[krazyolie]

Sounds better with my new amptastic mini-t instead of the marantz. Bi wiring with it would be very difficult as it's so small, I may try knock up some jumpers out of the cable I'm using which is too long anyway.

[fayeanddavid]

Originally Posted by Obiit

I just created jumper links from the same cable i ran from the amp (cannot remember now but it was a pure copper cable). Nearer the front of the thread are posts from Jules and PistolPete (i think as i'm at work and i havn't time to check) about using copper cable over silver plated/bi-wiring.

HTH

Agreed, there is a school of thought that says jumpers made from the same as your speaker cable do indeed sound better.
Gotta be worth a try.

[rdsu]

Originally Posted by Obiit

I just created jumper links from the same cable i ran from the amp (cannot remember now but it was a pure copper cable). Nearer the front of the thread are posts from Jules and PistolPete (i think as i'm at work and i havn't time to check) about using copper cable over silver plated/bi-wiring.

HTH

I saw the Jules and PistolPete posts.

I will do the same as you...

Thanks

[uncola]

guys help, I am a moron.. I just unboxed my kef q series speakers and I can't figure out how to plug in my banan plugs.. the binding posts already have black or red plastic things in the holes.. how do I remove what's in there?

[uncola]

nevermind I figured it out, I have no fingernails so I couldn't pry them out at first but a flathead took care of it

[uncola]

Man I'm amazed at how good these speakers are. They actually exceed my sennheiser hd595 headphones which I wasn't sure was possible. Human voices actually sound real and not artificial.. also when someone strums a guitar chord I can actually hear it resonate like it's in the room with me. Bass is great too I didn't feel the need to enable my subwoofer for 2 channel music
Hehe I barely have room for these, have to use them without the feet. Center is a bic america acoustech pl-26 - 1" horn loaded aluminum dome tweeter with two 6.5" woofers.

http://flic.kr/p/bW5Jbh
http://flic.kr/p/bW5UmN
ipad mic gets overwhelmed in the 2nd one

[uncola]

So I have to mail my onkyo receiver to onkyo for repair.. while it's gone.. I have no way of using my kef q900 speakers..
I was thinking of ordering this Dayton dta100a amplifier to use temporarily.. the only thing I use plugged into my receiver was my mac mini.. so I figured I could just plug the stereo 3.5mm out of the mac mini into the dayton dta100a amplifier.. the amplifier is supposed to do 30watts per channel with low distortion from what I've read.. is this doable?
option 2 would be to use the dayton amplifier with my onkyo htib fronts that I have in my closet.. if the dayton would damage the q900s

here's the specs of the q900 Impedance: 8 ohms. Sensitivity: 91dB/2.83V/m. Maximum output: 114dB. Amplification: 15–200W.

this is the amplifier I was going to use with my mac mini to power the kef q900s while my receiver is gone
Dayton Audio DTA-100a Class-T Digital Amplifier 50 WPC Provides Power To Computer Speakers, Bookshelf Speakers, Headphones, And More! 300-383

[uncola]

Eureka, it works! Dayton DTA100a has no problem powering my kef q900s

[Beowoolf]

Hello all from Vancouver, BC.

I know that this might be a bit late, sine the hype was so 2011, lol; but it's all good considering for the past 10 years I've been with Bose cube speakers, which I am very ashamed to admit.

Moving on ...

I have been reading from this forum for a few weeks now after having bought the Q900s. I have read all 3 KEF Owners threads and multiple others (subs, amps, etc) and have gained some cool info on the Q900s and other things.

I bought them from Visions, a Canadian source and was able to negotiate a bit on the prices. I first bought the 900s, then a few days later bought the 600 and ordered the 800ds. While awaiting for the 800 to arrive, I played a bit with the 900s and 600 with the sub from the Cs series on my underpowered HK AVR 1650 (95w/channel) which was originally bought to power the C1s 5.1 (great deal from Costco.ca as the whole 5.1 setup was $499 cdn) and they sound amazing but definitely lacking in the mids and high. :D my jump from the C1s to the 900s is significant; however, considering that the C1s were originally for a 3x4m room, that was plenty of power. Now that I've moved into a bigger place, with the room being 18x30' with 10' high ceilings, I that the 900s had to be it -- being a consumers av store, the 900s were Visions' highest end towers --nonetheless, I am glad they carry KEF -- and having heard from the C1s, I jumped right on the 900s.

Here comes the sad part. Because I was soo excited on purchasing the 900s while the house is still being renovated (carperelieving ripped off), lol, I was only able to play with them for ONE NIGHT, and that one night only

I have been reading lots of subs and still unsure as to get the 400 or go with something else, although I would like the complete the set with all KEFs. I was looking into the 12" Polk 660 (also from Visions) or possibly the BW ones -- I don't believe we carry Velodyne or SVS here in Vancouver (I could always order them, but I would like to try them out first you know). What do you guys think? ...Alan/gixer, Ron etc --- love reading your posts, lol.

Another question for the amp: dennon or onko. The guys at Visions recommended the Cambridge Azur 551R; however it is only 60/channel. I would love to get a Marantz, but I don't believe we have them here either. The HiFi Center here in Vancouver, do carry some higher end products though, so I might give them a try -- wont have time until the reno is complete; hoping for the end of the month because I am dying to set up my KEFs. ** a side note: 800ds or 700s for surrounds, considering the dimensions of the room??

Any help/ideas/suggestions will be greatly valued. Thnx guys.

--K


Which sub

[BlairLoch]

I am running a with a Q100 / BK Gemini 2 setup at the moment.
I intend on buying a Q200c Centre but I am looking for something cheap to fill in at rear. I was thinking 2 Kef Egg type speakers? Any Suggestions?

[Dav1dF]

A pair of 3005 satellites will do the job fine

[Obiit]

Originally Posted by BlairLoch

I am running a with a Q100 / BK Gemini 2 setup at the moment.
I intend on buying a Q200c Centre but I am looking for something cheap to fill in at rear. I was thinking 2 Kef Egg type speakers? Any Suggestions?

What Dav1dF said

[BlairLoch]

Thanks guys... Now to track down some second hand, looks like I'm going to have to pay fill wack for the 200c though

[pistolpete1]

Defo recommend the eggs for the rear duties!!! (see signature below...)

[uzzie]

hi guys, proud new owner of a pair of q900s, courtesy of 20MegaHertz.

i will hopefully be adding q600c shortly, and later down the line set of rears and a sub fir 5.1 setup.

any recommedations on a decent av amp to runn the q900. how would an onkyo 809/905 pair with them.

im tempted by the marantz sr6006 due to its price point and feature set.

cheers

[jacson32]

Hey guys...great thread going on here...
I have just read all posts from KEF Q Series and have some questions about my next upgrade...my use here is like 70% music (multichannel) and 30% movies

I have a 3.50m X 3.50 room like in this pic:
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http://img153.***************/img.ph..._122_367lo.jpg

My current setup is 4x infinity primus 162 (FR/FL/SR/SL), a PC 351 center and a SVS PB12-NSD.
Space between FL and FR speakers are 2.00m (stands). Same for surround speakers, that are located above the couch (shelfs, close to the back wall).

I wanna all speakers drives to have the same size, and since i´m covered in the lows freqs, and that room is really small, i can´t decide between a 4x Q100/Q200c set or a 4x Q300/Q600c set.

Would the Q300/Q600c set be overkill for my room size?
Speakers will be powered by a Marantz 7500.
I´m almost decided to go with KEF but others choices in my region are a Polk RTi A1/ CSi A4 set or MA RX1/RXCenter.

Any advice?
Thanks for any help and sorry for my poor english.

[lega]

yes i think that Q300 is overkill in that room

i was in same position like u when i did demo speakers in my room 3*4m i demo MA rx1, kef Q300 and 100 , and i take Q100 because other speakers had too much bass for my small room

so what would i do if i had ur budget is to buy just 2 good speakers KEF R100 sell woffer and reciver and buy some good 2 channel amp or if u wanna have 4.1 then 2 KEF Q100 + Q200
and some kef eggs for back maybe .
and finnaly u can buy 2 kef Q100 and put rest of the money for some basstraps and u will be ok
but i would go for R100 and good amp
hope this helps

[Naish]

Guys/Gals,

I’ve been looking over your forum and you all seem like a very well informed bunch and I have a question that I don’t believe that anyone has talked about yet.
I would like to move from a stereo only setup in my lounge to a 5.1 setup and would like a recommendation for center and surround speakers. I have a pair of Kef 104/2 (pre Uni-Q) that will remain as the mains in the system. I realize that this is not ideal but wondered if I should consider something in the Q or new R range from Kef. I guess the real question is what might sound best with the 104/2’s?

The room is 15’x25’, 8’ ceilings. The power will be a Marantz SR7005.

On a side note the Marantz unit is only a few months old and it sounds great with the 104/2’s.

Thanks for your input,

Naish

[bru87tr]

Could I ask some help from some forum members who own the Q900 speakers ?

I recently purchased a used set with a bum driver. I noticed when checking it out the passive radiators have more of a modern rubber surround found on most drivers today. But my UniQ drivers and "Active" woofer drivers have more of a weak old school foam surround. Can anyone check theirs and see if they have the same setup ? These speakers now have me wondering what is going on.

I ordered some replacement woofers to fix these and the new ones came with rubber foam surrounds just like the passive radiators. I thought this was very odd and maybe they changed over to rubber at some point.

Anyone who can check their speakers I would really appreciate it so I can put my curiosity to rest that someone re-foamed these at some point or something. Very odd.

[Jules]

No need to check, all the drivers should have a rubber surround.

KEF don't use foam surrounds on any of their drivers in the Q series... And for good reason as they perish within a few years.

Unfrtunately, it sounds like you may well have been scammed.

[bru87tr]

Originally Posted by Jules

No need to check, all the drivers should have a rubber surround.

KEF don't use foam surrounds on any of their drivers in the Q series... And for good reason as they perish within a few years.

Unfrtunately, it sounds like you may well have been scammed.

Well I seen uncola's pics above and his look like mine. His LF drivers have a dull looking surround like mine and his passive radiators are a shiney rubber like mine. Hard to tell with the UniQ drivers though.

I did see a post from Jacko who said this...

"aerated foam surrounds" - as, for example, used on the Q series 8 inch LF driver in the Q900.

In this thread...

pointless ideas and inventions??

So I am totally confused.

[Dav1dF]

If I recall correctly, the material for the roll surround on the driven LF driver is different to the roll surround of the passive radiators. The radiators have a stiffer surround, whereas the LF driver uses a thinner, lighter surround. None are foam though.

[bru87tr]

Originally Posted by Dav1dF

If I recall correctly, the material for the roll surround on the driven LF driver is different to the roll surround of the passive radiators. The radiators have a stiffer surround, whereas the LF driver uses a thinner, lighter surround. None are foam though.

David,

Thanks for confirming and from the looks of uncloa's pics you are correct. They sure feel like foam to me but a bit different and very sensitive, not very firm. But definitley not rubber like the passive radiators. They look to be treated but was very suprised to see such a weak foam on these and made me wonder why they would use this weak surround.

Now I am wondering what KEF sent me as these LF drivers have the same rubber surround as the passive radiators and I don't want the sound and LF response to change as the surround will be a lot stiffer.

I emailed KEF to see what they have to say, they have been great in helping me get these fixed.

I compared both drivers and they are exactly the same with the same model numbers, they both have a serial# sticker and look identical in everyway except for the surrounds. This is why I wondered if they at some point changed to rubber cause of failure or something. It is strange both of the LF driver in these speakers are defective and have VC rub.

I have a lot of experience in re-foaming and these don't look to be and why would someone do that ? They would be too new to re-foam and shouldn't have to be.

Just seems to be an odd situation and some inconsistencies all around. I just want these speakers to be right and not be sinking more money into them than I bought them for.

Ralph

[Dav1dF]

As I say, the driven bass driver uses a thinner, more responsive rubber for roll surround - the passive radiators use a thicker, stiffer roll surround. KEF haven't used foam for many years, as far as I'm aware, and it's not really a material that is used very much at all nowadays. I would take some pics and email them to KEF for confirmation.

[bru87tr]

Originally Posted by Jules

No need to check, all the drivers should have a rubber surround.

KEF don't use foam surrounds on any of their drivers in the Q series... And for good reason as they perish within a few years.

Unfrtunately, it sounds like you may well have been scammed.

Well if my friend and I were scammed, it was from Onecall cause that is where these speakers came from.

[Dav1dF]

Originally Posted by bru87tr

Well if my friend and I were scammed, it was from Onecall cause that is where these speakers came from.

I think the first port of call would be KEF, and ask them to confirm if they're an authorised dealer, and for them to investigate. As I mentioned, I would ask KEF for a specific person to deal with so that you can email them some photos to get the ball rolling.

[bru87tr]

I am already in touch with them and have done exactly that.

[bru87tr]

As it turns out, the first run drivers had the thiner more foam like surround and down the road they replaced the surround with the rubber type exactly like the passive radiator to improve performance.

[Dav1dF]

That must've been very early then, as we never saw those in the UK.

[GPinNYC]

Realizing that this is the Kef thread, I will just point at that I'm debating a few Definitive speakers vs Kef or even mix and match and looking for advice.

I have a legacy 2 channel system with Vandersteen series 2 speakers that I can surely use for great audio but wondering if they could be incorporated into my surround set up so as to put more cash into the center, sub and surrounds.

I've got a Denon 3313 en route.

For the Kefs, it was Q or R series 100 or 200 KHT 6000 or Q200C and saw a great deal on an Htb2 and wondering if wireless is good and moreover, will that be a nice addition to the vandersteens in terms of musical low end?

Thinking Def Supercube 4000 , CD 8040 HD and a few Studio Monitors (or 4 if people tell me the Vandersteen idea is really bad). I can go up a bit in budget but I will say my room is only 10x12 ish (NYC apartment) and I'm much more of a music guy than a surround sound (tend to watch foreign and Indie flicks moreso)

Any direction in terms of what I would gain by going up or what I might save...greatly appreciated.