Argentina

LostFanBoy · 08-09-2009, 6:08 PM

I for one will be sad if they dont qualify for 2010 ..its not looking good they need a win tomorrow against Paraguay
Maradona is not the great Saviour alas

SHATNERSTACTIC · 08-09-2009, 6:16 PM

Add Portugal into that category too, if anything there's is the more perilous situation.

The two best players in the World not at the World Cup would be a shame.

scarty16 · 08-09-2009, 6:25 PM

Maybe it is all the work (hand) of God that they don't qualify

BlackCountryBob · 08-09-2009, 6:28 PM

Indeed, there do seem to be an awful lot of the established big nations who are making something of a hash of qualification (France). Even more surprising is the difficulty of the smaller nations such as Poland, Sweden and Czech Republic. Even in Africa there seems to be some difficulty for the usual suspects like Egypt and Cameroon.

I do not really pay that much attention to internationals usually but are we perhaps in the middle of something of a transition in international football. Even the England team is man for man a much weaker unit than it was 10 years back.

Would be a shame to see Messi and/or Ronaldo not at the World Cup (especially Ronaldo, if he aint playing footy the papers will be full of his waxed chest as he miraculously avoids getting skin cancer).

ed_mcl · 08-09-2009, 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LostFanBoy

I for one will be sad if they dont qualify for 2010 ..its not looking good they need a win tomorrow against Paraguay
Maradona is not the great Saviour alas

I don't think they need a win tomorrow. Both Ecudor and Columbia (who look like the two immediate threats to Argentina) have tricky away games to Bolivia and Uruguay respectively, plus there is still two games for them to play and they really only need to place 5th in the table to then be placed in a intercontinental qualifier.

What the AFA do need to do is bin Maradona as he simply hasn't a clue.

jabintendo · 08-09-2009, 6:45 PM

i would be more worried about portugal not qualifing then argentina

sdb123 · 08-09-2009, 7:49 PM

Are Argentina the international equivalent to Newcastle in putting their faith in 'one of their own' who hasn't got any experience at managing at such a level? Saviour indeed.

ed_mcl · 08-09-2009, 10:26 PM

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Are Argentina the international equivalent to Newcastle in putting their faith in 'one of their own' who hasn't got any experience at managing at such a level? Saviour indeed.

It does seem like it.

dazza74 · 09-09-2009, 8:43 AM

Maradonna's fell out with Riquelme so not picking him not helping him out with the press. If they defend like they did against Brazil the other night I think anyone could get a few goals against them.

LostFanBoy · 10-09-2009, 12:57 AM

Useless

dazza74 · 10-09-2009, 9:27 AM

You'd fancy Argentina if they can sort themselves out to get 3 points in the next game against Peru. A lot for me depends on what happens in Ecuador v Uruguay match. Looks a great match the last one Argentina v Uruguay

Citizen J · 10-09-2009, 11:48 AM

Very sad indeed that we may not see the current two best players in the world Messi and Ronaldo at the World Cup. I for one want to see the best players and teams, it will be a real shame if Argentina don't qualify but everyone has to earn the right to patricipate. With the likes of France, Czech's, Turkey also struggling it could be an interesting to see how the World Cup unfolds should they not get there.

LostFanBoy · 10-09-2009, 11:56 AM

they have no chance of qualifying with Maradona in charge ...... the team last night was awful Martin Palermo !! come on 10 years ago maybe

Scholes18 · 10-09-2009, 11:58 AM

Wont be sad at all , if youre not good enough then hard cheese. Its good to see that nations cant assume they will sail through qualification anymore.

la gran siete · 10-09-2009, 12:36 PM

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You'd fancy Argentina if they can sort themselves out to get 3 points in the next game against Peru. A lot for me depends on what happens in Ecuador v Uruguay match. Looks a great match the last one Argentina v Uruguay

massive rivals those two ,

l.The Argies should beat Peru tho who look a poor side

*RMCF* · 10-09-2009, 2:38 PM

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Maybe it is all the work (hand) of God that they don't qualify

That was 23 years ago - get over it will youse?

On the subject of their current plight, they may well not qualify but 5th should be ok as they will play that play-off that they have won in the past, and win it again.

But their team is a shambles. For a team that contains both Messi and Aguero, its let down by some real dross.

Veron for **** sake!! He was always useless. And falling out with Riquelme was a bad idea. Only real talented midfielder they have. Their current midfield is Veron, the massively over-rated Mascherano, the useless Gago and some other punter. That is really weak.

And their defence has Zanetti from Inter - he's about 37 or so. And Gabriel Heinze was finished about 3 or 4 years ago.

But its not just Argies who are weak. Bar maybe Holland, Brazil and Spain, most teams are shadows of their former selves. Take Czechs, Croatia, Scotland, Ireland, Portugal, France, Belgium, Italy, Romania, Poland, Germany - all very average sides. The standard is falling like a brick in international football.

But reading the media today it appears there's no point in holding the WC next year, cos England have it wrapped up already

scarty16 · 10-09-2009, 2:51 PM

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That was 23 years ago - get over it will youse?

Sorry, but I do not forget about blatent cheating, especially from a fat druggie.

sdb123 · 10-09-2009, 2:55 PM

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Martin Palermo !!

*Remembers the three penalties missed in one game*.

LostFanBoy · 10-09-2009, 2:58 PM

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*Remembers the three penalties missed in one game*.

exactly !! lol

dazza74 · 10-09-2009, 4:16 PM

Maybe we could offer Messi a passport if they don't qualify

I'm sorry but hand of god and all that, the winker, don't think I could pick myself up of the floor if Argentina & Portugal didn't make it.

*RMCF* · 10-09-2009, 4:31 PM

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Sorry, but I do not forget about blatent cheating, especially from a fat druggie.

One man's fat druggie is another man's genius

dazza74 · 10-09-2009, 4:33 PM

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One man's fat druggie is another man's genius

In management

Amazing on the pitch for all my bleating about the hand of god, you can't argue with the other goal he scored against England in '86

la gran siete · 10-09-2009, 5:31 PM

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Sorry, but I do not forget about blatent cheating, especially from a fat druggie.

blatant cheating?????lol Name m4e a player who hasnt cheated to some extent or other.When the stakes are high players cheat or foul.

la gran siete · 10-09-2009, 5:34 PM

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I Even the England team is man for man a much weaker unit than it was 10 years back.

best squad of players since 1990 .best qualifying record ever.Ru taking your tablets?

LostFanBoy · 10-09-2009, 5:38 PM

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Sorry, but I do not forget about blatent cheating, especially from a fat druggie.

so if Lampard scores the winner in a world cup q/f with his hand you wont celebrate ?

la gran siete · 10-09-2009, 5:40 PM

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so if Lampard scores the winner in a world cup q/f with his hand you wont celebrate ?

lol
he'll be screaming at the ref to disallow it

sdb123 · 10-09-2009, 5:41 PM

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so if Lampard scores the winner in a world cup q/f with his hand you wont celebrate ?

So you're saying he's a 'fat druggie' too?

LostFanBoy · 10-09-2009, 5:48 PM

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So you're saying he's a 'fat druggie' too?

not a druggie . no

DrWise · 10-09-2009, 5:56 PM

i for one would love it if neither portugal or argentina qualify

ed_mcl · 10-09-2009, 8:38 PM

I guess all these people moaning about Maradona's "cheating" feel the same about Owen's dive in the 1998 World Cup, or in the 2002 World Cup against Argentina when Beckham dived trying to win a free-kick just before Owen dived and won a penalty.

10-09-2009, 8:38 PM	#30
ed_mcl Ex Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Thanks: Gave 81, Got 36 Posts: 1,112	Re: Argentina I guess all these people moaning about Maradona's "cheating" feel the same about Owen's dive in the 1998 World Cup, or in the 2002 World Cup against Argentina when Beckham dived trying to win a free-kick just before Owen dived and won a penalty.