[imacken]

Further to my earlier thread about how I can connect my Sky+ box to a component input on my amp, I tried getting a cable which the supplier insisted would work in the SCART to Component direction - it didn't!
There are so many people advertising SCART to Component adaptor cables out there, e.g.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2M-ATLONA-SCAR...QQcmdZViewItem
Can they all be wrong? Can such a thing exist? (I'm talking about a cable, not about a £80 convertor.)

[philipb]

They'll only work if the scart socket is outputting YUV, which very few do. The Sky+ box does not. You will need a converter.

[Joe Fernand]

Hello imacken

You can ask the same question 100 times and with this one you should get the same answer every time

Your SKY+ box has three options for Video out:

01. Composite video on SCART (SKY call it PAL in the set up menu).

02. S-Video on a 4pin Mini Din

03. RGB on SCART.

NONE of these are compatible with a YPbPr 'Component' Video Input on an AV Receiver or Display.

If SKY gave you the option of YPbPr 'Component' Out on SCART then a SCART to 3RCA cable would work - but seeing as they don't it wont.

You require an RGB2YUV converter somewhere in your system to interface SKY or SKY+ with a 3RCA 'Component' Input on an AV Receiver or Display.

The best option being the JS Technology converters - see http://www.js-technology.com - there are guides on the JS web site explain RGB to YUV (YPbPr) conversion in detail.

Best regards

Joe

[imacken]

Another little question!
I've tried a converter and it doesn't do the video mode switching, i.e. widescreen to 4:3 etc. I guess this is because that signal comes from the SCART. The question is, will the Sky HD box have some method of switching the video mode via component (I guess not) or HDMI?

[Joe Fernand]

Hello imacken

The SCART Output does carry the required trigger - the problem being its not carried forward on the YPbPr 'Component' signal.

There is a box you can insert between the SCART RGB Output of the SKY box and the RGB2YUV converter and if your Display is covered in the list of 'compatible' devices you can retain Aspect Ratio Control (ARC) - see http://www.multi-region.co.uk/produc...roducts_id=679

YPbPr from SKY HD is unlikely to control ARC though HDMI is.

Best regards

Joe

[imacken]

Thanks a lot for that. I'm going to stick with changing the AV input on the TV! Damn cheaper than the £200 needed to get the Component thing working! (£80 for converter, £100 for Aspect ratio control, £20 for component cable!)

[samjet]

Originally Posted by imacken

Thanks a lot for that. I'm going to stick with changing the AV input on the TV! Damn cheaper than the £200 needed to get the Component thing working! (£80 for converter, £100 for Aspect ratio control, £20 for component cable!)

as joe quite correctly points out there is no shortcut - everything in the av world comes at a price - just that some things are more expensive than others

i use the js converter route and would whole heartedly recommend it for optimum picture quality

btw the js converter is £145

and if cost is a factor - forget about sky HD at the moment - but it will at least meet some of your requirements in that the 'first' boxes will have rgb component output - but at circa £400 do you want to go this route??

[Joe Fernand]

Hello imacken

Still cheaper than a Subscription to your local Gym Club

Best regards

Joe

[samjet]

Originally Posted by Joe Fernand

Hello imacken

Still cheaper than a Subscription to your local Gym Club

Best regards

Joe

you are a wag

[huntere]

Originally Posted by imacken

I'm going to stick with changing the AV input on the TV! Damn cheaper than the £200 needed to get the Component thing working!

I had same problem so spent £50 on Harmony 525 and hey presto - one button switching!

[imacken]

Can the Harmony 525 switch the receiver mode and TV AV input together in one press?

[huntere]

Yep it sure can.

Harmony's premise is setting up "activities"

i.e.

Watch Sky......

Swicthes on Sky box
Swicthes on AV
Swicthes AV to correct input
Swicthes on TV
Swicthes to TV to correct input.

Then you can watch DVD etc.

Loads of info in Remotes forum

[cartmin]

Sorry to semi hi-jack the thread but as a prospective buyer of a Yam 757 with view of video switching for sky amongst other sources ......would there be any issues using the s-video out straight into the amp rather than go thru the scart rgb route via converter ?

If my thinking is correct the amp would then convert s-video to component ( not from a signal type point of view but from a connectivity view )

Cartmin

[huntere]

Yes that will work but........

Popular thinking (knowledge) is RGB/Component is better PQ than S-vid

[imacken]

Originally Posted by cartmin

Sorry to semi hi-jack the thread but as a prospective buyer of a Yam 757 with view of video switching for sky amongst other sources ......would there be any issues using the s-video out straight into the amp rather than go thru the scart rgb route via converter ?

If my thinking is correct the amp would then convert s-video to component ( not from a signal type point of view but from a connectivity view )

Cartmin

Are you talking about connecting the Sky s-vid to a component or s-vid input on your amp?
If it's to component, have you seen a s-vid to component cable?
If it's s-vid, then I thought that all inputs to the amp had to be the same format for it to do video switching.

[huntere]

The 757 can convert S-vid input to component output.

[imacken]

Pity my 357 can't! Can you get s-vid to component cables?

[huntere]

S-vid to Component cable?

Nope

[cartmin]

My understanding is that you just use a s-vid to s vid from sky to amp and then send the converted ( note ...not up-converted signal ) out of the amp via component to component ( for example projector ) whilst using the s-vid out of the amp to go to tv ...thus effectively giving you the chance to send sky to either display ?

I hope ....lol

Cartmin