monitor audio bronze b2 demo dissapoints

[paulpj]

just bought cambridge audio 640 v2 amp and cd and got speakers free morduant short 902i which are very very good ,however temptation made me take home and try the b2 and i was all excited only to be dissapointed ,their sound was nice and full but lacked the clarity of the morduants. i was using dnm reson speaker cable with chord cobra interconnect ,then tried biwire with mark grant speaker cable and merlin chopin interconnect but still sounds a bit muffled if you like ,any suggestions b4 i return them regards cable etc .cheers

[lazymatt]

Are they new? If so, how long have you given to run them in?

Also are they the B2's or the newer BR2's?

[paulpj]

will check the model when home, they were used for demo in shop but i never heard at time other people were listening to something so he said to try em at home which i thought was best.

[paulpj]

yes they are the br2,would you say generally they would sound as good and clear as themorduant short 902i

[leedswillprevai]

I would say so, run them in for a bit longer before you judge them

[lazymatt]

They should definately sound better.

They can take around 60 hrs to properly run in though!!!

However the MS are very good little speakers, and they may better suit your room, so if you can't hear any difference, don't buy the MA's.

[paulpj]

yeah fair enough, any recomendatins on cabling, i read a lot about ecosse cables, as a retailer what cables do you work with and find good results

[lazymatt]

Truth be told - what you have is fine.

You could try something by Chord, but whether it'll actually make a difference that you can hear....

[paulpj]

just felt like getting new as you do with a new system , ecosse give an upgrade table vs system value that seems handy though mark grant cables get some good reviews.i want cables that will give me an airyness around the music if you see what i mean, what i have does sound very very nice but bought these a while ago without the aid of this forum and felt with adcice from guys like you could really make the system shine i also have a set of mission 780 bookshelf i candig out nxt wk to run out , if you were selling me cables from scratch for this system and you could recc any , wha would they be , i only need 1.5m spkr and .5 to 1m max interconnect , wouldnt like to put upper or lower budget yet as maybe system cost can reflect your sugestions,cheers

[lazymatt]

I don't deal in cables as such; more in mp3 players & home audio systems.

However, as a retailer, you've got to be the perfect customer; someone who wants to spend money even when they've ben advised against it!!! So if you're ever in the market for something I can help you with, look me up!!!!

On to your problem, I like QED XT400. Gonna be complete overkill for your system, but you know that. At least the cabling will not be the limiting factor.

How are you getting on with the speakers BTW? Had time to run them in yet?

[pwood]

The cables you have tried so far are not poor. I really dont think the problem lies with cabling. Cables will bring about subtle improvements not night and day ones.

Running in speakers is always a good idea but normally they sound bright to begin with not dull. I think you should trust your ears and also bear in mind your room may be better suited to other types. I assume your speaker stands are can be filled. Try changing the amount of damping in them and distance to the rear wall the latter is not always practicle however.

[paulpj]

sorry to be a pain but what do you mean by "complete overkill" on my system , also if i get that cable any interconnect to suit.

[lazymatt]

The MA Bronze and MS speakers are (very good) 'budget' speakers (in broad terms). The system you're running is £600 ish?

Irrespective, the QED XT 400 (and indeed the other leads you have tried) are really mid level & upwards cables.

Most people running speakers at than level will probably be happy with something like QED Silver Anniversary at around £5 pm. Not a £20 pm cable.

I currently run a Roksan Kandy Mk III pairing (£1300) and MA S6's (£600) - when bought new - and use QED Silver

In fact there are a few on here who would question spending anything like that on cables at all, and are more than happy with the Gale cable that Richers sell for a couple of pounds a meter (I use it in my HC set up). Or even home made cable.

Any of the cables you have already will be happy in much more expensive systems and will still not be the limiting factor.

I hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, or insulting or anything. Just trying to give some advice/opinion.

The original problem stems from your dissatisfaction of the test run of the speakers, and I'm just not sure a change of speaker cable will help & am loathed to 'recommend' you spend money, when it may well not be justified.

The stuff you have is already very good. As good as the BR2's are, they're not a huge step up from the MS's (which are very good speakers for the money). If you really want something better, I would suggest trying out the MA RS1's, and keep the cabling you have. I think this will make a much more appreciable difference.

If you must have new cables, then speakers: QEDXT400 and interconnects: anything by Atlas in the £40 - £100 range, or Merlin Chopin (£80), or Cyrus (£100)

[paulpj]

cheers for that,the reason i have these cables is i used to have a yamaha dsp ax1 amp worth over a grand plus other denon and marantz and i have bought seperate hifi av now and the cables are all i have left , i should have explained in the start , this is why i am using them ,i would happily sell on the forums and replace with suited , i do have a merlin chopin too , with the phono on the cd and amp being silver shouldi then stick to silver interconnect and cables rather than copper or a mix.cheers again

[paulpj]

thinking about it, it could be that these cables need more from source as in higher end , and lower value cabling has its potential achieved easier due to their similarity on the scale of cost if that makes sense , therefore the ecosse refference chart based on value of set up is quite applicable in this case have a look on their www see what you think,cheers