[proux]

I wonder if anyone has any first hand or legal experience in this matter.

I live in a massive block of flats, where the managing company flatly refuses individual satellite dish installation for "aesthetic" reasons. They are allegedly looking for installation of a shared dish for Sky in the roof, but claim that it is difficult, expensive, etc. Ideally I would like my own dish to receive international channels of my choice, but would settle for Sky.

There is actually a European Commission ruling showing they have no right to prohibit access to satellite TV, but obviously getting to the European Court might be a bit time-consuming and expensive! (I am happy to email the document to anyone)

This must be a common problem, how do others get round it?

[bazovcarlisle]

i think sky can set up a sharing facility into blocks of flats i would have a look on their website for more details

[proux]

Thanks, they are allegedely looking into it, but claim it is too expensive to pursue...

[SamRadford]

It usually costs £150+ per dwelling. All they need do is get agreements from enough tenants to cover the total cost.

[Toasty]

I believe I've seen sky adverts touting at least 4 people to sign up to make it a gower.

[Oggie]

have the same problem mate, i feel for you !!

[proux]

Thanks guys, the problem is that the standard option is for up to 48 flats and 3 floors, my block is more than twice as big which makes it more expensive and requires 3 dishes, which those *£"#$%^ managing agents are not allowing.

Anyone tried to explore the legal avenue in a similar situation?

[fluff34567]

do you have any form of balcony?? you could try the super mini dishes?? i cant remember the name but they are about 30cm and have the LNB built into the centre of the dish.

[davemurgatroyd2]

Originally Posted by fluff34567

do you have any form of balcony?? you could try the super mini dishes?? i cant remember the name but they are about 30cm and have the LNB built into the centre of the dish.

You mean the Multimo, here
http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/page17.htm#multimo

40cm in diameter so only just smaller than a Sky minidish in diameter

[rcaudwell]

Do you have any windows facing the right direction, I got sky successfully through a non double glazed window with 60cm dish for a while - obviously signal quality suffers and not the most aesthetic of solution, but might work.

again yu need the permission of the landlord. i cant see its worth the aggro of haveing the dish inside.

[proux]

Thanks again to all, I think an indoor dish is too much of a hassle in my relatively small flat, although the Multimo is tempting.

The balcony idea is something I thought of, but a tiny balcony that I have access to is specifically stated in my lease to belong to the landlord, not me ! I could put the dish out and see if anyone notices, but at some point some idiotic neighbour is bound to report me.

[Omega]

Sorry to hear that. I've got a Sky dish feed into my flat but that was only because the agents were having so much trouble with people putting up dishes without permission they finally caved in and paid for a communal dish to be put up.

Any dish permanently fixed to the building even your balcony is likely to be in contravention of lease regulations etc so they could ask you to remove it. If you know what you're doing you could probably mount it on a portable pole stand or something... but you'd need to know you're facing in the right direction for the satellite. If it's round the other side of the building you're not going to get any signal.

do you know if HD sky is still available in blocks of flats? I am moving into a modern development, built in 2000.

[proux]

Originally Posted by Omega

I've got a Sky dish feed into my flat but that was only because the agents were having so much trouble with people putting up dishes without permission they finally caved in and paid for a communal dish to be put up.

Any dish permanently fixed to the building even your balcony is likely to be in contravention of lease regulations etc so they could ask you to remove it. If you know what you're doing you could probably mount it on a portable pole stand or something... but you'd need to know you're facing in the right direction for the satellite. If it's round the other side of the building you're not going to get any signal.

I wish my neighbours were like yours! Nobody here seems prepared to stand up to the managing agents. They are meant to be getting new quotes, if nothing happens I may look into directions etc, thanks

[lynx]

Have you considered something such as an LX2000?

http://cpc.farnell.com/SE00465/aeria...equestid=57868

[lloydsmart]

I have a similar problem. My block actually has a communal dish that works great, but I have Sky+ (actually about to upgrade to HD), so I need two feeds, which I can't get. These portable dishes look nice, but a bit expensive. Any more ideas?

[proux]

Originally Posted by lynx

Have you considered something such as an LX2000?

http://cpc.farnell.com/SE00465/aeria...equestid=57868

I'll keep it in mind, thanks, although still probably wouldnt get away with it for long!

Waiting for the possibility of a communal dish after a new survey by sky again...

[proux]

Originally Posted by lloydsmart

. My block actually has a communal dish that works great

Lucky you! Let's see if our horrible managament company and inept residents association finally sort one out...

[joncycle]

http://cpc.farnell.com/SE00590/aeria...BRANDED-488110

?

[johnhorsley5]

Dear Proux,
Please would you send me a copy or a link to the Eu Commission document you referred to about not being able to ban access to Satellite TV.
John

[johnhorsley5]

Would you send me a copy of the document, or a link
John

Originally Posted by proux

I wonder if anyone has any first hand or legal experience in this matter.

I live in a massive block of flats, where the managing company flatly refuses individual satellite dish installation for "aesthetic" reasons. They are allegedly looking for installation of a shared dish for Sky in the roof, but claim that it is difficult, expensive, etc. Ideally I would like my own dish to receive international channels of my choice, but would settle for Sky.

There is actually a European Commission ruling showing they have no right to prohibit access to satellite TV, but obviously getting to the European Court might be a bit time-consuming and expensive! (I am happy to email the document to anyone)

This must be a common problem, how do others get round it?

[logiciel]

Welcome to AVF.
Proux is still around but may not be looking into this sub-forum for old threads.

[johnhorsley5]

Thanks, do you have a way to contact him for me?

[fernandez]

Originally Posted by johnhorsley5

Thanks, do you have a way to contact him for me?

If you're able to, use the PM system.
Click on his name and choose the option "Send a private message"

[davemurgatroyd2]

Originally Posted by johnhorsley5

Dear Proux,
Please would you send me a copy or a link to the Eu Commission document you referred to about not being able to ban access to Satellite TV.
John

The EU directive he is referring to is the "Television sans frontieres" ( see here - http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l24101_en.htm) and the main problem is that EU directive only stops blocking of FTA transmissions - it also has provisos giving owners of properties and local authorities (via planning regulations etc) the rights to limit the number (total 2 on any one building in the UK) or totally forbid or restrict their siting (in conservation areas or on listed buildings. So many people misquote these directives as giving anyone the right to install a dish anywhere which they do not.

So basically there is no regulation or directive EU or UK that gives anyone the absolute right to install a satellite dish permanently affixed to any building without permission from the owner of the building and the local council if planning permission is required. With DSO approaching completion across the UK over the next year or so councils will more than likely start applying the planning permission requirements more strictly.

[johnhorsley5]

Thanks, If he had a PM option I would not have asked the question

Originally Posted by fernandez

If you're able to, use the PM system.
Click on his name and choose the option "Send a private message"

[logiciel]

My answer to the question would have been the same "if you're able to" - we don't know that.
Try looking at his profile to see what other Contact Info he has, if any.

[fernandez]

Originally Posted by johnhorsley5

Thanks, If he had a PM option I would not have asked the question

But he has (see attached) however you may not have enough privileges yet hence the "if"

[proux]

hello, i think the question has been answered, and I can't find the document anyway as it was too long ago. I remember that some restrictions were mentioned, but my feel was that it was very much supportive of everyone's right to information

BTW I do receive pm's, as long as the sender is allowed to send them as already mentioned