[usenetz]

I know there is a dedicated thread for new channels but thought this deserved a thread of its own given the event and number of channels.

Watch every second of the BBC’s 2012 Olympics coverage on Sky with the help of 24 brand new HD channels, dedicated to the London Games.

Source: Watch every second of the BBC

[loz]

Good news for Olympics fans

BBC News - BBC offers Olympics streams on TV

Watch every second of the BBC’s 2012 Olympics coverage on Sky with the help of 24 brand new channels, dedicated to the London Games



Cable planned too, but not yet formally announced.

[logiciel]

Horrific news for everyone else who will have to pay for it.
And I know what the news deserves.

[loz]

Originally Posted by logiciel

Horrific news for everyone else.

How exactly?

If 24 additional channels are showing the Olympics, how does that affect those watching other channels that aren't showing the Olympics?

I didn't see anything that said you will be forced to watch....

Originally Posted by logiciel

who will have to pay for it.

Not sure how it is costing people any more (other than they are already contributing to the Olympics)

The feeds are being produced by the OBS anyway.
And the extra satellite channels are being funded by Sky.

So it isn't costing the TVL payer anything.

[TJT1]

How about me, who has neither Sky or sky freesat? I got the impression that to get anything from sky, you need a skybox. Will I be able to get these channels in HD on my Humax Freesat box? (other than on red button) It's a sellout by the BBC

[ant_thomas]

Originally Posted by TJT1

How about me, who has neither Sky or sky freesat? I got the impression that to get anything from sky, you need a skybox. Will I be able to get these channels in HD on my Humax Freesat box? (other than on red button)

If they are truly free to air then any HD satellite receiver should handle them. I'm sure more information will be announced in the run up.

[ant_thomas]

Or SD since they're going to simulcast in HD and SD.

[Radiomike]

Originally Posted by TJT1

How about me, who has neither Sky or sky freesat? I got the impression that to get anything from sky, you need a skybox. Will I be able to get these channels in HD on my Humax Freesat box? (other than on red button) It's a sellout by the BBC

Freesat have already confirmed that they will be carrying the channels which are available to any operator.

How exactly then is it a sellout by the BBC ?

Even Sky's press release notes that..."The BBC’s dedicated Olympics channels are being made available to TV platforms on a non-exclusive basis."

[TJT1]

Right. I see, it was the Sky blurb that I was reading and forgot that they are less than likely to advertise the fact that you can see the same stuff elsewhere. Is elsewhere in HD? Got a link?

[ant_thomas]

Freesat will carry all of the BBC's 24 live HD Olympic channels throughout London 2012, both as live channels and streams via the BBC Red Button.

Homes with Freesat will be able to see the 24 BBC Olympics channels in standard or high definition depending on their receiver equipment.

Freesat managing director Emma Scott said: "We're totally delighted to be able to offer Freesat viewers these great BBC HD services. It is going to be an amazing summer of sport and the London 2012 Olympics in HD will truly be a sight to behold.

"This is the latest great example of the quality and choice in TV programmes available to Freesat customers, all subscription-free."

BBC's 24 Olympics HD streams coming to cable, satellite - Media News - Digital Spy

[TJT1]

Thanks ant.

Are they realy going to put 24 more HD channels on the satellite then?

[ant_thomas]

Sounds like it.

[davemurgatroyd2]

Originally Posted by TJT1

Thanks ant.

Are they realy going to put 24 more HD channels on the satellite then?

Yes and 24 SD channels too. There is plenty of room available now we have 1N at 28E - the only limiting factor nowadays for new FTA HD channels for freesat (and Sky) is lack of cash with broadcasters.

[Jack_is_Back]

This is great news. Not so good for Freeview though, only 4 channels apparently.

[davemurgatroyd2]

Originally Posted by Jack_is_Back

This is great news. Not so good for Freeview though, only 4 channels apparently.

It will almost certainly lead to a large surge in sales and installation of satellite equipment both Sky and freesat. It certainly highlights the inadequacies of digital terrestrial TV as a platform.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by TJT1

Right. I see, it was the Sky blurb that I was reading and forgot that they are less than likely to advertise the fact that you can see the same stuff elsewhere. Is elsewhere in HD? Got a link?

You might need the customised firmware to record them. A standard Foxsat can only record one of them.

[1080 jawbreaker]

hope they will not shoe horn them into a few transponders

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by 1080 jawbreaker

hope they will not shoe horn them into a few transponders

They might be 720p25

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by ant_thomas

If they are truly free to air then any HD satellite receiver should handle them. I'm sure more information will be announced in the run up.

The Humax boxes won't tune data streams as channels. The customised firmware lets you add them as pseudo channels.

[ant_thomas]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

The Humax boxes won't tune data streams as channels. The customised firmware lets you add them as pseudo channels.

Are there any current BBC red button channels that are data streams rather than proper channels that just aren't listed as so in the EPG?

Since I don't use an STB I don't know. With VDR I see them as proper channels.

[Rodders53]

The way I've read the BBC blog is that these 24 services should appear in the EPG for recording if required
BBC - BBC Internet Blog: Delivering the digital Olympics: 24 live streams via the red button

post#10 quote seems quite definitive "Freesat will carry all of the BBC's 24 live HD Olympic channels throughout London 2012, both as live channels and (as) streams via the BBC Red Button." and http://freesat.co.uk/files/7713/3346...ment_FINAL.pdf seems to agree.

We'll have to wait to get news of pixel count and frame rates, plus further technical details on Code & Mux plus uplink (if anyone is willing to divulge the details).

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by ant_thomas

Are there any current BBC red button channels that are data streams rather than proper channels that just aren't listed as so in the EPG?

Since I don't use an STB I don't know. With VDR I see them as proper channels.

All the current red button services are data streams. Similar to the original red button access to ITV-HD.

[Davey H]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

All the current red button services are data streams. Similar to the original red button access to ITV-HD.

Hmmm, they're flagged as TV channels rather than data streams on my Linux box(es).

With data streams, i have to edit them/change type to 'TV' with a channel editor to view them.

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by Davey H

Hmmm, they're flagged as TV channels rather than data streams on my Linux box(es).

With data streams, i have to edit them/change type to 'TV' with a channel editor to view them.

The name kind of tells you

BBC SPORT STREAMS - Rob's Satellite TV

If you scan the transponder with a Humax Freesat box in free to air mode you get zilch. There is no lcn either so not on the Freesat epg. Your Linux box must allow you to enter the PIDS which you can't specify on a Humax box.

We now know that they will be on the Freesat epg with lcn's and full epg, no details as to resolution and bitrate at the moment.

[TJT1]

Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

You might need the customised firmware to record them. A standard Foxsat can only record one of them.

The Humax boxes won't tune data streams as channels. The customised firmware lets you add them as pseudo channels.

I don't understand the question

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by TJT1

I don't understand the question

Try and record one of the existing BBC interactive streams accessed by the red button other than stream 1.

[TJT1]

How does the modded S/W (I am running it and ch editor) sort this out please?

[lbear]

Nobody has yet pointed out that, without further processing or archiving to Blu-ray (surely a massive task), the recorded HD files will have to be played back using the original recording box. Keeping track of banks of recorders and what files were recorded on them is going to be a real hassle.

Trying to record all 24 HD channels is going to involve at least 6 recording boxes. Each of these will need at least a further 1Tb external drive to share simply recording the coverage and ideally a further 2Tbs of hard drive space to back these up. The OP would surely be better off restricting the HD recording at least to one box and archiving the drive at an appropriate point so it is clear to complete the two weeks.

[TJT1]

I don't think anyone actually indicated that they wanted to record all 24 channels, Did they?

[grahamlthompson]

Originally Posted by TJT1

I don't think anyone actually indicated that they wanted to record all 24 channels, Did they?

Someone did in another forum.

Figured out that you would need a minimum of 6 icords (assuming the Beeb played ball with the transponders) recording 4 streams on each and 6 outputs of an octal lnb. A icord costs about £350.00. If you used Foxsat-hdrs you would need 12 and a minimum of 12 lnbs - again assuming the Beeb play ball and you use each in single cable mode.

As for the storage - the mind boggles