Will you be paying to watch the England match this weekend ?

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 7:45 AM

So the game this weekend will be broadcast over the internet only and some cinemas ?
Will you be paying ?

C225 · 05-10-2009, 7:55 AM

First i've heard of such a thing what game is it?

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 8:04 AM

Ukraine V England . Fiver if you buy it now , upto £12 on the day i believe

Aaron D84 · 05-10-2009, 8:09 AM

No.

If i decide to watch it i'll find somewhere to stream it for free. People can lambast me about that all they like but i refuse to pay to stream a game on my PC.

I may have considered paying for it if it was PPV on TV and may have considred paying for it on the PC it if the game was important but i already subscribe to Sky HD with Sky Sports and ESPN i'm not paying yet more money out for a meaningless qualifier.

Noggin1980 · 05-10-2009, 8:10 AM

No wonder they didn't get an "acceptable" offer from any TV station if they think it's good value for fans to pay £12 for what is in essence to England a meaningless friendly.

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 8:13 AM

now with added Poll

Toasty · 05-10-2009, 8:24 AM

So, can this game be shown in a pub? How bizarre.

loz · 05-10-2009, 8:25 AM

I won't be paying £4.99 given the lower quality and fragility of internet broadcasting.

AFAICS there is no highlights package on TV either.

So this is your only option to see the game.

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 8:31 AM

I wonder what they paid for the rights?
They may have no choice but to offer a highlights package to recoup some of their losses

JohnG · 05-10-2009, 8:36 AM

Another rip off for England fans, I won't be paying.

A mate of mine and his wife have been to most England qualifying games home and away and is in the top 3,000 for the Englandfans points system which should allow him to get tickets for South Africa. But England have now arranged another friendly, against Brazil in Qatar in November which will cost an absolute fortune for flights and hotels. This will mean that he'll miss out on these points and probably go down in the list. They did a similar thing before the last world cup as well.

Another mate has worked out that if you went to all the qualifiers and other matches for which points were awarded, you'll pay about the same (or maybe more) as you would if you bought your tickets for every England game in South Africa from a tout. This includes the unlikely even that we get to the final as well

loz · 05-10-2009, 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by johnscarlet

I wonder what they paid for the rights?
They may have no choice but to offer a highlights package to recoup some of their losses

It would not surprise me if there was a hasty rearrangement of some broadcasters Saturday night schedule come thursday/friday.

The Ukranian's will probably see how the bookings go for the Internet feed, and if (as likely) there isn't a big enough takeup, then they will accept one of the broadcasters offers.

So a TV highlights package could still be on the cards. Even live, if the Internet offer totally tanks.

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 8:40 AM

I would jave thought the Ukranians already have their cash , unless they also get a % on top
Didn't Setanta try this , but over satellite/TUTV ?
Did that not tank too ?

la gran siete · 05-10-2009, 8:44 AM

I stopped paying to Sky because i was fed up with being ripped off , so no i wont be paying for this one.They can get stuffed .As far as i am concerened i pay enough for the tv licence

JohnG · 05-10-2009, 8:48 AM

I remember when setanta were messing people about with an England game and many of us watched it live on the internet for free at a site called "f-word setanta.com"

hdsport · 05-10-2009, 9:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnG

But England have now arranged another friendly, against Brazil in Qatar in November

Just on this the Brazil game is part of a reciprocal arrangement with the Brazilian FA. They agreed to play in that first (senior) England game at the new Wembley in return England would then play an 'away' friendly with Brazil. So this isn't something out of the blue.

As for the Kentaro thing this has been on the cards for weeks personally I've no problem with it the foreign FA's have the right to make money and appoint an agency to do that. It's a bit rich for people from a country where the game is awash with money to moan about it. Unless there is a global decision from FIFA/UEFA to have competitive games FTA.

I'd say every home England qualifier live and FTA is pretty good deal (and since the collapse of Setanta you get home friendlies too). Just think of that Likely Lads episode.

In answer to the poll yes I will be watching (thanks to the people at Bet365).

JohnG · 05-10-2009, 9:07 AM

My point about the Brazil game in Qatar is that it shouldn't be part of the points scheme. Not many normal fans will be able to afford to go to that game for a pointless friendly, they've already spent a small fortune going to the qualifiers. The qualifiers will be what they've budgeted for this year and then this one crops up and could mean the difference between getting a proper ticket through the FA and not getting one.

I've given up on the points scheme altogether and haven't been to an England game for about a year now.

hdsport · 05-10-2009, 9:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnG

My point about the Brazil game in Qatar is that it shouldn't be part of the points scheme. Not many normal fans will be able to afford to go to that game for a pointless friendly, they've already spent a small fortune going to the qualifiers. The qualifiers will be what they've budgeted for this year and then this one crops up and could mean the difference between getting a proper ticket through the FA and not getting one.

I've given up on the points scheme altogether and haven't been to an England game for about a year now.

Ok but have they changed the criteria for the scheme, as long they are consistent. I'd say someone who goes to every game even one in Qatar should be at the top of the list, and if not many go then how much of an effect will it have?

Anyone know how many tickets England have?

Coffin · 05-10-2009, 9:25 AM

Absolutely 100% not

GasDad · 05-10-2009, 9:33 AM

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Originally Posted by la gran siete

I stopped paying to Sky because i was fed up with being ripped off , so no i wont be paying for this one.They can get stuffed .As far as i am concerened i pay enough for the tv licence

You pay a Ukrainian TV license ?

QuietRiot1983 · 05-10-2009, 9:33 AM

No, for a few reasons:

If I did want to watch it, it will be streamed elsewhere for free - probably at the same quality.

I loathe meaningless internationals breaking up the flow of proper football.

I'll only just be back from the League 2 game I'm going to (in the absence of 'real' football

)

loz · 05-10-2009, 10:52 AM

FYI

This is the site to use to book the event - or not...

World Cup Qualifier: Live Ukraine v England Online | Official Site

g8tecrasher · 05-10-2009, 11:12 AM

No chance

IAN P · 05-10-2009, 12:11 PM

No way Jose.

dazza74 · 05-10-2009, 12:27 PM

I wouldn't mind so much but as I've said before I can't get on with this country being held to ransom over things like this and will boycott it on principle. I really hope hardly anyone buys this and sticks to their guns as it could set a precedent if successful for what it will cost to buy all England away games from here on in

hdsport · 05-10-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dazza74

I wouldn't mind so much but as I've said before I can't get on with this country being held to ransom over things like this and will boycott it on principle. I really hope hardly anyone buys this and sticks to their guns as it could set a precedent if successful for what it will cost to buy all England away games from here on in

Not being held to ransom...they have a product to sell just like British companies do. Why should they be forced to sell it for a pittance just so some people in a richer country can watch it for free...now that would be immoral.

Plenty of England games are FTA far more than there ever used to be so there is no argument about it 'affecting future fans' etc.

There hasn't been a PPV England game for eight years which tells you something about the market for football...this is a fairly unique situation i.e. England already qualified and the original purchaser of the rights going bust.

**johnscarlet** · 05-10-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hdsport

There hasn't been a PPV England game for eight years

Setanta tried it only last year iirc

hdsport · 05-10-2009, 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by johnscarlet

Setanta tried it only last year iirc

No that was not PPV that was as part of a subscription.

Only one England was previously sold (in the UK) on a Pay-Per-View basis which was Finland away in 2000 (the Wednesday after the Germany game the final one at the old Wembley), that was done by U>Direct who have since gone bust.

SHATNERSTACTIC · 05-10-2009, 1:15 PM

No chance. Whoever is running this is living in La La land if they think they can charge that much for a stream.

How does the bet365 thing work then? Just register for an account, spend nothing and get access for free.

EDIT : Ah I see you need an account balance of £10.

hdsport · 05-10-2009, 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lee12

How does the bet365 thing work then? Just register for an account, spend nothing and get access for free.

You need to have a funded account £10 minimum so nothing to stop you taking it back out afterwards.

Citizen J · 05-10-2009, 1:21 PM

So you have to pay for £4.99 or £12 if you don't buy now and there's no highlights on terrestrial either

. Pretty poor if you ask me.

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