[neilo]

So hes going
Overkill , your country needs you lol

But seriously anyone but Mclaren

[la gran siete]

Scolari to take over?

[Sick Boy]

He's going

An English manager please. Cue the verbal abuse. Don't care If a foreign manager would be a better choice, they would not be accepted so they are on the back foot already.

[Lex]

Alan Curbishley

[Henry]

Hiddink please!

Not McLaren and not Allardyce.

Sir Clive Woodward must fancy himself for the job

[Steven]

End of an era .... the guy just never had a plan B. Can't people understand that?! Keegan had the same team bar Rooney, Sven's done no more than asked of him. England are one of the favourites; thats much to do with Sven as Rooney

So Curbishley & Allardyce - no, needs to prove it in Europe.
McClaren - no "These kids are the future of Middlesborough Football Club", McClaren after Arsenal 7 Middlesborough 0

I honestly believe Hitzfeld, O'Neil or Hiddink would be the way to go; if O'Neil's personal circumstances allow it, and the xenophobia of the tabloids stop

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by LFC_SL

Keegan had the same team bar Rooney, Sven's done no more than asked of him. England are one of the favourites; thats much to do with Sven as Rooney

A couple of years ago Crystal Palace were in the relegation zone of Division One at Christmas when they sacked their manager and replaced him with Iain Dowie. As people may recall they were promoted to the Premiership that year using the same squad of players that the previous manager had nearly relegated.

It is fatuous to suggest that England are one of the favourites and have their best chance of winning in forty years despite having a poor manager and it's typical of the Brits to try their hardest to destabilise the efforts instead of getting behind the manager and the team.

[gooner#14]

PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!! PSYCHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! all the heart but has he the experiance

[JohnG]

I agree about Svens lack of Plan B ideas. When the Portuguese deliberately crippled Rooney in Euro 2004 Sven had no idea how to change things around and stuck to the same game. I'd love to see a more attacking minded manager as I strongly believe that we could still have won that game in Euro 2004 if we'd had got at them (they don't like it up 'em you know!). The same goes for the game against Brazil in the World Cup, we didn't rattle them enough in the 2nd half.

[Orson]

I'm another who's not a fan of Sven. He seems to have done nothing to inspire the team, which can virtually pick itself. The coaching/team building seems none existant, and he now seems to be 'bigger' than the England team. I'd have him out now, never mind waiting until the World Cup.

To replace him though... Jose too expensive, Allardyce & Curbishley possibly too inexperienced, McClaren seems to have lost the plot a bit lately. I'd consider Wenger, but he's a bit of a Sven clone.

As an Englishman who wants the best for England, I'd have Martin O'Neil, if available, failing that, take a chance on Sam Allardyce.

[JohnG]

I do think that Sven should have been made to go now and we should have someone else to inpsire the players to win the World Cup. I think we have one of the best squads we have ever had and Sven will waste our best chance of winning the big one.

[la gran siete]

Although it owuld be nioce if an English manager did take over , none of the current lot are good enough. The fact that the top 5 English clubs dont ave one speaks for itself. The likes of Curbishley should be managing an Aresenal or Chelsea and be successful before being considered for the top job. Its also got to be someone with several layers of skin who can brush off intrusive media attention and ridiculous expectations heaped on by the general public.

[Nebby]

Peter Taylor for me.

He did a fantastic job with the under 21's, right up until that idiot Howard Wilkinson decided he could do a better job and sacked him, and is doing a good job with them again, now that he's back in the role. He knows the present crop of young first team players from his original stint with the U21s, plus he also knows the boys that are coming through the ranks now and will form the spine of the team over the next few years.

After all of the hoopla the FA have had to put up with Sven, he might be a nice, steady and safe appointment.

[la gran siete]

Personally I have no probs with Sven staying until after the WC. His win / lose ratio is better than most of his predecessors, he got us into the last WC much against the odds and he got our lads to put 5 past Germany on German soil ,an occasion which I shall never forget. It felt almost as good as the 1966 final.So I say let him get on with the job, hope for the best but dont heap ridiculous expectations either on him or the squad.

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by Nebby

Peter Taylor for me.

He did a fantastic job with the under 21's, right up until that idiot Howard Wilkinson decided he could do a better job and sacked him, and is doing a good job with them again, now that he's back in the role. He knows the present crop of young first team players from his original stint with the U21s, plus he also knows the boys that are coming through the ranks now and will form the spine of the team over the next few years.

After all of the hoopla the FA have had to put up with Sven, he might be a nice, steady and safe appointment.

I like Peter Taylor as well . He would be my choice if the position had toi be filled by an Englishman.
Personlly I'd have a Scolari or Gus Hddink with Taylor as number 2 being groomed to take over

[DJT75]

Englishmen
McClaren - has virtually relegated an expensive team this season so no thanks.
Alladyce - would turn us into the dullest big boot up the field team in history.
Curbishly - is about the best of the bunch but blows hot & cold, not sure he's up to international standard & has no European experience.

Other nations aren't afraid to bring in ex-players who've been there recently & done it, I would have no problem with Stuart Pearce but he's not gonna take it in a million years. What's wrong with Alan Shearer? He's got more international experience than all of the others mentioned put together, he knows all about tournaments & qualifying, he knows how to handle the media & would stay on the back pages. Germany do it, Holland do it, even Ireland are doing it so I think maybe we should...I really don't see how you have to have a load of club management to succeed at international level, they're completely different jobs + Shearer has been around big clubs & the England scene for the last 17+ years....he's worked under some of the best managers around so he's pretty much learnt his trade - Venables, Bobby Robson, Dalglish.....people that have been places & won things (Venables aside but we all know he's a great coach)...If Dalglish can win the double in his 1st season as a player-manager, leave & win the premiership with Blackburn with absolutely no management experience then I'm sure Shearer can do as gooda job as anyone else in the England role.....& let's face it, his playing days are over.....

[neilios]

Thats actually a very good idea dj .

I personally dont have a problem with sven either ,but its the players who have to believe they are good enough to win the world cup .

Ive always thought england play better when they go out and attack teams especially now with the amount of potential goal scorers we know have in the squad.

Its just a pity both hoddle and venables were caught out by the media and there own indiscretions ,both managers who were astute tactically ,and venables certainly knew how to build up a good team spirit ,hoddle less so but he didn't put up with any childish nonsense.

I just don't think curbishly has the presence of an international coach .

All we can do is get behind the england team and sven ,i personally cant wait for the tournemant to get started .

[blackrod]

Big Sam is actually one of the most tactically astute managers in the Prem. He also adopts a very scientific and forward-thinking approach to each individual game depending on the team he faces and the players he has available.
Many have jumped on the 'ugly football' bandwaggon when they haven't even seen more than a few clips on MOTD. The facts are that he doesn't have the money available to buy a 'Henry' or 'Ronaldo' (or any player requiring a fee to be honest!) so he gets the best results from the players at his disposal. If he can work with a squad of excellent players is unknown but can the FA persuade a top manager to leave his club and work with England?


So if we stick with English managers...

Big Sam - I hope not for my teams sake. Unknown if he will make the step up.
Curbs - Top manager but again unknown if he will make the step up.
McClaren - We want a decent manager don't we?
Pearce - Top bloke but far too inexperienced, one for the future.
Taylor - You having a laugh!? Tactically inept at club level football.


Hmmm... another foreigner?

[scrapbook]

I have the feeling that Big Sam only knows one way to play - I don't buy the argument that his teams play that way because he doesn't have the money to buy Henry or Ronaldo.

Did you watch West Ham last night? The quality of their football was outstanding and I would suggest with players that are inferior to those employed by Bolton.

Anway, for me it has to be a foreigner backed up with some English coaching talent. There has never been anything wrong in hiring a foreigner, it was just with Sven it was clear after the last Euros that he was not as good as his reputation would have you believe.

[la gran siete]

Scolari could feasibly get our lads to play Zamba football with panache ,elan and daring do

[blackrod]

I did see some of the game last night but I was in a channel flicking mood. West Ham were pretty good in the first half but not outstanding by any means. Well taken goals though. Fulham will consider themselves unlucky not to come away with at least a point and was on top for the majority of the 2nd half.

Anyway back to Sven, he isn't the master tactician were were led to believe and really isn't that good a coach so who should we get in?

Would Jose leave Chelsea?

[lee789]

Very strange decision months before a World Cup final, I always thought that they'd stick with him because of the £5m left on his contract.

It can't do anyone any favours going into a world up with a manager on his bike. Players will undoubtedly be affected.

I believe we need an Englishman in charge to really get the motivation levels up, put fire in the lads bellies and make sure their proud to be representing their country. I just feel that a foreign manager can't do these things as effectivley and with credibility.

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by lee789

Very strange decision months before a World Cup final, I always thought that they'd stick with him because of the £5m left on his contract.

It can't do anyone any favours going into a world up with a manager on his bike. Players will undoubtedly be affected.

I believe we need an Englishman in charge to really get the motivation levels up, put fire in the lads bellies and make sure their proud to be representing their country. I just feel that a foreign manager can't do these things as effectivley and with credibility.

Keegan had all the motivation under the sun and look what happened to him, If Wenger or Mourinho can motiavte their respective team then I dont see why a foreigner canmt do the same with England. In any case professionals shouldtn need motivating.Maybe an English number two can do that and let Hiddink or Scolari be the master tactician. I'd like to see England play with a lot more freedom using their skills tpo the utmost. Even if they didnt win the performance would be glorious.

[lee789]

Keegan may have been an inspiration due to his playing days but I'm not sure he was greatly motivational like a Ferguson, Clough, Allardice or Mourhino.

Wengers squad is practically french anyway so he's no example of coaching foreigners .

Mourhinho (still can't spell) succeeds by creating an us and them attitude in the camp (as did/does ferguson and others). This works at club level but at a national level I can't see how it does, when Sven immediatley through birth becomes one of them.

[neilios]

Which english manager would want the job anyway ,inept FA ,interfering newspapers and media .

The media have managed to undermine every manager england have ever had .
Bobby robson -too bumbling
Graham taylor- long ball turnip ed
Venables- too smooth
Hoddle- faith healing ,arrogrant
Kevin keegan - too sensitive
Sven - too laidback for some ,and a serial shagger lol.

What about ferguson ,a sure fire way to get rid of beckham at least .

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by lee789

[SIZE=2]It can't do anyone any favours going into a world up with a manager on his bike. Players will undoubtedly be affected.

I actually think it'll help. The press will pretty much be forced to leave him alone cos they've got want they want already. He knows he's leaving so he won't be affected, the players know it's their last chance under him & would like to go out on a high (as if they already don't)...I think it's taken the press pressure off & we can concentrate on football & football alone leading up to & during the tournament..

[DJT75]

Originally Posted by neilios

What about ferguson ,a sure fire way to get rid of beckham at least .

Now that is something I am looking forward to, a new manager with new ideas that don't necessarily involve David Beckham in the starting 11!!

[psp_king]

david beckham deserves to be in england 11. who can take his place? shaun wright phillips, a regular in chelsea reserves? dont think so, those who watch spanish football know that the work aspect of senior beckham is top notch, so go on who replaces beckham?

[overkill]

Originally Posted by DJT75

I actually think it'll help. The press will pretty much be forced to leave him alone cos they've got want they want already. He knows he's leaving so he won't be affected, the players know it's their last chance under him & would like to go out on a high (as if they already don't)...I think it's taken the press pressure off & we can concentrate on football & football alone leading up to & during the tournament..

Agreed. For once an England manager can just get on with the job as he's already gone once it's over. However, as anyone who's worked a 'long notice' will know, it's hard to get yourself motivated - beyond pride in your work. If we start well and keep winning things will go ok, but, if we start poorly he will be tempted to think "oh well, **** it, I'm out anyway in a few weeks". The latter is the big danger of announcing this now.

Robsons best tournament was 90', after he announced he would be quitting afterwards, so here's hoping........

Taking up Neilos comments, I would have to agree. While most of those managers have driven me up the wall, bar Venables who at least was successfull without playing garbage football, or relying on fluky results, but they do make a rod for Englands back by looking to make the managers lives difficult. It's as if they don't want England to succeed.