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Originally Posted by DJT75 I love all these comments from people that have probably seen Iniesta play for 90 minutes in their entire lives - but they're now experts on Spanish football, hilarious.
For the Gerrard versatile bashers above, picking an England team is not just about picking 11 players (although it has been for years prior to Capello's arrival), you need tactics & a system. Not only has Gerrard not been played in a position to best benefit him & the team, he's been stuffed in there with absolutely no instruction of any intelligence. So if you want Gerrard to be player manager, fine, but it's his managers that have failed to use him to the best benefit, not himself. Anyone that doesn't think he's World Class should stop watching football now, there's not a manager in the world that wouldn't have him in their starting 11 - what else can he do?
Gerrard & Iniesta are both world class players, they are at the top of world football, just like Messi is, just like Kaka is, just like Xavi is - it's not rocket science.
To the "the EPL isn't the strongest league in the world" theorist. Please do tell me which one is then because I struggling to see how else has dominated the last 8 in the Champions League for the last 5 years. So what if Kaka plays abroad, Messi plays abroad - maybe they prefer the weather or culture (I would). The Premier League has had & still has a mountain of top players. It's not just the domestic players that make up a league it's the overseas players too - where are Kaka, Messi, E'to, Henry from? Not the countries they play in, so the whole quote from "neilios" is utter garbage, he's confusing the England team with the EPL.
So Barcelona beat a very underperforming United side 2-0, whoopie-do, on another day they might not & I'm pretty sure had it been the current form Chelsea or Liverpool sides playing they may have even been beaten. Yes they're good but they're not unbeatable & their own domestic league at the moment is on a low so they're having it very easy. |
I only picked up on the Mr Versatile because you said Gerrard can shine in any position and is the most versatile player but then you say he's not doing as well because he's played out of position.
With regards to the Premier league being one of the best leagues, even years ago (when it wasn't as foreign) it was still regarded as one of the top leagues by some, and even then I would have disagreed.
English football has a certain way about it, it is really boring to watch compared to a lot of foreign football.
Don't tell me you find England playing football more enjoyable than watching Argentina or Brazil, or even Portugal or Spain.
The brazilian leagues for example don't have real big teams but the football they play is more enjoyable, big teams don't necessarily equal good football.
Your point about say the Spanish leagues where the other teams aren't anywhere near Barca etc, I still find Spanish and Italian football far more entertaining to watch.
Going back to Gerrard he's not a bad player at all, he's just over rated, in the same way Pioneer tvs are, yes they are very good, at the top of their game, but just over rated