Boxing Discussion thread spoilers (part 2)

jabintendo · 03-07-2011, 4:16 PM

Didn't pacquio say that doing those tests so close to the fight would weaken him?

I agree with you Iccz, Mayweather just trying to make it akward and stall the fight for as long as he can.
I only hope that they do fight eachother, which doesn't seem likely this year

**Iccz** · 03-07-2011, 4:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jabintendo

Didn't pacquio say that doing those tests so close to the fight would weaken him?

I agree with you Iccz, Mayweather just trying to make it akward and stall the fight for as long as he can.
I only hope that they do fight eachother, which doesn't seem likely this year

He did, but it's nonsense, the fact is Pac hates needles and doesn't want to take a test he doesn't need to. Can't blame him at all.
I'd love to see the fight, but I can't see it happening

ganga · 03-07-2011, 4:34 PM

If taking the test near to the fight would weaken Pacquio, I can perfectly understand why he doesn't want to take the test. However if it is harmless than i believe that Pacquio should just be the better man and do it, to make the fight.

jabintendo · 03-07-2011, 4:40 PM

I saw the promo for the Amir Kahn fight against Zab, at the end of the month.

I reckon there is more chance of him facing Mayweather than Pacquio

**Iccz** · 03-07-2011, 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ganga

If taking the test near to the fight would weaken Pacquio, I can perfectly understand why he doesn't want to take the test. However if it is harmless than i believe that Pacquio should just be the better man and do it, to make the fight.

I agree, but only to a degree, at the same time I think, why should Pac have to do a test that is not required, just because Mayweather knows he hates needles and will suffer the mental effects of it and the interruptions it would cause to his training schedule.

If the test is after the fight I see no issue. But at any point in the training period then it's a problem - it could bruise up badly which would naturally cause a problem for training/sparring.

Tetlee · 03-07-2011, 7:32 PM

Totally agree with Iccz, Mayweather has never been a real risk taker and a fight with Pacquio right now would be the biggest of his career, he just doesn't fancy it so came up with an excuse as only he knows how.

Funny how nobody else seems concerned(in that regard at least) about fighting Pacquio

As already suggested, it's mind games, he wants to put Pac off the fight and that's what he's doing for as long as he can. I bet if Pacquio hit a slow & steady decline Mayweather would be much more interested, and the exclusive drug test demand would suddenly be magically resolved.

I think this is a fight that could happen, but only if the risk factor largely drops within the next 2 or 3 years(ie. Pacman slows down).

JohnnyBravo1000 · 03-07-2011, 8:00 PM

I'd take on Pacman and Mayweather at the same time if I didn't have this dodgy toe!

GBDG1 · 03-07-2011, 10:26 PM

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Funny how nobody else seems concerned(in that regard at least) about fighting Pacquio

To be fair, I'd lose 80lb and take a beating for the pay day you get for a few rounds with pacman!

JohnnyBravo1000 · 07-07-2011, 12:26 PM

Ricky Hatton is finally retiring "officially". I doubt it will come as a surprise to any of us.

**Iccz** · 07-07-2011, 12:29 PM

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Ricky Hatton is finally retiring "officially". I doubt it will come as a surprise to any of us.

Thought he would have gone for Wlad or Vitali first... he's the right weight for them!

JohnnyBravo1000 · 07-07-2011, 1:07 PM

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Thought he would have gone for Wlad or Vitali first... he's the right weight for them!

So true!

It's common knowledge that he struggles with his weight but it's sad to see him in some pictures!

IL Cattivo · 07-07-2011, 3:39 PM

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Ricky Hatton is finally retiring "officially". I doubt it will come as a surprise to any of us.

His local greasy spoon cafe will be overjoyed... Cherching!

THE AMATUER · 14-07-2011, 8:10 PM

Hi all, for those who don't know I Just found a new boxing channel on Sky called Box Nation (Channel 456). Looks like its run by Frank Warren and seems to show old cards, looks pretty good for a freebie channel

redcat1 · 14-07-2011, 8:58 PM

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Hi all, for those who don't know I Just found a new boxing channel on Sky called Box Nation (Channel 456). Looks like its run by Frank Warren and seems to show old cards, looks pretty good for a freebie channel

Thanks, just added to my favourites. Saturday's boxing on sky looks tasty. John Murray v Kevin Mitchell and Ricky Burns v Nicky Cook

Tetlee · 14-07-2011, 11:01 PM

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Thanks, just added to my favourites. Saturday's boxing on sky looks tasty. John Murray v Kevin Mitchell and Ricky Burns v Nicky Cook

Saturday is looking like a great night of boxing, don't forget Tony Bellew v Ovill McKenzie II aswell. Now if only that whole evening was being shown on this new free channel I'd be well chuffed, sadly will be the usual case of dodgy stream sites for me

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 9:48 AM

Did anyone see the Wolak - Rodriguez fight? Fantastic contest, neither gave an inch to the other. Have a look at Wolak's eye:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/662050/347384316.jpg

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 9:10 PM

Tony Bellew fighting now, should be a good one this.

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 10:05 PM

Or maybe not

wezzywebb · 16-07-2011, 10:08 PM

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Or maybe not

yeah its pretty poor,thank god we have burns-cook and murray -mitchell to look forward to

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 10:24 PM

Agreed.
Bellew did enough, but i expected much more from him.
Boxing to orders, as he admitted, and got the job done, but it didn't make for a decent fight.
I'm not going to sat this will be better for fear of jinxing it

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 10:28 PM

Erm....

wezzywebb · 16-07-2011, 10:36 PM

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Erm....

im watching it with a bit of delay ,lol what a farce,bet warren is pullin his hair out

mhorton · 16-07-2011, 10:47 PM

Went to get a coffee, when I came back it was all over. Feel sorry for the guy. Next one should be good.

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 11:07 PM

Better.....

bigtruck · 16-07-2011, 11:30 PM

Well done Kevin Mitchell. Enjoyable fight that.

wezzywebb · 16-07-2011, 11:43 PM

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Well done Kevin Mitchell. Enjoyable fight that.

agreed ,good fight

Tetlee · 17-07-2011, 12:22 PM

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Well done Kevin Mitchell. Enjoyable fight that.

Just been catching up on last nights boxing, undercards were surprisingly poor, but thankfully the Mitchell v Murray fight was a cracker!

Fair play to Mitchell, great come back from his defeat to Katsidis and looked really sharp through most of the fight, lovely upercuts and great movement, came back from some pretty big punches too where it looked like it might have been goodnight.

Always enjoy a good tear-up but happy to see Mitchell win that one as certainly looked the better boxer, Murray wasted way too much punching air I thought.

DrWise · 18-07-2011, 11:13 AM

the whole mayweather and pacquiao fight, in my eyes it will happen, but to me its bob arum stalling it, not the fighters, i'm just waiting for mayweather vs ortiz going to be a quality fight

and possibly the rematch with Cotto and Margarito

redcat1 · 20-07-2011, 8:57 PM

BBC Sport - Amir Khan aims to prove he is Britain's best boxer

Haha, carl froch all the way

Tetlee · 21-07-2011, 6:17 PM

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BBC Sport - Amir Khan aims to prove he is Britain's best boxer

Haha, carl froch all the way

Indeed, and speaking of which, the date is set for Froch v Ward

BBC Sport - Carl Froch to fight Andre Ward on 29 October

29th of October, now that's one fight I will be paying for

03-07-2011, 4:16 PM	#151
jabintendo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Thanks: Gave 23, Got 223 Posts: 2,032	Advertisement Want to Advertise? Didn't pacquio say that doing those tests so close to the fight would weaken him? I agree with you Iccz, Mayweather just trying to make it akward and stall the fight for as long as he can. I only hope that they do fight eachother, which doesn't seem likely this year

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bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Did anyone see the Wolak - Rodriguez fight? Fantastic contest, neither gave an inch to the other. Have a look at Wolak's eye: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/662050/347384316.jpg Last edited by John; 16-07-2011 at 5:22 PM. Reason: please dont hotlink images

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03-07-2011, 4:34 PM	#153
ganga Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Thanks: Gave 724, Got 23 Posts: 412	If taking the test near to the fight would weaken Pacquio, I can perfectly understand why he doesn't want to take the test. However if it is harmless than i believe that Pacquio should just be the better man and do it, to make the fight.

03-07-2011, 4:40 PM	#154
jabintendo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London Thanks: Gave 23, Got 223 Posts: 2,032	I saw the promo for the Amir Kahn fight against Zab, at the end of the month. I reckon there is more chance of him facing Mayweather than Pacquio

03-07-2011, 7:32 PM	#156
Tetlee Illustrious Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Taunton Thanks: Gave 1,569, Got 2,163 Posts: 16,023	Totally agree with Iccz, Mayweather has never been a real risk taker and a fight with Pacquio right now would be the biggest of his career, he just doesn't fancy it so came up with an excuse as only he knows how. Funny how nobody else seems concerned(in that regard at least) about fighting Pacquio As already suggested, it's mind games, he wants to put Pac off the fight and that's what he's doing for as long as he can. I bet if Pacquio hit a slow & steady decline Mayweather would be much more interested, and the exclusive drug test demand would suddenly be magically resolved. I think this is a fight that could happen, but only if the risk factor largely drops within the next 2 or 3 years(ie. Pacman slows down).

03-07-2011, 8:00 PM	#157
JohnnyBravo1000 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton Thanks: Gave 17, Got 85 Posts: 1,068	I'd take on Pacman and Mayweather at the same time if I didn't have this dodgy toe!

07-07-2011, 12:26 PM	#159
JohnnyBravo1000 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Luton Thanks: Gave 17, Got 85 Posts: 1,068	Ricky Hatton is finally retiring "officially". I doubt it will come as a surprise to any of us.

14-07-2011, 8:10 PM	#163
THE AMATUER Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Thanks: Gave 162, Got 199 Posts: 2,565	Hi all, for those who don't know I Just found a new boxing channel on Sky called Box Nation (Channel 456). Looks like its run by Frank Warren and seems to show old cards, looks pretty good for a freebie channel

16-07-2011, 9:10 PM	#167
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Tony Bellew fighting now, should be a good one this.

16-07-2011, 10:05 PM	#168
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Or maybe not

16-07-2011, 10:24 PM	#170
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Agreed. Bellew did enough, but i expected much more from him. Boxing to orders, as he admitted, and got the job done, but it didn't make for a decent fight. I'm not going to sat this will be better for fear of jinxing it

16-07-2011, 10:28 PM	#171
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Erm....

16-07-2011, 10:47 PM	#173
mhorton Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Watford Thanks: Gave 94, Got 126 Posts: 2,170	Went to get a coffee, when I came back it was all over. Feel sorry for the guy. Next one should be good.

16-07-2011, 11:07 PM	#174
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Better.....

16-07-2011, 11:30 PM	#175
bigtruck Prominent Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Liverpool Thanks: Gave 537, Got 368 Posts: 3,417	Well done Kevin Mitchell. Enjoyable fight that.

18-07-2011, 11:13 AM	#178
DrWise Conspicuous Member Join Date: May 2006 Thanks: Gave 357, Got 539 Posts: 8,754	the whole mayweather and pacquiao fight, in my eyes it will happen, but to me its bob arum stalling it, not the fighters, i'm just waiting for mayweather vs ortiz going to be a quality fight and possibly the rematch with Cotto and Margarito

20-07-2011, 8:57 PM	#179
redcat1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bournemouth Thanks: Gave 26, Got 86 Posts: 1,522	BBC Sport - Amir Khan aims to prove he is Britain's best boxer Haha, carl froch all the way

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Boxing Discussion thread *spoilers* (part 2)

Boxing Discussion thread spoilers (part 2)