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Old 24-08-2008, 3:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Samsung box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

I've got a Samsung HD box which I've just fitted a WD10EACS 1TB drive to, and within the first hour the box has turned itself off 4 times. I followed the instructions from Copy+ and all my recordings are there, but this problem is annoying me. Can someone advise me as to what's wrong please?

Pretty please!!!!!

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Old 24-08-2008, 4:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

Anyone?
It literally won't stay on for 5 mins!!

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Old 24-08-2008, 4:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

I thought it was just happening when recording 2 channels.
But NOPE. It turns off just when WATCHING a single channel?
Come on, where are the tech-heads?
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Old 24-08-2008, 6:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

Looks like 74 people have no idea.
Put the original drive back in and it's fine again.
Has anyone, or do you know of anyone, that has successfully done the 1 TB upgrade on the Samsung box, and if so what drive was used?
Think I'll give the Samsung Spinpoint a try. You'd think they make their own drives work with their box.
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Old 24-08-2008, 7:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

Faulty new Harddisks are not unheard of ? but it may be a Hardware issue in the Samsung its difficult to say without more Samsung owners reporting to the forum, it would be intersting to see some pics of the Internals externals of the New Samsung HD Box if you look at the thread below you will see pics I posted of the New Pace HD Box we can see what differences if any there are between the two.


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Old 24-08-2008, 7:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Faulty new Harddisks are not unheard of ? but it may be a Hardware issue in the Samsung its difficult to say without more Samsung owners reporting to the forum, it would be intersting to see some pics of the Internals externals of the New Samsung HD Box if you look at the thread below you will see pics I posted of the New Pace HD Box we can see what differences if any there are between the two.


http://www.avforums.com/forums/showt...05#post7590005

Thank you for the reply. I'm going out now, but will post internal pics tomorrow.
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Old 24-08-2008, 7:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

What I will say now though is that the hard drive is in a totally different place. More like in the centre of the box, mounted on top of the mainboard.
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Old 25-08-2008, 12:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

Pics in this thread:
Inside Samsung HD box pics.

Seems to be working now with the Samsung 1TB Spinpoint.
Got a feeling the Samsung box doesn't like the variable speed of the WD.
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Seems to be working now with the Samsung 1TB Spinpoint.
Got a feeling the Samsung box doesn't like the variable speed of the WD.
I've just had the same experience with the WD drive. However, a 400GB Hitachi drive also played up in the same way.

How is your Samsung 1TB Spinpoint running now?

Would you mind letting me know what exact model is it? Thanks!

Maybe this is a major problem with Samsung HDSKY boxes ...
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

I've upgraded my Samsung SkyHD to a Samsung f1 1TB drive and it's been fine over the last 2 weeks.

Edit: Model... Samsung Spin Point F1 1TB Internal SATA Hard Drive HD103UJ (£74.00 delivered from amazon)

HTH.

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I've upgraded my Samsung SkyHD to a Samsung f1 1TB drive and it's been fine over the last 2 weeks.

HTH.
Thanks a lot.

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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

I installed the 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ drive today and so far all is good

In case anyone is interested I bought it from aria.co.uk for £64.57 inc VAT, Quickcode: #30998
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I installed the 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ drive today and so far all is good

In case anyone is interested I bought it from aria.co.uk for £64.57 inc VAT, Quickcode: #30998
Sorry about the slow response. I got my drive from Aria too as I live nearby, but when I got it, it was £90 quid!! I find it's not the quietest drive around, and it does still turn itself off every week or so. But overall it's been great.
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Re: Box keeps turning off after 1 TB upgrade?

It does sound as though the Samsung boxes have a less resilient power supply in them. Inside, they look virtually the same as the Thomson boxes; the Pace is a very different design with the hard disk in a separate compartment (positioned where the PSU is on the S/T boxes). I've been running about 3 weeks with a WD drive in my Pace box and it's been faultless (oh god, my big mouth, it'll no doubt fail now!).
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It does sound as though the Samsung boxes have a less resilient power supply in them.
If you look at the specs. on the top of the drive fitted by Sky:
300GB Seagate DB35.3: +5v 0.72A, +12v 0.52A

Whereas the replacement drives that didn't work are:
1TB Western Digital WD10EACS: +5v 0.70A, +12v 0.55A
400GB Hitachi HDS724040KLSA80: +5v 0.78A, +12v 0.98A

and the one that does work is:
1TB Samsung HD103UJ: +5v 0.70A, +12v 0.50A

So maybe the issue is the 12v power consumption?

My hunch is that any drive which consumes more than 0.52A current at +12v is likely to fail.

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