RFX9600 relay outputs

[Dave964]

My sub has developed a low volume hum when the rest of my equipment is on standby, so I want to be able to power it off remotely.

I know there are remote control sockets, but these all seem to be RF which is no good with the TSU9600.

However - I assume that I should be able to somehow use the relay outputs of the RFX9600 - I'm just not sure how. I assume I would need some kind of relay triggered power supply - but a quick google didn't help much, and neither did a search on remote central.

Anybody know how I can do this?

[Dave964]

OK - think I've answered my own question after some searching.

I'm still not entirely sure about the relay outputs - but I have found the Russound ACT-1 which takes a 12v trigger. And my surround amp has triggers for each zone so I can use that to trigger the ACT-1.

[MAW]

Or you can use the RFX contact closures and a £3 maplin power supply? That's how my trigger devices are done.

[marksimonwright]

Originally Posted by MAW

Or you can use the RFX contact closures and a £3 maplin power supply? That's how my trigger devices are done.

Apologies for my ignorance here but, would the above solution solve an issue for me being.

When I had an Harmony 895 in my lounge, I used a Z-Wave plug socket to remote turn on a Lounge Lamp. My TSU9400 won't operate the Z.Wave device. Hence if the above works that would be great.

Although, given that my RFX is about 10 meters away from the plug socket in question, that in istelf may cause additional work with have to lay another wire.

Mark

[Dave964]

Originally Posted by MAW

Or you can use the RFX contact closures and a £3 maplin power supply? That's how my trigger devices are done.

Cool - that's what I want to do!

Don't suppose you have a part number? Do I have to do something special with the power supply? I'm a lot better at software than I am at electronics.........

[richardbarman]

Dave,

Don't get a Russound ACT-1. If you have cable to the sub, use a Maplin 12v supply and a 12v relay from these people:
http://www.t2solutionsuk.com/easy_relay_products.htm
They do one with in a single-gang UK front-plate.

If you don't have a spare cable to the sub, then buy a cheapo RF remote plug, hack apart the remote, and attach the button contacts to the relays on the RFX. Then you can control any mains outlet in the house.

Richard

[Dave964]

Excellent - thanks.

I will embarass myself now by asking stupid questions though :

From what I can see of that relay, it takes the trigger from the RFX (can somebody confirm I can use that because I think that manual said it was 40V?) and then mains in / mains out. I would therefore assume that I take the plug off the sub power lead and wire it into the mains out - and then connect the mains in to another plug which I simply plug in a normal mains socket.

In which case - I'm confused about what I want the Maplin power supply for?

[richardbarman]

Dave,

No worries.

The relays on the RFX9600 can be used for a maximum of 48v dc, but have no voltage on them unless you put it there. The 12v PSU from maplin will provide the 12v DC needed to operate the relay that switches the mains ON/OFF.

Therefore....
12v line from PSU goes to 1 of the terminals on the RFX relay. Other terminal goes to 'Trigger +' on the mains relay board.
0v from PSU goes straight to 'Trigger-' on mains relay board.

When the relay on the RFX is switched 'on' 12v will go to the relay board and switch the mains relay on.

Yes, the mains wiring to the sub need to be put via the mains relay. There's a 'NC', 'C' and 'NO' set of terminals. put the live from the mains plug onto the 'C' , and then the live that goes to the sub on 'NO'. Neutral and earth can be connected straight through without going though the relay.

Hope this helps.

Richard

[Dave964]

Thanks - that helps a lot. I didn't realise that's what the RFX9600 outputs did - I assume they would be driven to a voltage when I "enabled" them.

OK - so, I need the 12V relay because I would use a 12v PSU as the trigger, but it will still be able to handle mains voltage when the contacts close. It looks like it's 8A so I need to make sure the sub uses less than that - otherwise it would be too much for the relay.

Edit : I now also understand the kind of 12v power supply I'm looking for - just a simple 12DC thing - the kind of thing that would power a portable CD player or something like that. Then snip the connector off the end.

[marksimonwright]

Dave,

Did you ever get this sorted out.

I only ask as I have quite a few "plug in" appliances that I would like to turn off with me 9400.

I've tried to fine some "IR" plug sockets, but no luck yet, howver, to be fair for some for some of the appiances I' not sure an "IR" solution is the best way.

I have read all the above posts but, still feel abit "weak" in my knowledge of how to actually use the components mentioned above. I think you were in the same shoes as me when you orignally posted, but, perhaps your knowledge is now more in depth and you can possibly simplify what is needed and how to connect it all.

Many many thanks in anticipation of any help you can provide.

All the best
Mark

[Dave964]

I do now understand what I need to do - but I haven't done anything about it yet. I've been away for a few days, and I've got other stuff to sort out at the moment. It's on my list of things to do - but not currently very high - partly because I think it makes more sense to do it after my interior modifications and that's likely to be a couple of months yet (it seems I should have been a builder - since they are apparently so busy they can just ignore potential customers who want quotes.....).

[marksimonwright]

Originally Posted by Dave964

I do now understand what I need to do - but I haven't done anything about it yet. I've been away for a few days, and I've got other stuff to sort out at the moment. It's on my list of things to do - but not currently very high - partly because I think it makes more sense to do it after my interior modifications and that's likely to be a couple of months yet (it seems I should have been a builder - since they are apparently so busy they can just ignore potential customers who want quotes.....).

No problem and thanks for the reply.

Re the builders, I know exactly what re mean it's no so long ago I was wanted a "small" loft conversion which, accoring to so called "non building experts" would have cost between £5K - £10K. Same issue as yourself despite me making it clear that I would sort out planning permision, regs etc, etc.

Despit not wanting to do it myseld (purely because of time) I did end up doing it myself for about £3K (just took so long, e.g.2 weeks off work, evenings and weekends

Mark

[JGM]

I'm using the AV version of the Intellipanel to control the power to most of my accessories.

It has a socket for one master device such as a TV and you teach the IP to come on when you use the TV power on code. The panel then provides power to all the other sockets. I'm currently using the master socket for my amp and have two subs, a PS3, a HD DVD player and a DVD player on the IP. There is another socket that is permanently on and I use that for my Sky HD box.

Effectively when I come to use my system there is no power to the above items.

My TSU9600 issues a IR command to the IP that puts power to the sockets. I then switch the amp on and switch out of standby the items that I want.

When I come to finish, all I need do is issue a power off to the amp. After 30 seconds the IP pulls power from all the sockets including the amp. The Sky HD socket is unaffected. It also has another socket for a normal Sky box which has permannet power but when the IP pulls the power from the rest of the sockets, it cycles the Sky socket. If the box is on it should put it into standby.

It would solve your problem with the sub.

As for the RFX9600 and its relays, remember that it also has a power source on it although it is only 5v. I use one of the relays to trigger my screen using a 12v power supply as the power source. I'm still struggling to think of what to do with the other three.

John

[marksimonwright]

Originally Posted by JGM

I'm using the AV version of the Intellipanel to control the power to most of my accessories.

John

Any chance of a link to one

Cheers
Mark

[JGM]

I put AV and Intellipanel into Google and came up with 4750 hits

Here's one to be going on with.

http://www.ethicalsuperstore.com/pro...r-televisions/

John