Sourcing replacement sat-nav CD?

[Big Adam]

I'm about to purchase a secondhand 2004 Fiat Ulysse but it is missing the original Sat-Nav CD.

I'm a sat-nav virgin and don't know too much on these things. I've tried contacting Fiat (UK) but they........well let's not go there......useless chumps.

Are navigation CDs hardware specific?

Any pointers greatfully received.

[dek1965]

this maybe what your looking for
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Navteq-Discs-2...QQcmdZViewItem

[dejongj]

Why pay someone who downloaded it for free from the Internet and is now gaining money from it.....

Your dealer can order it for you....A lot of the time the disc also contains an operating system, patches etc....Yes they are generic, but only when you know who is the true maker of your SatNav....

[dek1965]

if you bothered to read the ad, it clearly states that it is the original discs

[Big Adam]

Hey thanks. I'd had a quick search on ebay for "Fiat cd" (which returned nothing of interest) but hadn't realised there was a dedicated GPS Software section.

A little more expensive than I had anticipated. I'll ring round a couple more Fiat dealers. My local one is woeful.

Seeing as the Ulysse is a sister to the C8 and 807, I'm wondering whether the sat-nav software is interchangeable? The brand name "Nav-tech" or "Navteq" keeps cropping up in searches and those CDs are available cheap as chips.

Might chance £5 on the generic Navteq stuff and see what happens.

Thanks all.

[dejongj]

Originally Posted by dek1965

if you bothered to read the ad, it clearly states that it is the original discs

Fair enough I didn't bother to look at the link, though if something is too cheap there is something fishy about it in my opinion....Especially when selling the current years version!

[KeithO]

I'd be very wary of buying these off Ebay. Last year I bought a car with a Blaupunkt satnav in it, and also wanted the latest discs, so I bought some off Ebay for about 80 Euros (this is in Germany). The guy had good feedback, the discs seemed genuine (he said he had his satnav unit stolen, but the discs left behind). He was in Germany, and the transaction went fine.

Anyway, I bought them, they looked genuine, indistinguishable from the (older) set I had. I used them with no problems for 8 months. Right up until the local police came and took me to the station

It seems the guy actually was getting hundreds of copies of the discs made in Bulgaria, and selling them all over Europe (not just Germany) for all sorts of manufacturers. It took me some hours to convince the police that I did not know they were fakes when I bought them, and I think the fact that the guy interviewing me got mixed up between my genuine discs (which I took along to show him) and the fakes ones helped a lot! At one point they threatened to arrest me for knowingly purchasing counterfeit goods.

Eventually they sent the case off to a local magistrate, who finally ruled that I was 'probably' an innocent victim. But they confiscated the discs and I got a stern telling off.

So if you are tempted to buy these sorts of things off Ebay, be VERY sure you're getting the genuine article from the genuine owner!

[Steve.J.Davies]

Holy doorknock batman !! (KeithO, not Bat-man on the forum that is)

Talk about a close shave ! A lesson there, even buying in good faith means you have to protect yourself. But thats the 'net. It is a jungle out there...

Did the BiBs tell you how (and why) they came to your door ? Was everyone in the UK who did this lifted ? Seems unlikely it was an interpol thing so I assume the guy in germany got nailed due to diligence by the manufacturer and then leads were chased down. But as you bought just one it seems an awfully expensive use of police time. Especially if they did the same for every purchaser,
That would be a hugely expensive operation with little benefit. It seems to me that on the crime pointing system your alledged offense would not have racked up enough points justify police time on it. Heck they can't come out for burglaries in progress or cars getting wrecked in real-time on the street. Maybe if you are a multi national then the police will wade in with lots of resources for every 100 quid (of lost revenue) crime. unless it is shoplifting of course, haven't the police issued advise for shopkeepers not report in shoplifting offenses below a certain value.

(okay I am ignoring the whole ' blow your horn at some muppet who is strolling across 4 lanes of traffic while on a mobile phone and you will get done by a special constable' ethos out there.)

[KeithO]

Originally Posted by Steve.J.Davies

Holy doorknock batman !! (KeithO, not Bat-man on the forum that is)

Talk about a close shave ! A lesson there, even buying in good faith means you have to protect yourself. But thats the 'net. It is a jungle out there...

Did the BiBs tell you how (and why) they came to your door ? Was everyone in the UK who did this lifted ? Seems unlikely it was an interpol thing so I assume the guy in germany got nailed due to diligence by the manufacturer and then leads were chased down. But as you bought just one it seems an awfully expensive use of police time. Especially if they did the same for every purchaser,
That would be a hugely expensive operation with little benefit. It seems to me that on the crime pointing system your alledged offense would not have racked up enough points justify police time on it. Heck they can't come out for burglaries in progress or cars getting wrecked in real-time on the street. Maybe if you are a multi national then the police will wade in with lots of resources for every 100 quid (of lost revenue) crime. unless it is shoplifting of course, haven't the police issued advise for shopkeepers not report in shoplifting offenses below a certain value.

(okay I am ignoring the whole ' blow your horn at some muppet who is strolling across 4 lanes of traffic while on a mobile phone and you will get done by a special constable' ethos out there.)

Ah, bear in mind this is Germany (that's where I live), where the police have a slightly different attitude to the UK police. Here they attend every accident that involves damage - it's a legal requirement that accident damage to cars goes on the car's record. I guess they pursue counterfeit DVDs with similar zeal

From what the police told me it was a big operation (the counterfeiting, not the police follow up - tho I guess that was big too!). They supposedly had been watching this gang for months, and eventually raided some place. They got my name and address off the guy's PC, along with hundreds of others.

The police in my area had 3 people to talk to, and it seems many police forces across Germany (and indeed in other European countries) had also been supplied with info - I guess also in the UK, but maybe they just didn't follow it up.

But as you say, a lesson to us all. I made all the checks I thought I could to verify the authenticity, but even so I was caught. As they used to say on Hill Street Blues...be careful out there

[Steve.J.Davies]

Arrgh.. didn't spot the 'Munich'.. apologies..