scottish football (My dads a lifelong fan!). My point is these players in the team now are not good enough for the group stage of the CL or for the knockout stage of UC and as a result Celtic cannot attract big players. The team two years ago done well in the UEFA cup, which isnt difficult!, with an average team + Henrik Larrson.
This thread was started asking why you havent got a Top Left Back and I simply pointed out Celtic are not a big enough draw (Case in point seen as we are talking about Spurs - Pedro Mendes chose Pourtsmouth over Celtic!!), ask yorself which top internationals would join Celtic, even if the board were prepared to pay the fee or the wages.
I also tried to point out that being 8 points clear in your leauge that its a bit harsh to knock Strachan, he is tied by the board, he can only bring in people like Dublin.
Just to point out, you brought spurs up. I only refered to Celtic in my post before that and that I believed you had a far from team of Euro quality in every position (Which I still hold to).
Enjoy being top of your league and hopefully you'll get your new left back in the Summer. Then I will look foward to seeing a Celtic team with quality in EVERY POSITION for the first time in MANY YEARS

michaelT1888 · 10-02-2006, 12:26 AM

Celtic were not in for Pedro Mendes!! his agent approached Celtic!! After two of your points above i stopped reading!! and David has not scored or played well for Spurs in europe!! juventus mabybe but not for spurs! i cant even remember the last time spurs were in europe!! if you have followed celtic in the last couple of years and you think the team was average when they got to the eufa cup final thenquite frankly you know **** all about football!! Just look at the teams they put out!!! an average team + henrik larsson! you are an ignorant prick who thinks they can talk about european football and top players just because spurs are 4rt in the Premiership!!

You have no idea about Celtic, their fans, background or history!!

KevD · 10-02-2006, 12:43 AM

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Celtic were not in for Pedro Mendes!! his agent approached Celtic!! After two of your points above i stopped reading!! and David has not scored or played well for Spurs in europe!! juventus mabybe but not for spurs! i cant even remember the last time spurs were in europe!! if you have followed celtic in the last couple of years and you think the team was average when they got to the eufa cup final thenquite frankly you know **** all about football!! Just look at the teams they put out!!! an average team + henrik larsson! you are an ignorant prick who thinks they can talk about european football and top players just because spurs are 4rt in the Premiership!!

You have no idea about Celtic, their fans, background or history!!

I didnt bring up Davids.
I never brought up Tottenham, you did.
I never said I had followed Celtic for 2 years, more like 15 and have seen many better teams than the last few years.
It would seem I know alot more about football than you seen as the original post was about Celtic, thats all I was talking about. You have felt the need to get all aggro about it.
Oh, and 1999 was the last time Spurs were in Europe.
May aswell close this thread if the OP doesnt want to discuss his query about Celtic without throwing his toys out

Ian J · 10-02-2006, 7:08 AM

michaelT - you can have a rest from forum footie for a couple of weeks whilst you reflect on how to debate without resorting to personal insults.

michaelT1888 · 24-02-2006, 10:11 PM

cant believed you banned me for two weeks for having a conversation!! lol you must feel all powerful and important cos you can ban people from forums!!!

Mylo · 24-02-2006, 10:12 PM

I really wouldn't carry on with that attitude

Ian J · 24-02-2006, 10:47 PM

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you must feel all powerful and important cos you can ban people from forums!!!

I do and I'm feeling all powerful and important again

Adrenochrome · 25-02-2006, 8:27 PM

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I do and I'm feeling all powerful and important again

Please hurry up

pringtef · 25-02-2006, 8:59 PM

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Please hurry up

I get the impression wee Micky's hurting real bad at the moment.....

Must be so depressing having to watch The Bill midweek instead of his team playing in the last 16 of the Champions League....

michaelT1888 · 27-02-2006, 10:23 PM

I aint wee!! and i get the impression Celtic will win the league and Rangers will win absolutely nothing this season.