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24-08-2009, 6:06 PM
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How did football ever get to this?
I'm sat here reading reports that Joleon Lescott, the good player that he is, finds his way to Man City valued at £24m. I'm asking myself how good is this guy? What's he won? How many shirts will he sell? Does he have resale value? Will he be first choice?
Another example other than Lescott is Xabi Alonso. Last year he almost moved to another club (Arsenal if you believe the reports, which I don't, as the top 4 never trade such stature players) but my point being his value was around £15m. Any fan will tell you he had a good following summer and season; but for him to be subsequently sold for almost £30m is disproportionate.
Obviously the influence of Real's presidency and City's investors has a large part to play in all this. Some may claim other Clubs have been spending exorbitantly for years but seldom have Clubs paid over the odds without hesitation or disregard. Rio Ferdinand at the age of 23 was hardly a bad buy even for £30m. The same would apply to a 18 year old Wayne Rooney for £25m.
So how did football ever get to this? What will define success for City this season? How can Cristiano Ronaldo possibly match his stratospheric transfer fee?
My good friends dad who works for the local FA is getting on a bit so can't go to as many games as he used to. Now, he only watches the games themselves on TV and ignores quite literally everything else. He has no interest in the 'breaking news' that Sky often report. His football interest literally lives for the 90 minutes.
I am only 28 years old, having followed the game intensely since a young teen but can understand why some "oldies" are disillusioned with the modern game. There was once a time, win lose or draw, you would be satisfied in knowing your 11 players on the pitch had given their all.
Arsene Wenger has often stated the need to entertain the paying spectator is equally important as winning the game. And whilst I may be entirely bias, I find it rewarding to know Arsenal continue to play their game whilst living within their means.
This isn't quite a rant but I wonder if the way the game has changed over the last 15 years is ultimately for the better
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24-08-2009, 6:20 PM
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Real Madrid and Manchester City can hardly be taken as representative of the whole. At the end of the day £22-24million is nothing to the owners. You have to remember that up until a year and a halve ago, Chelsea were facing the same charges. Suddenly the purse strings were tightened and Man City were pricing Chelsea out of the market. Who woulda thunk it in the heady days of Ranieri and Mourinho spending(!)
I would also think the market is only destabilised if those teams are in for the same players. Any agent trying it on will soon have their bluff called when they realise they risk losing their cut
I would suppose that whether anybody thinks the alleged fee for Lescott is irrelevant. The owners can clearly spare it. Ultimately will he improve City? The answer is yes. Based on the opening lot of games the big 4 might have expanded to 6. And to be honest, the thought of upstarts is rather more the issue than the transfers being made I feel
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24-08-2009, 7:34 PM
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The likes of Man €ity are altering the transfer market in this country, chairmen and managers are expecting to recieve higher prices for their players.
Reports are that Blackburn want £8 million for Warnock, who is possibly worth £5m, but not £8m.
Lescott is maybe worth £7m at a stretch and isn't even an England regular. I would really expect Ferdinand or Terry for that sort of money.
Moyes must be laughing his way to the bank.
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24-08-2009, 7:36 PM
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Totally mad.
Where will it all end.
Caps needed on transfer fees, wages etc etc.
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24-08-2009, 7:38 PM
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Originally Posted by domtheone Totally mad.
Where will it all end.
Caps needed on transfer fees, wages etc etc. | Absolutely agree.
I think it is disgusting that 1/2 of all Premier League clubs are now foreign owned.
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24-08-2009, 7:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Miyazaki Absolutely agree. | Coming from a Villa supporter that values Young @ 30m. Quote: |
Arsenal continue to play their game whilst living within their means.
| They don't spend big money on player as they haven't got it, still paying for a stadium.
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24-08-2009, 7:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thfccambs Coming from a Villa supporter that values Young @ 30m. 
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24-08-2009, 7:44 PM
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Trust me, we're not paying 24mil, despite what the press or SSN tell you.
It's more like 12 + Jo at the end of the season. The '24mil' is to appease the Everton fans so they don't get on Moyes' back, despite the fact he "won't have time" to spend it.
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24-08-2009, 7:45 PM
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Originally Posted by QuietRiot1983 Trust me, we're not paying 24mil, despite what the press or SSN tell you.
It's more like 12 + Jo at the end of the season. The '24mil' is to appease the Everton fans so they don't get on Moyes' back, despite the fact he "won't have time" to spend it. |
Your wrong, i know for a fact it's a lot more then 12m.
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Originally Posted by QuietRiot1983 Trust me, we're not paying 24mil, despite what the press or SSN tell you.
It's more like 12 + Jo at the end of the season. The '24mil' is to appease the Everton fans so they don't get on Moyes' back, despite the fact he "won't have time" to spend it. | ********.
Where's your source then?
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24-08-2009, 7:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thfccambs Your wrong, i know for a fact it's a lot more then 12m.  | Quote:
Originally Posted by Miyazaki ********.
Where's your source then? |
Same one as always. 100% reliable. Don't really care if you don't believe me, because I know it's right.
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24-08-2009, 7:55 PM
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Originally Posted by QuietRiot1983 Same one as always. 100% reliable. Don't really care if you don't believe me, because I know it's right. |
Ok then.
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24-08-2009, 7:56 PM
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Originally Posted by QuietRiot1983 Same one as always. 100% reliable. Don't really care if you don't believe me, because I know it's right. | We'll agree to disagree then.
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24-08-2009, 7:58 PM
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Sounds good to me.
EDIT:  needed to add smiley to make it sound more like I'm legit.
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24-08-2009, 8:07 PM
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How many times has Lescott actually played at centre back because i seem to remember him alot at left back.
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