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Old 24-01-2006, 11:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanks Sven,the fans appreciated you,even if the press or the FA didn't.

Sven,the best England manager for years and he's forced to leave his job because of the scumbag press and spineless FA.
Good luck in the summer and thanks for a great 5 years.You deserved better.

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Old 24-01-2006, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Must have been asleep when we lifted those trophies. What amazing performances we achieved in those tournaments.

This should probably be in the sports forum
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Old 24-01-2006, 11:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sven,the best England manager for years and he's forced to leave his job because of the scumbag press and spineless FA.
Good luck in the summer and thanks for a great 5 years.You deserved better.

What drugs you on m8?
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Old 24-01-2006, 11:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Sven,the best England manager for years and he's forced to leave his job because of the scumbag press and spineless FA.
Good luck in the summer and thanks for a great 5 years.You deserved better.

er........did i sleep through England winning a competition or regularly beating quality opposition?
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Old 24-01-2006, 11:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Must have been asleep when we lifted those trophies.
Compared to Keegan,Hoddle,Venables and Taylor you mean?
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Old 24-01-2006, 11:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Compared to Keegan,Hoddle,Venables and Taylor you mean?
But Sven has got a vast array of talent to choose from, perhaps the best out of the 5 managers listed here!
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Old 24-01-2006, 11:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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But Sven has got a vast array of talent to choose from, perhaps the best out of the 5 managers listed here!
I know what you mean,Keegan had ***** like Beckham,Owen,andSchloes to contend with whereas Sven has.......oh,wait a minute.
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Old 25-01-2006, 12:06 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I agree that he has done a good job... When he took over the England job EVERYBODY was saying that we should forget Japan/Korea (because the team was in such a poor state) and concentrate on Portugal, the fact he got us to Japan was beyond expectation, and he also gave us the pleasure of beating Germany and Argentina along the way.
He then did exaclty as expected and got us qualified comfortably for Portugal. Admittedly we could have done better there, but losing in the knock out stages on Penalties is not a huge disgrace is it?
Next he qualified us for Germany 2006... what exactly has he done that is so awful?
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Old 25-01-2006, 12:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree that he has done a good job... When he took over the England job EVERYBODY was saying that we should forget Japan/Korea (because the team was in such a poor state) and concentrate on Portugal, the fact he got us to Japan was beyond expectation, and he also gave us the pleasure of beating Germany and Argentina along the way.
He then did exaclty as expected and got us qualified comfortably for Portugal. Admittedly we could have done better there, but losing in the knock out stages on Penalties is not a huge disgrace is it?
Next he qualified us for Germany 2006... what exactly has he done that is so awful?
Could it be that England played awful football, and really only defeated teams that we should beat, so, so what? Even then under Ericsson, not exactly in style, and even in the 2002 qualifiers he managed to mis-manage to the point that even after drubbing Germany, we still had to rely on a free kick that shouldn't have been given to qualify at all! Then off to the Far East, a fairly easy set of qualifiers, a reasonable 1st knock out game, then despite the warnings that he was carrying too many losers (Heskey ring any bells?) he displayed the tactical ineptitude he was to become famous for, in the one hard game he faced, and promptly saw his team get played off the park. Great.

He then failed to ever use friendlies to good effect, got to the S/F at a EURO 2004 so weak that Greece won it, and again displayed poor judgement when it counted, ie in losing to an average Portugal. Cue the press trying to get rid of him............

Then on to the less than convincing performances in this World cup qualifying series, in a group so poor that the likes of Ramsey, Revie, Robson and Hoddle would have been green with envy, and which included a dismal defeat at "how many years was it since you won?" NI and you can see why people are a little sceptical at his 'great record'.

As has been said before, England haven't progressed one millimetre under Ericsson - with a reasonable group of players.

If we win the World cup then I'm prepared to forgive just about anything, but frankly, I will getting out the worry beads early on this time..............
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Old 25-01-2006, 1:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think the OP is really Scottish.
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Old 25-01-2006, 1:28 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think right now we have the best england team ever ON PAPER but on the pitch a different story. I just hope we can win it, it's not like we dont have the players too there top flight world class players (apprantly)
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Old 25-01-2006, 9:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say england have regulary lost to opposition either ,i like eriksson ,if you read his book it gives you a better incite into how he likes to work with the players ,and is whole take on the game of football .
Like all good managers ,he shows faith in his players ,thats why he plays james,heskey, and most other members of his squad even though they have only played to there full potential a couple of times .

There in lies the secret to winning the world cup ,brazil know there the best the team in the world ,the germans are also very confident,the italians very tactical and defensive.

England on the other hand play with too much fear ,which eriksson has tried to eradicate ,hence beating teams like germany,and argentina in crucial games ,when under other managers england would have collapsed and froze .

But i believe england do have a team capable of winning the world cup ,lets face it ,owen is world class,lampard is a complete midfielder,as is gerrrard ,and rooney is potentialy the best english footballer wev'e ever had .
And eriksson is the man in charge and gets my vote to stay that way.

Er bit of a rant ,but i do get a bit passionate about football lol.
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I'm glad someones sticking up for Sven who whose win / lose ratio is better than mostof the previous incumbents Getting us into the last WC was a notable achievement when it looked a lost cause and putting 5 past the Huns felt great.
People in this country expect miracles though and think we have some sort of divine right to win tournaments forgetting that the pressure put on the major competitors especially Brazil is every bit as great if not greater. Creating the right conditions and developing the right calibre of player is absolutely essential for success , but in itself only increases the chances of doing so.Constantly changing managers doesnt do very much at all. Given the amount of access Sven has had to his squad and the paucity of freindlies ( not to mention the pressure from the press)I think he has done oK. I f he gets us into the semis I shall be satisfied anything more would be a bonus.
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Old 25-01-2006, 10:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I just love the idea that none of this Sven's fault; it's all down to those dastardly swines in "the gutter press"
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Old 25-01-2006, 10:59 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I wouldn't say england have regulary lost to opposition either ,i like eriksson ,if you read his book it gives you a better incite into how he likes to work with the players ,and is whole take on the game of football .
Like all good managers ,he shows faith in his players ,thats why he plays james,heskey, and most other members of his squad even though they have only played to there full potential a couple of times .

There in lies the secret to winning the world cup ,brazil know there the best the team in the world ,the germans are also very confident,the italians very tactical and defensive.

England on the other hand play with too much fear ,which eriksson has tried to eradicate ,hence beating teams like germany,and argentina in crucial games ,when under other managers england would have collapsed and froze .

But i believe england do have a team capable of winning the world cup ,lets face it ,owen is world class,lampard is a complete midfielder,as is gerrrard ,and rooney is potentialy the best english footballer wev'e ever had .
And eriksson is the man in charge and gets my vote to stay that way.

Er bit of a rant ,but i do get a bit passionate about football lol.
Nice post.I've read his book too and its an excellent insight into how he operates.If he does well in Germany he'll have one of the best records as England manager and he can leave head held high.

Question:If Sam allardyce is so talented why didn't Liverpool or Chelsea try and get him in recent years?
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