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Sky builds on broadband growth with increased coverage, 10,000 WiFi hotspots and new fibre launch

Adding choice with Sky Broadband Unlimited Fibre: Sky is to give customers even more choice by adding a fibre broadband product to its range from April. For £20 a month, customers will be able to access download speeds of up to 40 megabits with a totally unlimited product that has no usage caps. From launch the new product will be available to around 30% of UK homes, growing over time in line with BT’s fibre roll-out programme.

[jamesrt2004]

slow compared to BT :/

[beerhunter]

Originally Posted by jamesrt2004

slow compared to BT :/

Actually, for that technology (FTTC/VDSL), it is exactly the same as BT. BT will however offer 80 Mb/s real soon now.

[wormvortex]

bet that will eat into BT's share with infinity. Only reason they had so many customers probably was sky and the like not offering it. You know sky will bundle it with TV and be onto a winner. What can BT do offer Vision lol

[D'@ve]

Only 2Mbps upload speed apparently, but unlimited downloads, so in between the two existing BT Infinity products. More consumer choice therefore, which is a good thing if you don't mind being locked into Sky TV + phone line and paying much the same over 18 months as for BT Infinity Unlimited + phone line (including the Sky installation charge). With the minimum Sky TV subscription on top that's nearly £60 a month if you have an unlimited phone package.

Not very impressive really (slow uploads and no speeds increase promised), Sky TV customers have to pay £12.50 extra a month compared to Sky BB Unlimited.

[QBSBuck]

I didn't follow your breakdown there bud.

How much would sky "infinity" + line rental cost in addition to SKY TV compared to BT "infinity" + line rental

[markmc2k9]

Amazing news. It has been a long time coming. First day signup for me.

[D'@ve]

Originally Posted by QBSBuck

I didn't follow your breakdown there bud.

How much would sky "infinity" + line rental cost in addition to SKY TV compared to BT "infinity" + line rental

Sky FTTC Unlimited 40/2 and no traffic management + mandatory Sky TV

£37.25 a month (+ mandatory Sky TV) with unlimited calls (£50 to install so monthly equivalent £40.52 over 18 months, a bit more over 12 months)

BT Infinity Unlimited 40/10 with 'P2P' and 'films priority' management

£39.90 a month with unlimited calls (monthly equivalent based on £10 a month line rental, if paid a year up front). Equivalent to £39.40 a month allowing for the modem delivery charge and 3 months discount.

A bit complicated, different products for different target markets I think and no obvious best deal that will suit everyone.

[QBSBuck]

Not horrific, given I have SKY TV anyhow. But to a non subscriber a different proposition.

[406lx]

Shame the upload is only 2, I hope they offer another package that competes with the 80/20 BT will be rolling out soon.

[D'@ve]

They are probably worried about over-use by Torrent freaks, who would gobble up the extra upload bandwidth and they'd have to introduce traffic shaping like BT and VM.

They may have to anyway, eventually, but you wouldn't expect them to announce that at this stage.

[Zed_X]

So bottom line, how much is it per month for the cheapest TV pack, the cheapest phone pack, plus Sky fibre optic ?

[D'@ve]

£19.50 more than the figure I posted above, about £60/monthly equivalent.

[BOUMSONG]

How can you check if your area will be covered? I won't hold my breath as my local exchange only allows about 10/11 mb/s dsl speeds and we seem to be the last to get anything.

Is there anything I could do to get a better connection or am I stuck with what my exchange allows? I can pm someone roughly where I live if that would help

[Zed_X]

Originally Posted by BOUMSONG

How can you check if your area will be covered? I won't hold my breath as my local exchange only allows about 10/11 mb/s dsl speeds and we seem to be the last to get anything.

Is there anything I could do to get a better connection or am I stuck with what my exchange allows? I can pm someone roughly where I live if that would help

I was only getting around 12 Mbit/sec down on my ADSLconnection but on BT Infinity FTTC I get 38 Mbit/sec down. Your speeds will depend on the distance from your home to the fibre cabinet in your street (if you have one), check here for FTTC samknows or https://www.btwholesale.com/includes/adsl/main.html If your good for BT Infinity you should also be good for Sky fibre optic when it rolls out

[Carlow]

Sky Fibre will depend if sky have LLU equipment in your exchange, basicly if you can get "sky Unlimited Broadband" Currently, your'll be able to get Sky Fibre, but if you can only get Sky Connected your out of luck, til sky places LLU equipment in your exchange.

Sky Fibre Broadband - FAQ <-- may Answer afew more questions people have

also bare in mind that offcom have recently told BT to lower the prices it charges to use it lines by about £3-5 a month depending on type, BT can appeal and prob will.( BBC News - Ofcom proposes Openreach broadband and phone price cut )

would suspect 80/20 will come out for Sky and other ISP's, maybe a different package but "unlimted" has always been skys highest/best package, it's just a wait and see thing

[beerhunter]

Originally Posted by Carlow

also bare in mind that offcom have recently told BT to lower the prices it charges to use it lines by about £3-5 a month depending on type, BT can appeal and prob will.( BBC News - Ofcom proposes Openreach broadband and phone price cut ))

Last time ofcom ordered a cut in charges, Sky appear to have simply pocketed the cash, rather than improve the performance of Sky Connect by buying more bandwidth for the same money.

[VillanUK]

Well fingers crossed they roll it out in my area,,,,

[deathtrap3000]

Wonder what sort of job they are going to get the installers to do. With bt they want the engineer to do everything ie run new cables if necessary, and install the router and get it working on the customers pc. With plusnet all they want is the cabling if necessary and to plug the modem in thats it, everything else the customer has to do, which can sometimes be hard for them to do. Cant remember what talktalk want. I wonder if sky will be similar to plusnet.

[wormvortex]

Don't see why BT want openreach to set up the router. An by set up I mean plug it in and turn it on lol and maybe scan for the wireless. (I know business hub is different) but with ADSL you don't get any of this it comes in the post and you plug it in at the ed of the day it's no different at all.

[beerhunter]

Originally Posted by wormvortex

Don't see why BT want openreach to set up the router.

BT ADSL was engineer-install in the early days and then went to self-install.

[buckle247]

Originally Posted by deathtrap3000

Wonder what sort of job they are going to get the installers to do.

Guess it will depend if the customer wants to pay extra for it. Like with Plusnet and TT. Sometimes they have a managed install, sometimes they don't.

Looks like Sky has already gone live. Using a silver Sagem router. Job had a home wiring solution, but no managed install on it. Although the router is very easy to set up, but like TT, you end up losing a LAN port. However it doesn't matter which of the 4 LAN ports you connect to the OR modem.

[dizzydjc]

I got a phone call from Sky today, offering this earlier as I signed up on that fibre optic trial thing last year.

Now they're offering it to me with £20 per month for the broadband, and the £50 installation fee but apparently i'm getting a free router upgrade to support the high speed which apparently normally would cost an extra £35.

I've gone for it anyway, sick to death of only getting 100kbps speed, has anyone else got offered this?

[wormvortex]

Originally Posted by beerhunter

BT ADSL was engineer-install in the early days and then went to self-install.

Ah didn't know that. I always had cable broadband up until this year when I moved.

[Coximus Prime]

Just signed on the dotted line. Was a no brainer after getting a max 3.5mb speed.

Signed up for an additional £12.50 a month (already pay £7.50 for unlimited), free installation, free wireless N router.

Agent also said they can move my master socket to the living room or fit a fibre optic extension kit free of charge. This is great news for me as when I moved the router to my living room I was lucky to pick up 1mb.

Have an 8 day cancellation period incase speeds are nowhere near what they are advising...40mb!!!

[malford]

Same as above £12.50 per month and it gets installed on the 15th March...

[Coximus Prime]

Originally Posted by malford

Same as above £12.50 per month and it gets installed on the 15th March...

Nice. My engineer is booked in for the 6th March so will report how the install goes.

[wormvortex]

Originally Posted by Coxy82

Just signed on the dotted line. Was a no brainer after getting a max 3.5mb speed.

Signed up for an additional £12.50 a month (already pay £7.50 for unlimited), free installation, free wireless N router.

Agent also said they can move my master socket to the living room or fit a fibre optic extension kit free of charge. This is great news for me as when I moved the router to my living room I was lucky to pick up 1mb.

Have an 8 day cancellation period incase speeds are nowhere near what they are advising...40mb!!!

It's just a normal copper extention. It's only fibre to the cab.

[skhan786]

Finally sky will be offering fiber optics

[WorldUK]

How do you guys already get Sky fiber?
Just that i am on a average 3mb broadband unlimited with sky, and BT sayd they will start offering Infinity in my area from 15-th of March.
Could i get Sky order same time or need to wait for April?