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27-05-2009, 9:23 PM
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Iniesta Or Gerrard
Guys Who you think is the better player?
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27-05-2009, 11:02 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
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why gerrard vs iniesta you think if gerrard played tonight and played well the votes would be biased
Iniesta is a top draw player but i have said it time and time again
stevie g is the best midfielder in the world votes cast will be overshadowed by tongights performance by iniesta.
Iniesta vs Carrick vs Anderson vs Hargreaves vs Giggs vs Scholes vs Fletcher then there is no comparison
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27-05-2009, 11:12 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
No brainer for me - Iniesta
English players are overrated, especially the likes of Gerrard and Lampard
All Iniesta & Co need do now is win the World Cup
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27-05-2009, 11:18 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
stevie g- overrated!!  give me a break, man!!
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27-05-2009, 11:39 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
I suspect if you asked managers they would tell you that they want both  If we are playing fantasy manager then I'm not going to draw arbitrary distinctions. You can have it all
It is a curiosity of some English fans. "Look - his passport has a picture of the Queen's emblem on it too! He cannot possible be considered next to these foreigners with their pretty boy good looks and olive skin"
It is clear that a player does not make a team, but for those around certain English stars at club level, they shine. It is a testament to the abilities of Steven Gerrard that if you asked a manager to have a pick versus Iniesta, Messi or whoever they would think long and hard
And again with Frank Lampard. He gets his detractors for precisely one reason only - he performs. Simple. I personally have no time for people who would falsely claim to be football fans when Lampard was meanwhile on a mission, particularly when Scolari was about to be sacked, and therefore the best they can do is a pie joke. I think there is a bit of a difference between "Premiership fitness" and "football fan fitness" in any case
Iniesta and Xavi owned that midfield tonight, but lets be honest, Barca did not have to hit top gear. They got away with Puyol as a right back
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27-05-2009, 11:40 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
Gerrard wasnt playing tonight so stick with the barca vs manc comparisons
When liverpool played them in 2007 we won 2-1 at the Nou camp they may well be a better team lets see if we draw each other next season so we can see again.
Iniesta is a brilliant player and Xavi is brilliant aswell but they bossed a crappy midfield if there was the likes or Alonso, masch and gerrard in there i doubt they would have the same freedom
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28-05-2009, 12:04 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
As a neutral, I'd love to have BOTH of them in midfield.
Both great, if different, types of players.
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28-05-2009, 12:18 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
I'll probably get some flak for stating my opinion but that's all it is.
If Gerrard, Lampard etc are world class why is it when you put them in an England shirt they fail to live up to their hype
To me, they are all overrated, over valued and lacking versatility
To put things into context, how many English players have played over seas in the last 20 years?
And what are the odds next year England under-achieve at the World Cup, and are knocked out by an 'inferior' team?
Not exactly stellar performances from world class players if you ask me
I mean, where was Iniesta at Euro 2008? - holding up the European Cup
Where was Gerrard?- at home lifting up a tea cup
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28-05-2009, 7:53 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
Iniesta is obviously quality, but id still have Stevie G in a premiership team over Iniesta (although his diving makes me  )
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28-05-2009, 8:25 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
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I'll probably get some flak for stating my opinion but that's all it is.
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Yes, I can only assume you know nothing about football.
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If Gerrard, Lampard etc are world class why is it when you put them in an England shirt they fail to live up to their hype
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How many times has Gerrard played in his correct position for England out of about 70 appearances? About 5 times.
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To me, they are all overrated, over valued and lacking versatility
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Gerrard overated? How? Overvalued - never been transfered so how would we know? & Not Versatile? Play Gerrard in any of the 10 outfield positions & he'll shine, they is not a more versatile player on the player & there probably never has been. The only position I've never seen Gerrard play in Centreback & I'm pretty damn sure he'd be better than the average CB.
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To put things into context, how many English players have played over seas in the last 20 years?
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To put things into context correctly, why would any English player want to play abroad when the majority of top players are over here in the strongest league with the most money?
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And what are the odds next year England under-achieve at the World Cup, and are knocked out by an 'inferior' team?
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Inferior on the day or inferior because their grandfathers didn't win a world cup? Why would England be superior against any other team, we have a handful of world class players, but we're not Spain.
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I mean, where was Iniesta at Euro 2008? - holding up the European Cup
Where was Gerrard?- at home lifting up a tea cup
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Yeah, he won it all on his own didn't he
There is no comparison between Iniesta & Gerrard, they play different roles, although traditionally more attacking Iniesta now sits nicely in midfield pulling the strings. Gerrard has been moved forward from that role.
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28-05-2009, 10:59 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
It is clear that they are both amazing midfielders, but are very different.
I myself prefer inesta but that is because he is a more cuter player with he ball. (i prefer this style)
Gerrard is a fantastic fielder with passion and goals in him. If inesta scored more goals than gerrard, then i think most people would agree he would be better than gerrard, but he does play more deeper than gerrrard.
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28-05-2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
Passing bossing a game then Iniesta
Scoring goals and attacking play - Gerrard.
Two slightly different players imo.
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28-05-2009, 11:45 AM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
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Yes, I can only assume you know nothing about football.
How many times has Gerrard played in his correct position for England out of about 70 appearances? About 5 times.
Gerrard overated? How? Overvalued - never been transfered so how would we know? & Not Versatile? Play Gerrard in any of the 10 outfield positions & he'll shine, they is not a more versatile player on the player & there probably never has been. The only position I've never seen Gerrard play in Centreback & I'm pretty damn sure he'd be better than the average CB.
To put things into context correctly, why would any English player want to play abroad when the majority of top players are over here in the strongest league with the most money?
Inferior on the day or inferior because their grandfathers didn't win a world cup? Why would England be superior against any other team, we have a handful of world class players, but we're not Spain.
Yeah, he won it all on his own didn't he
There is no comparison between Iniesta & Gerrard, they play different roles, although traditionally more attacking Iniesta now sits nicely in midfield pulling the strings. Gerrard has been moved forward from that role.
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28-05-2009, 2:33 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
Firstly, two different types of midfield players. It's difficult to choose something over another when each have different purposes.
Also Iniesta has just turned 25, Gerrard is 29 on Saturday. So if I had to choose a player today it would be Iniesta. In terms of trophies, Gerrard would be envious of the Spanish player as Iniesta holds 3 League titles and has won 2 European Cups, having played the 2nd half against Arsenal in '06 at the age of 22 (!)
BUT, after saying all that and as an Arsenal supporter; seeing Gerrard week in week out giving his all is magnificent stuff and his overall influence on the rest of the team is practically tangible. For a long time now he's been a favorite player of mine.
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28-05-2009, 2:53 PM
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Re: Iniesta Or Gerrard
I assume the OP is using Iniesta for the reason United were hammered last night, not anything to do with their own poor show.
Maybe a more appropriate poll would be.
Would Liverpool have had a far better showing against Barcelona last night?
Answer, most definitely.
& Chelsea, & Arsenal
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