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Old 07-01-2012, 6:26 PM   #451
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My personal opinion is that khan did not deserve the deducted points and just deserved to win.

However, the fact it went the other way did not make me angry.

Neither does khan voicing his opinion.... It was close and clearly something is not adding up is the whole situation.

What disgusts me is peoples attitude towards khan. He is a young man confident in his own ability.

Despite his faults he is also head and shoulders our best boxer.

Any other country in the world would be fully behind him.

I'm ashamed to be a British boxing fan sometimes.
 
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What disgusts me is peoples attitude towards khan. He is a young man confident in his own ability.

Despite his faults he is also head and shoulders our best boxer.

Any other country in the world would be fully behind him.

I'm ashamed to be a British boxing fan sometimes.
I often read comments like this. I would understand it if people were slagging the guy off for no good reason, but i think the way he's been going on in the press since the fight it's understandable people are getting fed up with hearing/ reading it.

We've had alot of controversial losses against British fighters this year, but most have just accepted it and moved on, Khan for my taste was very disrespectful against Peterson after the fight, and that type of behaviour I don't think is a very good example for the British boxing.

I think most of us here have commented that we think Khan can and will do better, and will win in the rematch. The only type of comment I find shameful is when a British boxer losses to the top teir fighter and is then classed as a nobody by the masses(seen alot of that against Froch since he was outclassed by Ward). Personally I don't see a loss as a big deal(even the very best have losses in their careers), especially if they go on to learn from the experience.

Khan is without doubt one of our best fighters at the moment, I would just like to see him behave a little more dignified.

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I often read comments like this. I would understand it if people were slagging the guy off for no good reason, but i think the way he's been going on in the press since the fight it's understandable people are getting fed up with hearing/ reading it.

We've had alot of controversial losses against British fighters this year, but most have just accepted it and moved on, Khan for my taste was very disrespectful against Peterson after the fight, and that type of behaviour I don't think is a very good example for the British boxing.

I think most of us here have commented that we think Khan can and will do better, and will win in the rematch. The only type of comment I find shameful is when a British boxer losses to the top teir fighter and is then classed as a nobody by the masses(seen alot of that against Froch since he was outclassed by Ward). Personally I don't see a loss as a big deal(even the very best have losses in their careers), especially if they go on to learn from the experience.

Khan is without doubt one of our best fighters at the moment, I would just like to see him behave a little more dignified.
Fair enough good post and I do agree with most of what you say.

But surely not an excuse to hate the guy with a passion like some do

Tbh I'm probably referring to comments I read on other forums because although some on here are disappointing (to me) there is far worse said.
 
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Golden boy and Khan just peeing a lot of boxing fans off right about now

khan hates having rematches as he didn't want to fight prescott again, although khan would take that

but still till this day I've seen the fight several times and my choice of winner doesn't change,lamont won

p.s GBP and Khan never had any rematch clause, as they never thought they'd lose, now they know, but in the end why should peterson car, and if scores were reversed seeing it was a very close fight, khan would never give a rematch,, justice is done, and to make things harder for khan, peterson is signed to Bob arum

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This story just keeps on going, it's almost becoming a soap opera now.

In the latest news, we now know who the mystery man is, he's been identified as Mustafa Ameen, apparently an IBF official of sorts. We'll be hearing a statement from him at an official hearing later in the week apparently.

What I find ammusing, is Freddie Roach is now claiming he knows the man personally and that he is not an IBF official. The funny part of this is that Khan had written this long story on Twitter trying to find out who this mystery hatman was, and that "nobody knows who he is", yet his own trainer knew him personally Surely Freddie could have just cleared that one up with Khan earlier, or did the hat make him unrecognisable
 
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SecondsOut Boxing News - My Micro Blog : Steve Kim - IBF releases statement:Mustafa Ameen aka 'the mystery man' is not an employee of theirs or an official of the IBF #boxing
 
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My personal opinion is that khan did not deserve the deducted points and just deserved to win.

However, the fact it went the other way did not make me angry.

Neither does khan voicing his opinion.... It was close and clearly something is not adding up is the whole situation.

What disgusts me is peoples attitude towards khan. He is a young man confident in his own ability.

Despite his faults he is also head and shoulders our best boxer.

Any other country in the world would be fully behind him.

I'm ashamed to be a British boxing fan sometimes.
Well said
 
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What disgusts me is peoples attitude towards khan. He is a young man confident in his own ability.

Despite his faults he is also head and shoulders our best boxer.
There's more to being a good boxer than how you perform in the ring, he needs to learn to take a loss and move on.

I don't believe he fully deserved the win - we've seen boxers go to America, Germany or other places and not perform to the best of their ability then complain about bais with the judges or such. The problem is, they knew the judges would side with the other fighter if it's a close call, so it's up to them to make sure they do enough to put it beyond reasonable doubt that they win, either clearly out perform the other guy or knock him out.

I think it's disgusting how he's been looking for excuses since the moment he lost, it was one of them fights that could go any way and when you're fighting in someone's home town you usually get a little bias. You have to question whey the fight wasn't in Vegas... Amir had the belts, he was the one calling the shots, why would you not want the fight in Vegas?

It's all very messy to me and I hate to see this in the sport, sure there are some things that have happened which look a little suspect, but sadly I had Amir as losing the fight when watching it, and again when re-watching it.
 
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Del boy hit the nail on the head for me.


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...han-gripe.html
Del Boy was the victim of a debated decision against Robert Helenius.

Yet Chisora, 28, said: "Loads of fighters get robbed but it's how you come back — that's the most important thing.

"So Amir Khan needs to shut up, put his gloves on, train hard and then go and knock that guy out in less than four rounds.

"I know I'm in the most dodgiest, corruptest sport in the whole world.

"So if the decision goes the wrong way, just take it and jog on."
 
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"We were raised to conduct ourselves where champions display professionalism, both in victory and defeat. Lamont previously tasted defeat and handled it the way it should be handled - he worked harder on areas that needed improvement to maximise his performance in the ring. Now, he is world champion.

"Khan blames everyone and everything but his performance and lack of ability to make adjustments in the ring for his loss."

On Point by Barry Hunter ''petersons trainer''
 
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Did anyone hear about mayweather calling manny pacquaio out to fight him on may 5th on his Twitter?
 
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yeah may 5th, freddie roach says pacquiao will make a decision by friday, as if the last few years weren't enough lol
 
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Did anyone hear about mayweather calling manny pacquaio out to fight him on may 5th on his Twitter?
Yeah, there was one last night calling Pacquaio a punk and another about putting his belt on the line.

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My Jail Sentence was pushed back because the date was locked in. Step up Punk.
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I'm ready to put my belt up. What about you Manny Pacquiao? Let's make history. Floyd Mayweather's Photo | Lockerz
 
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Makes me laugh tbh. Calling him a punk and calling him out after the debacle last time. Asking for things that aren't normal practice! Will he do the same this time? If not then this fight could have happened years ago when both were more in their prime. Or maybe that was Floyd's plan along. Maybe he thought Pacman was too good a few years ago and thought it was too hard a fight back then? Maybe?
 
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Makes me laugh tbh. Calling him a punk and calling him out after the debacle last time. Asking for things that aren't normal practice! Will he do the same this time? If not then this fight could have happened years ago when both were more in their prime. Or maybe that was Floyd's plan along. Maybe he thought Pacman was too good a few years ago and thought it was too hard a fight back then? Maybe?
I think you're right on the money(hehe) there. Pac, or maybe even both could be coming off their prime, but it would affect someone like Pacquiao's style far more than Mayweather's and I've always said that Mayweather would wait for signs of Pacquiao's decline before taking him on.
 
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So WBA order an immediate rematch
and the IBF have a meeting on 18th January

i hope the IBF drop the rematch, so the only belt on the line will be the WBA!! and if Peterson gives that up to fight another opponent than be it, but i heard GBP and Khan Promotions spent a lot of money on appealing, and I'm sure they paid the WBA to fix the match up, but if peterson can last again he will win a UD
WAR PETERSON
 
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So WBA order an immediate rematch
and the IBF have a meeting on 18th January

i hope the IBF drop the rematch, so the only belt on the line will be the WBA!! and if Peterson gives that up to fight another opponent than be it, but i heard GBP and Khan Promotions spent a lot of money on appealing, and I'm sure they paid the WBA to fix the match up, but if peterson can last again he will win a UD
WAR PETERSON
Paid the WBA?

Are you a simpleton?
 
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Paid the WBA?

Are you a simpleton?
Paid the WBA in order for the rematch, if the WBA aint corrupt than pigs surely fly, i just hope Peterson Sees sense and doesn't take the rematch, what is being speculated is a match up with Pacquaio if Bob Arum allows it to happen
 
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"Acting under its authority pursuant to WBA Rule C.26, the WBA concluded that the bout's outcome was impacted by referee Joseph Cooper's questionable failure to credit Khan with a knockdown in round one and his questionable decisions to deduct points from Khan in rounds seven and 12."
I must admit I can't really see what was so questionable about either, especially enough for grounds to call an immediate rematch mainly based on the above.

I'll have to watch it again, but I'm pretty sure the first knockdown which wasn't counted, was a combination of Khans elbow and Peterson tripping on the refs foot. And as for the point deductions, how many warnings were given prior to these for crying out loud.

Personally I don't think this turn of events is good for boxing, hope it doesn't start a trend of losing boxers appealing decisions left right and centre now

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Khan just showed he's a crybaby nothing to it more than that, theres times when a boxer, trains harder for the next fight i.e. marquez vs pacquiao, marquez thought he won at least 2 of them, but did we see him crying and calling for a no contest or rematch right away no, did we see that with gatti/ward, morales/barerra no why no because they are warriors of the ring, not like AK whose just like a little kid, couldn't take defeat, i partially blame GBP and also Khans team, still glad he lost to peterson, and i hope he loses the rematch aswell, even all the people i know who rated Khan want him to lose aswell, just says a lot about his character
 
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He has lost a lot of respect with a lot of people in the game, he's also upset a lot of other fellow fighters. Be interesting to see what happens with this from here...
 
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Khan just showed he's a crybaby nothing to it more than that, theres times when a boxer, trains harder for the next fight i.e. marquez vs pacquiao, marquez thought he won at least 2 of them, but did we see him crying and calling for a no contest or rematch right away no, did we see that with gatti/ward, morales/barerra no why no because they are warriors of the ring, not like AK whose just like a little kid, couldn't take defeat, i partially blame GBP and also Khans team, still glad he lost to peterson, and i hope he loses the rematch aswell, even all the people i know who rated Khan want him to lose aswell, just says a lot about his character
On the other hand maybe it will shake the sport into taking more care with their decision and officials?
 
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Lol @ Bob arum, goes to the may weather camp lets make the fight for june 9th and we can make a deal, lol even though Floyds sentence starts june 1st, now heres hoping the judge pushes the sentence another month to july and than see what excuse Arum makes, ''lets move the fight to july blah blah" lol, but arum has also said to potential targets for Pacquiao are Cotto and Peterson
 
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Amir Khan has withdrew his appeal to the IBF an the trial which was suppose to be tomorrow is now cancelled! Find this odd considering he has flown out to America for the trial only to hear this news.

Mayweather is at it again on Twitter calling for bob arum to make the fight happen an stop lying to the public. He then said may 5th is pacquios ass whopping day lol
 
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Also, apparently his next fight, Khan that is will be announced in the next 30 mins.

Reason here as to why appeal withdrawn! http://WWW.ringtv.craveonline.com/bl...-peterson-khan
 
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Golden Boy Promotions withdrew their appeal for an immediate rematch between Amir Khan and Lamont Peterson. The hearing between Khan and Peterson was scheduled for Wednesday. Team Khan, along with Golden Boy, had appealed the handling of Khan's split decision loss to Peteron, which took place last month in Washington, DC. The WBA recently ordered a Khan-Peterson rematch and Khan was trying to get the IBF to follow their lead.

It was withdrawn because a couple of senior officials were not attending

i got a feeling a rematch has been made, or a possible fight between khan and floyd on may 5th if pacman don't step up, but also I've heard pacquiao might fight cotto on june 9th


"I'm ready to fight Pacquiao 5/5/12. Bob Arum know the date can't change. I have my guarantee. Call Schaefer and Al and stop lying to the public," Mayweather wrote on Twitter Tuesday afternoon.

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Amir Khan has withdrew his appeal to the IBF an the trial which was suppose to be tomorrow is now cancelled! Find this odd considering he has flown out to America for the trial only to hear this news.

Mayweather is at it again on Twitter calling for bob arum to make the fight happen an stop lying to the public. He then said may 5th is pacquios ass whopping day lol
Pacquio may get beaten now but a few years ago pacquio would have destroyed meyweather easily
 
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Probably why mayweather has held on so long cause he knew. Wants to fight him now while he may not be at his best.
 
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to be honest, since 2005 I've been saying may weather beats pacquiao and i still stick to the point i made than
 
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to be honest, since 2005 I've been saying may weather beats pacquiao and i still stick to the point i made than
Disagree mate. Pacquio would knockout mayweather
 
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