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Old 23-07-2012, 8:52 PM   #61
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Google is your friend.

Download and FTP the Ipk file to var/tmp.

Green button, yellow button and then manual install Ipk package.

TS Panel will then reside in your plugins.
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Old 23-07-2012, 9:18 PM   #62
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Google is your friend.

Download and FTP the Ipk file to var/tmp.

Green button, yellow button and then manual install Ipk package.

TS Panel will then reside in your plugins.
will google away, ta
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Old 24-07-2012, 3:01 PM   #63
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VU+ support is not as it should be

Please also take in consideration the company / brand support you get from the manufacturer after you purchased the device.

My VU+ Duo died after 2.5 years, the HDMI port stopped working and the company behind VU+, Ceru trading, does not respond to any message you send them.

As the name already says, they only do trading, nothing more.

Now I am stuck with a nice network enabled duo slot cardreader with blazing fast 400Mhz broadcom processor for running your OScam/CCcam

Well respected companies also offer service after the initial purchase, otherwise its your last purchase from that company.
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Old 25-07-2012, 12:21 AM   #64
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Please let me know what you think of the box once it comes?
Where did you buy from?

Really thinking of selling my DM8000 and trying one of these
As you know I've also got an 8k but lately been getting a bit peed off with DMM with their new OE2 which stopped crossepg working etc, so I ordered an Ultimo to see what the all the fuss is about and like you if I liked it I'd sell the 8000.

First thing that disapointed me was only one sata port on the motherboard, unlike my 8k which has 3, I use an SSD for permanent timeshift so I had to bodge a cable out under the lid to the esata port. Also the remote range is very poor, unless you're directly in front of it so I hade no choice but to buy the VU universal remote.

Another disapointment for me was the PiP only works on SD if you try it with HD the picture just freezes and jerks, at first I thought it was the image but I literally tried every image and it was the same on all then I read somewhere that PiP will only work properly with SD channels.

As I said I tried all images out there and finally settled on Black Pole as I considered it the best of the bunch but even then imo the images just don't seem as mature as they are for the DM box.

I lived with it for as my every day box for 3 weeks but in the end it I just couldn't get to love it if you know what I mean.

Don't get me wrong this is a nice box and if you've never owned an 8k I'm sure most ppl would be more than happy with it but if you have previously owned the 8k like me then it does imo fall short.

In the end I went back to the 8k, loaded on the not much talked about superb Nemesis image and fell in love with my 8k all over again.

So my advice to you m8 is to try an Ultimo before you sell your 8k.
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Old 25-07-2012, 1:11 PM   #65
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The Xtrend is a good machine and being based off the same Broadcom chipset is good.

I think what the VU range has over everyone else is the support. Black Hole walked away from Dream and went 100% with VU.

As for the DM8000, great machine, over priced certainly and it's out of production now. Goliath is where Dream are headed now. Nemesis may hold nostaligia but images evolve and do move on. DM800HDSE and 7020HD remain current for the time being.

As for the Ultimo, it's barely 6 months old and support is already phenomenal. I've never heard of it being unresponsive as it has to be one the quickest receivers on the market by a long chalk.

The DM8000 might have 3 esata ports on the m/board but then it doesn't have loop through on each of its tuners which the Ultimo does.

Dream are great but they have been beaten somewhat at their own game by VU now. £ for £ VU outpunches Dream on every model.

At the end of the day every receiver has +/- points and it's a balance of what suits you.

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Old 25-07-2012, 1:20 PM   #66
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My VU+ Duo died after 2.5 years, the HDMI port stopped working and the company behind VU+, Ceru trading, does not respond to any message you send them.

As the name already says, they only do trading, nothing more.
Have you approached the shop where you bought it from ? As long as they are reputable, they should know the appropriate channels in helping in how to get it repaired.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:32 PM   #67
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Anyone having problems with some of the channels on their VU+ Ultimo? I am having problems with Canal + Film HD on Cyfra and PL 10e, the picture is just awful, the receiver says I am getting 85% sig quality. I even took my sat meter to double check the dish alignment, all seems well. I took my spirit level to see if all is good and yes it is. I am thinking tuner is weak!!!
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I had similar problems with the Ultimo on 13° east it broke up on higher frequency transponders even though snr was around the 80% mark, Its well documented on the Vu Community website but seems to get brushed aside as not a problem with any image or drivers but user error.
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Old 06-08-2012, 8:08 AM   #69
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Yeah it must be a problem. I can't even pick up MBC on 26E like I used to on my old Octagon 1028P. I checked the drivers and updated them and also tried a different image and it is still struggling. U wud expect a box that price will nail those problems easy.
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Yeah it must be a problem. I can't even pick up MBC on 26E like I used to on my old Octagon 1028P. I checked the drivers and updated them and also tried a different image and it is still struggling. U wud expect a box that price will nail those problems easy.
What's the dish/ lnb & rough location.
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What dish and lnb are you using ? Ultimo pretty rock solid here, no breakup whatsoever on 26E and 13E issues are unheard of for me.

BH 1.7.6

MBC 26E Freq 11919 H Snr 38% Agc 59% BER 0

Calcio 2 HD 13E Freq 12418 V Snr 99% Agc 62% BER 0

Dreambox getting the same on MBC with no breakup either.

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What's the dish/ lnb & rough location.
Triax 1m. Lnb is inverto ultra lnb.
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What dish and lnb are you using ? Ultimo pretty rock solid here, no breakup whatsoever on 26E and 13E issues are unheard of for me.

BH 1.7.6

MBC 26E Freq 11919 H Snr 38% Agc 59% BER 0

Calcio 2 HD 13E Freq 12418 V Snr 99% Agc 62% BER 0

Dreambox getting the same on MBC with no breakup either.
Inverto ultra lnb. Triax 1m.
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Triax 1m. Lnb is inverto ultra lnb.

location ... just roughly
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location ... just roughly
High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. I forgot to mention earlier sorry
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High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. I forgot to mention earlier sorry
I installed a motorised to a VU+ Ultimo a few days ago in Manchester that did fine on 26e/ 7.3w etc.. & you 'should' do better on the MENA beams down there .. I've installed a lot of VUs to motorised, mainly the VU+Duos & they've all been pretty good ... they are not the most sensitive receivers like a Foxsat or TM5402 but they're not that far off.

What's wrong might be a limited hardware &/or sw issue on some genuine VUs as it's obviously not a universal problem... or I wonder if it could it be clones sold as genuine VUs.

where was it from
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There are no Ultimo Clones at present only Solo and Duo out of the Vu Range
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I installed a motorised to a VU+ Ultimo a few days ago in Manchester that did fine on 26e/ 7.3w etc.. & you 'should' do better on the MENA beams down there .. I've installed a lot of VUs to motorised, mainly the VU+Duos & they've all been pretty good ... they are not the most sensitive receivers like a Foxsat or TM5402 but they're not that far off.

What's wrong might be a limited hardware &/or sw issue on some genuine VUs as it's obviously not a universal problem... or I wonder if it could it be clones sold as genuine VUs.

where was it from
A online shop from Leicester, it has the English manual only. It might be hardware/software issue. I will try my Manhattan Plaza xt-cm and see how it fares on those satellites.
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There are no Ultimo Clones at present only Solo and Duo out of the Vu Range
I certainly hope so.
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I certainly hope so.
In this market, no one can say if there isn't some of that going on in any area or parts of products, the word 'clone' isn't the word here... bootlegs/ fake goods are rife everywhere- electrical goods, prescription drugs, clothing etc.. it's a big part of it to do your up most to make sure whatever you buy in comes from the most reliable source & is genuine. Slightly ironically buying a clone DM requires the same - making sure you get a good supplier - DM800 (clones) with the Alps tuners have been 'very' good on tuner sensitivity but I've heard people buying duff ones, obviously anyone can bash out a box & stick a label on it so even the clone market has that side to it, you can't really call them bootleg or fake clones .. just decent ones & not so good (but maybe fake alps tuners).

(btw.. if you are using a PC- unless it says IBM it's a ... )
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A valid point people often forget!
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There are certainly some grey Ultimo's out there coming through non-authorised channels.

As for the clone market it's pretty much as pedro says. It's either fake or not fake. You really don't know what you are buying. It can range from something almost akin to being a re-badged box right through to a box of complete garbage. Thankfully clone Dreamboxes are now being called by their OEM and technical names eg Sunray DR etc.

The VU Duo's clones you would have to ensure the internal connectors are correctly seated. They are also now known to have dodgy PSU's. Yes, there is already a supply of replacment PSU's on the market for the clones ! False economy for the price you think you save.

Getting back on topic, BH 1.7.6 does have updated tuner drivers so that maybe worth a try. Given the Ultimo has a number of tuners it may also be worthwhile trying via one of the others to see if you can isolate it to hardware? I'm not sure of your configuration so maybe worth trying chopping and changing if not done so before.

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There are certainly some grey Ultimo's out there coming through non-authorised channels.

As for the clone market it's pretty much as pedro says. It's either fake or not fake. You really don't know what you are buying. It can range from something almost akin to being a re-badged box right through to a box of complete garbage. Thankfully clone Dreamboxes are now being called by their OEM and technical names eg Sunray DR etc.

The VU Duo's clones you would have to ensure the internal connectors are correctly seated. They are also now known to have dodgy PSU's. Yes, there is already a supply of replacment PSU's on the market for the clones ! False economy for the price you think you save.

Getting back on topic, BH 1.7.6 does have updated tuner drivers so that maybe worth a try. Given the Ultimo has a number of tuners it may also be worthwhile trying via one of the others to see if you can isolate it to hardware? I'm not sure of your configuration so maybe worth trying chopping and changing if not done so before.
I will chop and change, I used BH 1.76 and updated drivers, unless I didn't use the very latest ones. I am using VIX now
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Does anyone know why the vu ultimo tuners break up on some HD channels despite having a decent signal quality. I'm having problems on hotbird. Canal Gol HD, Cinemax HD etc all break up but Nat Geo HD is excellent.
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Does anyone know why the vu ultimo tuners break up on some HD channels despite having a decent signal quality. I'm having problems on hotbird. Canal Gol HD, Cinemax HD etc all break up but Nat Geo HD is excellent.
I had the exact same problem until i sold my Ultimo for this very reason, I got an Uno instead and this never showed the same symptons, Have you upgraded the FPGA to 4.5 available from the Blackhole Plugins that should cure it.
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I had the exact same problem until i sold my Ultimo for this very reason, I got an Uno instead and this never showed the same symptons, Have you upgraded the FPGA to 4.5 available from the Blackhole Plugins that should cure it.
did u get good money for it? I am starting to get fed up especially spending a lot of money, I would expect a decent service from it not mediocre quality viewing.
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did u get good money for it? I am starting to get fed up especially spending a lot of money, I would expect a decent service from it not mediocre quality viewing.
To be honest i lost quite a bit being an early adopter i paid the full £549 when it first came out and now they can be had for £379 from some places, if you still using blackhole i would certainly try the FPGA 4.5 upgrade as this is a direct firmware update just for the Tuners its available via the green button on the plugins.

Try this first and maybe update to a newer Balckhole with the latest drivers say 1.7.8
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My V+duo has died (so much for these boxes being miles better then DM) so I'm looking to buy a new box?
Was you having problem with channels on 28e at all.
Has anyone found out why they was having these tuner problems?
May look at both the Ultimo and Xtrend.

If I had enough £ it would be another DM8000 but I haven't got a spare 900£
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No problem with 28.2.
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