[pedro2000uk]

5555 TV Movies on 7.3w is showing Sherlock Holmes 2 atm.. & looks & sounds like a screener...

is that 2 months old ?

[thfccambs]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

5555 TV Movies on 7.3w is showing Sherlock Holmes 2 atm.. & looks & sounds like a screener...

is that 2 months old ?

That sound good news mate. Shame there's no EPG on that so I can see when it's on again.

[Digicon]

How anyone could watch a film on there is beyond me showing at the moment The Green Hornet with how i would describe as a VCD screener quality in other words Crap. It really is Laughable.

[Digicon]

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[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by Digicon

..
showing at the moment The Green Hornet with how i would describe as a VCD screener quality ....

it wasn't that good ... actually it was far better because I've just checked out the 2 bit a second thing that's on now ... just sit further back.... [in the garden-... ]

Sherlock 2 was more like an analogue screener - ie: filmed in the cinema with an analogue camcorder & it's basic mic... lovely A & V..

the novelty being it's 2 months old - how can they just do that ?- depends what country it is but I'd have thought the sat tx co & the other channels would be the 1st to say something even before the studios..

[pedro2000uk]

5555 TV Movies on 7.3w is now showing ...

........Rise of the Planet of The Apes ...

[youngsime]

As a matter of interest what size dish would be the min to receive that sat in hull?
I currently have a moterised 80cm dish which won't touch it
I can get mbc channels on 26e but only at 56%

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by youngsime

As a matter of interest what size dish would be the min to receive that sat in hull?
I currently have a moterised 80cm dish which won't touch it
I can get mbc channels on 26e but only at 56%

got it in Leeds on a 1.1 a few days ago .. seems to go up country quite well ... not sure if you could drop to say a td88 [90] there.. they do quite well going up through Manchester & you might benefit from less city noise there.

[pedro2000uk]

Now showing on 5555 TV Movies @ 7.3w is ...

Captain America.. The 1st Avenger ...

[July 2011 release date -... another screener btw]

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

Now showing on 5555 TV Movies @ 7.3w is ...

Captain America.. The 1st Avenger ...

[July 2011 release date -... another screener btw]

been on again followed by ...Rise of the Planet of the Apes

So that's ..

Sherlock Holmes 2 [2 months old]
Rise of the Planet of the Apes [6 months old]
Captain America the 1st Avenger [4 months old]

[all look like screeners]

They seem to be repeating them in the mornings ... also there's no advert breaks, instead use on screen scrolling ads]..

Anyone know where it's from apart from some Arab speaking country....

[kevkbuk]

Are the banners top and bottom normal for the free movie channels on 26E and 7W?

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by kevkbuk

Are the banners top and bottom normal for the free movie channels on 26E and 7W?

you can chop them off with screen settings .. ...

..... it's just 5555 TV Movies & one called email@tv Movies- same people I think..... you certainly know you're not in the UK..

This isn't like the new blockbusters Panorama Action or the MBC movie channels can show or Fox Movies etc.. -[& they pay for their's ]

this is coming from somewhere that has a different set of rules..


there's another on now..

Casey Jones... release date .. Sept 2011 - 5 months old

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

y...

there's another on now..

Casey Jones... release date .. Sept 2011 - 5 months old

AND another 2011 release date movie followed that ... A Good Day For It...

so that's five 2011 release date movies in a couple of days... & all looked like screeners

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

AND another 2011 release date movie followed that ... A Good Day For It...

so that's five 2011 release date movies in a couple of days... & all looked like screeners

now 6.... Crazy Stupid Love... another 2011 movie release date just ending

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

now 6.... Crazy Stupid Love... another 2011 movie release date just ending

there's been other 2011 release date movies on including Horrible Bosses Expanded

now on 55555 movies TV on 7w is..

Harry Potter & the Deathly Hallows



not going to be many 2011[or 2012] movies left it hasn't shown

[saj1985]

some good movies,
these are FTA channels yea?

jus curious, what size dish u need for 7w and 26e in birmingham?

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by saj1985

some good movies,
these are FTA channels yea?

jus curious, what size dish u need for 7w and 26e in birmingham?

Most are still in Cinemas

All free to air..

We think 5555 TV Movies is just transmitting any movies including new ones & blatant screeners of various PQ without paying anyone - it is most likely coming from a country that hasn't got copyright/ patent laws for foreign material... like Iran- their copyright only covers their own [with prison] but not anything from outside Iran.

Actually building a 7w UK coverage map atm- mostly from our installs - Birmingham minimum is about a quality 85cm [85cm surface area- ignore advertised sizes just add width + height / 2] but that can be affected by local [city] noise/ interference & whether it's Birmingham North/ Central/ South.
East or west of Birmingham & you are in a more rural area - that is usually better than in a city ... just a street lamp in the wrong place or too many wireless devices can make it much harder but it seems pretty persistent.

Next is margin - a decent 85cm [& sensitive receiver/lnb etc..] will get the channels but lose them in rain -a bigger dish [1m+] will keep them longer & also get more movie channels at 7w on Nilesat 101/2 -such as the other MBC movie channels [easier on 26e]

so 85cm - 1.1m+ on area unless there's an interference issue... an un-bent td88/ orbital 1m or td 1.1 or you could go bigger

[saj1985]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

Most are still in Cinemas

All free to air..

We think 5555 TV Movies is just transmitting any movies including new ones & blatant screeners of various PQ without paying anyone - it is most likely coming from a country that hasn't got copyright/ patent laws for foreign material... like Iran- their copyright only covers their own [with prison] but not anything from outside Iran.

Actually building a 7w UK coverage map atm- mostly from our installs - Birmingham minimum is about a quality 85cm [85cm surface area- ignore advertised sizes just add width + height / 2] but that can be affected by local [city] noise/ interference & whether it's Birmingham North/ Central/ South.
East or west of Birmingham & you are in a more rural area - that is usually better than in a city ... just a street lamp in the wrong place or too many wireless devices can make it much harder but it seems pretty persistent.

Next is margin - a decent 85cm [& sensitive receiver/lnb etc..] will get the channels but lose them in rain -a bigger dish [1m+] will keep them longer & also get more movie channels at 7w on Nilesat 101/2 -such as the other MBC movie channels [easier on 26e]

so 85cm - 1.1m+ on area unless there's an interference issue... an un-bent td88/ orbital 1m or td 1.1 or you could go bigger

yea some really new movies, whats the picture quality like, any good?

i got a 90cm box standard dish,
and a technomate TM-1 Gold LNB,
cant get a sniff of 26e and 7w,
i've heard a lot of good things about the inverto black lnb,
are they really that good?
reckon its worth me changing my lnb?

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by saj1985

yea some really new movies, whats the picture quality like, any good?

As I said - on the channel that is showing all these movies that are still in the cinema [55555 TV Movies] the picture quality [PQ] varies - I'd say from acceptable to awful [like screeners - various picture / sound quality from camcorders used in a cinema].... All the others like Panorama Action/ Fox Movies etc.. are OK

Originally Posted by saj1985

i got a 90cm box standard dish,
and a technomate TM-1 Gold LNB,
cant get a sniff of 26e and 7w,
i've heard a lot of good things about the inverto black lnb,
are they really that good?
reckon its worth me changing my lnb?

Sounds like the dish & LNB & with experience ... so many 'other issues' - with a decent motorised 90 you should be getting these there [installed enough around there to know 100%] - & especially 26e - unless you have an interference problem & that can often be got round with a good survey & install, otherwise, like so many that have a dish of a certain size- 80 90 1m 1.1... it's only working like a smaller dish or often worse snr wise.

[pedro2000uk]

The movie on atm has a US release date of March 16th............ 2012

OK UK is/was Nov 2011 & Italy Sept 2011 ... even so

PQ [picture quality] & sound ... another screeeener ...

[foz2000]

Originally Posted by pedro2000uk

The movie on atm has a US release date of March 16th............ 2012

OK UK is/was Nov 2011 & Italy Sept 2011 ... even so

PQ [picture quality] & sound ... another screeeener ...

Reel steel is on now

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by foz2000

Reel steel is on now

Saw that ...

There was 3D on later ... think that was a screener too [still worked]

[rcaudwell]

Do you have any experience of 7W in Merseyside? Struggling with 1.1m Triax, no signal on these frequencies - just wondering if it`s worth trying to tweak dish or if I`m wasting my time.

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by rcaudwell

Do you have any experience of 7W in Merseyside? Struggling with 1.1m Triax, no signal on these frequencies - just wondering if it`s worth trying to tweak dish or if I`m wasting my time.

Well, we've installed enough motorised 90s/ 1ms / 1.1s around there & the Wirral/ N Wales/ N/W Cheshire & further north etc... that a 'properly' installed 1.1 should really deliver 500+ channels & some [small] rain margin... unless you are in a black spot we don't know about yet &/or have a local interference problem [just takes one poor stage of an install &/or a street lamp in the wrong place].

So yes, you should & well worth the effort & the only reason on the arc to have a 1.1 .... loads of fta movies, not just the iffy 55555 TV movies channel & the 2 month old screeners they put on & JSC's got more on the way including more HD. [wonder if 55555 company will bung on FTA live EPL next]

But this isn't 7w now really .. it's more the new stronger 7.3w position Atlantic Bird 7 [aka Nilesat 104] which is ....

a) about 20%- 25% stronger than Nilesat 101/102 stronger verticals 'were' before AB7 lit up and

b) has far more channels right through KU band & both pol's of about that power [+/- 10%] than 101/102 which had progressively harder tps through vertical & then horizontal and

c) seems to carry up country far better than Nilesat 101/102 used to & certainly doesn't drop off the same at Mid/ N Manchester like they did.



Nilesat 101/102 strong verticals have gone harder with what looks like bleed over interference from the more powerful Atlantic Bird 7 .. mainly it's the MBC movie channels on there now after Dubai's channels moved to 201, but they are on the easier 26e BADR4.

[rcaudwell]

Thanks, my install isn`t the best (scaffold pole in bin full of concrete ), but gets everything I need on all birds (except 7w, which I thought was impossible anyway prior to this info) so never really been bothered about making it any better - this is the incentive I need to get myself in gear and do the install properly.

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by rcaudwell

Thanks, my install isn`t the best (scaffold pole in bin full of concrete ), but gets everything I need on all birds (except 7w, which I thought was impossible anyway prior to this info) so never really been bothered about making it any better - this is the incentive I need to get myself in gear and do the install properly.

I hope you can, we get asked to sort a lot of motorised installs out & carry gear just to sort almost anything out but you often see more than 2 or 3 classic issues & far too often that many you just want to bin it all & start again

but if you are getting good numbers/ margins on the other weak sat/s ..that would be a good start .... most other sats will just blow in on a 1.1

Just did one just south of you that was all customer bought 'duff stuff' [supplied by a well known company] - you wouldn't believe what an absolute pile of crap I got Nilesat on

costs more to try to sort cr@p though

[cemist]

Area:
Anglesey nr Cemaes.

System:
Technomate 80cm Motorised System with Inverto Black LNB
Technomate TM5402 with USALS degrees set to 7.3W for Atlantic Bird.


10853 H 27500 - No Lock
12169 V 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12245 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality
12341 H 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12437 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality(Tm5402) - 5.1db Quality(FS1 Meter)
12467 H 27500 - 49% Signal Quality

How much more signal would i get if i upgraded the dish to maybe a 88cm dish ?.

Thanks

[Digicon]

Originally Posted by cemist

Area:
Anglesey nr Cemaes.

System:
Technomate 80cm Motorised System with Inverto Black LNB
Technomate TM5402 with USALS degrees set to 7.3W for Atlantic Bird.


10853 H 27500 - No Lock
12169 V 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12245 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality
12341 H 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12437 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality(Tm5402) - 5.1db Quality(FS1 Meter)
12467 H 27500 - 49% Signal Quality

How much more signal would i get if i upgraded the dish to maybe a 88cm dish ?.

Thanks

I personally have not installed one as far as your self but i did one in Preston lancs for a customer who was upgrading from the Triax 78cm to a triax 1.1m and his signal quality from the box where very similar to yours and on the 1.1m went to around 85%.

I would imagine you should see similar or there abouts figures from your location. Again dependant on interference issues if any.

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by cemist

Area:
Anglesey nr Cemaes.

System:
Technomate 80cm Motorised System with Inverto Black LNB
Technomate TM5402 with USALS degrees set to 7.3W for Atlantic Bird.


10853 H 27500 - No Lock
12169 V 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12245 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality
12341 H 27500 - 50% Signal Quality
12437 V 27500 - 51% Signal Quality(Tm5402) - 5.1db Quality(FS1 Meter)
12467 H 27500 - 49% Signal Quality

How much more signal would i get if i upgraded the dish to maybe a 88cm dish ?.

Thanks

Thanks for the report -

We have installed on Anglesey & enough installs along the Dee/ N Wales to get a reasonably good prediction... it really depends what make/ model of 80 it is - how big it is on the face - rim to rim excluding any raised rim area & if it's 100% true x no outage & local noise -

N Wales does well generally due to low noise & although all very low, I think you have done well on an 80 ... most are only c. 75cm on area ... a decent td88 [not bent in transit] is 90 on area & should get c. 500+ channels & a bit of margin on the stronger ones unless you have a local noise issue- I think Tops Movies will still be close- a good low tp measure - hence the thread title.

[pedro2000uk]

Originally Posted by Digicon

I personally have not installed one as far as your self but i did one in Preston lancs for a customer who was upgrading from the Triax 78cm to a triax 1.1m and his signal quality from the box where very similar to yours and on the 1.1m went to around 85%.....

On what channel & receiver or meter.