[GaryB]

They've started...

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by GaryB

They've started...

No different to owen, gerrard and rooney cheating but i don't hear no backlash from them. o wait is it because their english?

Really whats the point of this thread? to critisise and bash Henry?

I bet this weekend we will see an englishman cheat in a similar manner and wont even get a mention by the media.

[loz]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

No different to owen, gerrard and rooney cheating but i don't hear no backlash from them. o wait is it because their english?

Really whats the point of this thread? to critisise and bash Henry?

I bet this weekend we will see an englishman cheat in a similar manner and wont even get a mention by the media.

What's this got to do with the English anyway?

[Abbeygoo]

Arsenal fans defending Henry like they defended Eduardo.

[Coffin]

Originally Posted by loz

What's this got to do with the English anyway?

Because we are in England and subjected to the English media. If this scenario had cropped up in a qualifier and Rooney or Bent or Defoe had been in Henry's situation the coverage wouldn't have been anywhere near as prominent.

That has already been proven over the years by incidents of similar deception which have involved English players representing either English clubs or the national team.

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by Abbeygoo

British fans Slaughtering Henry like they did Eduardo, drogba, ronaldo and just about every single foreigne player and not saying a single thing about the british players.

fixed

[Dony]

Originally Posted by Abbeygoo

Arsenal fans defending Henry like they defended Eduardo.

....I'm glad someone else has noticed that too.

[mabo]

Originally Posted by Abbeygoo

British fans slaughtering Henry like they did Eduardo, Drogba, Ronaldo and just about every single foreign player and not saying a single thing about the British players.

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

fixed

Fixed properly.

Sorry jonney, couldn't resist.

I'm surprised this discussion is already dividing along nationality/club lines though - they're just a few funny pics.

[jonneymendoza]

i diddnt know Henry still played for arsenal? I diddnt know anyone was defending henry to begin with! LOL

[Coffin]

Well that was hardly necessary..

[Coffin]

Sure but this is a family forum rather than one for banter between friends

Anyhow..I don't think Thierry Henry will be getting a Christmas card from Roy Keane this year

[Naaktgeboren]

You can hardly blame Henry for this, sure, he handled the ball and an a goal resulted in the incident but any striker in the world with a game as important as that would have done the same. It's up to the officals and on this occasion, both the linesman and the referee failed miserably.

Still, Fifa got the result they wanted

[BigBaddad]

Ironically up until that point, I wanted France to win. The more I watch it the more I think it was blatant cheating, Henry knew what he was doing. I think we should stop using Gillette products and petition their HQ about the type of person they use in their ads.

And now due to UEFA/FIFA's late rule changes, France go through as one of the ceeds. Henry and Platini well done, you have bought shame on your great nation and the beautiful game.

I think that this is God's way of punishing the Irish for giving the world John & Edward.

[GaryB]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

Really whats the point of this thread? to critisise and bash Henry?

No. I just thought the pics were funny.

[Steven]

You don't need to think it; it was cheating. The ball would have spun out of play without the two touches

[jonneymendoza]

of course he cheated. there is no denying it but my point is, when has there ever been a british player that has got the same attention and foreign players?

im not defending henry. he was a idiot in doing so but at the same time there is no need to have a huff and puff about it. Go and blame the referre and the people who run fifa.

for me i would at least fine henry and suspend him for 3 matches in the world cup or replay the game behind closed doors

[Coffin]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

for me i would at least fine henry and suspend him for 3 matches in the world cup or replay the game behind closed doors

Officially denied

Rules are rules but this sends a clear message that if you break the rules and don't get caught, you get away with it even after the situation has been assessed retrospectively, because the 'law' of the game makes you exempt due to the circumstance.

What a can of worms!

[GasDad]

Originally Posted by Coffin

Officially denied

Rules are rules but this sends a clear message that if you break the rules and don't get caught, you get away with it even after the situation has been assessed retrospectively, because the 'law' of the game makes you exempt due to the circumstance.

What a can of worms!

It can't be handled any other way.

What those who are asking for a replay are in effect asking for is a rule change to something like the following;

"If in the event of a cock up by the referee, that caused him to miss an important foul, goal or penalty incidence, the game in question will be replayed at the earliest opportunity."

Sky will love it there will be replays of games from the weekend on all week - the average season will be 734 games long.

[** Verve **]

Then there will be replays of replays when the ref cocks up again...then replays of replays of replays, the whole replay thing is completely unworkable.

As bitter a pill as it is to swallow, you just have to accept that from time to time refs will get it wrong and move on.

Its just a shame for the Irish that it happened in the most important game in years for them

[Marc]

absolutely brilliant interview, had me in stitches

BBC Sport - Football - Roy Keane has no sympathy for Republic of Ireland exit

[mooperman]

ha ha, stick the boot in...

[RMCF]

Perhaps he should be concentrating on trying to win a game for Ipswich.

[JimmyHart]

Why's there so much resistance to video technology even from fans? You're the ones losing out to dodgy players, yet you're happy to just say oh well, it happens.

Look at rugby, it works perfectly well. The game isn't stopped for the video ref to look at every single decision, it's just for grounding of the ball on the try line. A similar thing can be done in football, just pick certain situations that a video ref can look at. For example, a claim for handball, foul, etc inside the box.

Replying to verve directly, saying it's "completely unworkable" and "it's just a shame" are easy to say when it's not your team or country involved. What if England get to the final and I dunno, Messi cheats to beat you? You'll be outraged.

[plazmoid]

IMHO the man has a point. There are always bad decisions, some go for you some go against you. That's football.

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by RMCF

Perhaps he should be concentrating on trying to win a game for Ipswich.

He was asked a question and answered it, think he was spot on, get over it.

[** Verve **]

Haha quality, Keane is always good value in his press conferences!!

The bit when the journalists phone goes off....pure gold

[alexs2]

Keane interview merged with "the Handball" thread.

[** Verve **]

Originally Posted by JimmyHart84

Replying to verve directly, saying it's "completely unworkable" and "it's just a shame" are easy to say when it's not your team or country involved. What if England get to the final and I dunno, Messi cheats to beat you? You'll be outraged.

I'm English, watched the Maradonna 'Hand of God' goal in the World Cup 1/4 final in '86 and was gutted, we were cheated and yes like most people I was outraged by it.

I don't remember there being a mass clamour at the time to have the game replayed though?? I was quite young at the time, so maybe there was and I don't remember. If it happened again to england in a major final i'd be devastated.

Still don't think the game should be replayed though. Where do you draw the line, do you replay a game every time a ref gets a major decision wrong?? There would be replays all the time, it would be chaotic IMO and turn the game into a farce....more so than it is now

I'm all for video technology to be used for major incidents....that would eliminate these things from happening in the first place!

[JimmyHart]

Yeah I agree with you in that it shouldn't be replayed otherwise it sets a very bad precedent. When you mentioned that replays are unworkable though, I thought you meant video tech is a bad idea (i.e. replay in the video sense, not a match sense), misunderstanding! But as you say, it needs to be brought in. Certainly not anything like hawkeye like in tennis and cricket, but a video ref like in Rugby I think is needed.

[QuietRiot1983]

Originally Posted by JimmyHart84

Why's there so much resistance to video technology even from fans? You're the ones losing out to dodgy players, yet you're happy to just say oh well, it happens.

Look at rugby, it works perfectly well. The game isn't stopped for the video ref to look at every single decision, it's just for grounding of the ball on the try line. A similar thing can be done in football, just pick certain situations that a video ref can look at. For example, a claim for handball, foul, etc inside the box.

Replying to verve directly, saying it's "completely unworkable" and "it's just a shame" are easy to say when it's not your team or country involved. What if England get to the final and I dunno, Messi cheats to beat you? You'll be outraged.

Football has always been the working man's game though, all you need to have a game of football is a ball, 22 players, 3 refs, and jumpers for goalposts.

If we introduce technology for games, it will only apply to prem, championship and maybe league 1&2 games. So then other games (which are just as important to those on and around the pitch) lose out.

'Oh we would have won if we'd had the ability to use a video ref like further up the leagues'

IMO, football, competitive football, should be the same from the bottom to the top.