[yukioMishima]

well well

more to my above post

it would appear that one of my recordings in the recordings list is corrupt

i have recoreded another program... and it is now at the top of the list (and the recording that it defaults to when you push the list button)..... but now... whenever i scroll thru to the item that was at the top of the list previously... the sagem crashes and reintialises

so... it would appear that i have a corrupt recording

is there anything that can be done to delete an item from the list (given that i cannot simply select it and delete it as the sagem crashes)

thanks in advance

yukiomishima

[lat002]

Yukiomishima - the problem you describe is precisely the problem I had with my previous Sagem PVR 72160, (see my previous post in this forum). After 1 particular recording, I found I couldn’t access the recording list without causing a reboot, until after I’d recorded something else. I then found whenever I tried to access the corrupt recording, that caused a reboot too.

I tried everyway I could think of to delete the recording without success. In fact that was the problem that caused me to find this forum. Then I realized that it could also signify a bad sector on the hard disk so erasing it would only be a temporary fix. That’s when I decided to take it back to the shop that sold it to me, (Comet). I was lucky to get a new machine without any hassle. The shop assistant tested the machine in the shop and agreed with me that it could be a hard disk problem.

I know you may want a magic solution but if you’ve not had the machine too long I’d try taking it back - if that’s practical. Has anyone else had the same problem or does anyone know what the real cause is?

[yukioMishima]

lat002

thanks for the reply

unfort i have had the machine too long now to return it

i guess i can try and live with that recording there... and just try to remember to avoid it whenever i am scrolling thru the list

i have just about had it with this thing anyway... despite all of the minor firmware updates etc etc... it still seems way too problematic/ unstable/ quirky to be something i can rely on, on a day to day basis (anyone want a sagem 6240t ... going cheap)

thanks again for your confirmation of my deduction

yukioMishima

[t11rmh]

Now that BST has come to an end and we go backto GMT on Saturday night does anybody know whether my Sagem will automatically change the time on the clock?

Looking at the EPG for next weeks programs everything is an hour back from where it should be so des it take the time change into account? I haven't programmed anything in for next week because the time will be changed on my box one way or another and all those settings would be wrong.....

[sparky_paul]

Originally Posted by t11rmh

Now that BST has come to an end and we go backto GMT on Saturday night does anybody know whether my Sagem will automatically change the time on the clock?

Looking at the EPG for next weeks programs everything is an hour back from where it should be so des it take the time change into account? I haven't programmed anything in for next week because the time will be changed on my box one way or another and all those settings would be wrong.....

Very interesting, the clock does change automatically - and mine is showing Guide times being one hour out too.

There was an issue last year where any timers already set altered by one hour after the clocks went back, there was supposedly a firmware fix for this shortly after - I'm not sure if this is a further bug, or the 'fix'...

Originally Posted by yukioMishima

well well

more to my above post

it would appear that one of my recordings in the recordings list is corrupt

i have recoreded another program... and it is now at the top of the list (and the recording that it defaults to when you push the list button)..... but now... whenever i scroll thru to the item that was at the top of the list previously... the sagem crashes and reintialises

so... it would appear that i have a corrupt recording

is there anything that can be done to delete an item from the list (given that i cannot simply select it and delete it as the sagem crashes)

thanks in advance

yukiomishima

Hi,

I had this problem - if you join the recording to another one, you should be able to delete it.

cheers

I've a 7280T and it does crash - for example when rewinding a program thats currently recording, at say x60, it seems to want to rewind past the start of the recording, gets confused and reboots. By the time its rebooted and you've started recording again you've missed a minute or two of the program...

That said I really like the Sagem, and I wouldnt be without it. If you can afford a more expensive box that does at least the same (hopefully more) and doesnt come with the niggles then go for it, otherwise you should go for the Sagem. Everyone should have a PVR - I couldnt imagine going back to sicking a massive cassette tape in a vcr, and then rewinding it!

I'm just about to upgrade, so I'm looking for recommendations, but I don't want to spend £400 on something that "crashes less", I'll just stick with Sagem for a while longer. Surely one manufacturer has created the ultimate PVR by now.......

[yukioMishima]

teamgrinner

thanks for the tip.... i will try and merge with another recording and try to delete it (when i have a recording i want to delete)

still too many little niggles with the sagem.... but as you say.... can hardly imagine life without a pvr.....

it looks like the topfield tf5800 comes closest to the ultimate pvr (using TAPS etc)..... but even that seems a bit flawed

thanks again for the tip

yukioMishima

[t11rmh]

Originally Posted by sparky_paul

Very interesting, the clock does change automatically - and mine is showing Guide times being one hour out too.

There was an issue last year where any timers already set altered by one hour after the clocks went back, there was supposedly a firmware fix for this shortly after - I'm not sure if this is a further bug, or the 'fix'...

I got up this morning and it was showing the wrong time until I turned it on. I did program one of the programs that was showing the incorrect time in the EPG and low and behold it was automatically adjusted to the right time.

It does seem that you have to turn it on to get the right time. My DVD/HDD recorder had changed the time all by itself whilst in standby.

[BananaTiger]

Was flicking through the channels last night and I noticed that QVC are doing a Sagem 160GB twin-tuner on special value. It's around £150, and with postage and packing on top. Not sure if it's cheap or any good, but I thought I'd mention it here

QVC Today's Special Value

Any views on this item? It's strange that QVC are selling this, and also selling the Humax TV with built-in PVR.

[sparky_paul]

Originally Posted by BananaTiger

Was flicking through the channels last night and I noticed that QVC are doing a Sagem 160GB twin-tuner on special value. It's around £150, and with postage and packing on top. Not sure if it's cheap or any good, but I thought I'd mention it here

QVC Today's Special Value

This Sagem is a new machine, and as such a bit of an unknown quantity. All previous Sagems have been twin tuner models, but this is the first Sagem with the capability to twin-record.

User interface appears to be very similar to the previous machines. Hopefully this machine will be less bug-ridden than its predecessors...

[chriszzzzzz]

Don't buy any Sagem products.....They have given OTA updates to their current line up and this has rendered the EPG completely useless. No channels have a complete programme list in fact the listings are quiet random. This in turn renders the machine all but useless. All contact with Sagem has resulted in zilch..They will not even acknowledge the problem....
Again.. BEWARE OF SAGEM PRODUCTS....USELESS....

[BananaTiger]

Luckily I didn't go for it in the end. Will save my pennies for a humax instead

[sparky_paul]

Originally Posted by BananaTiger

Luckily I didn't go for it in the end. Will save my pennies for a humax instead

I have a Sagem. I think you are very wise...

[yukioMishima]

agreed

i had a sagem... even upgraded the 40mb hard drive to a 250mb one (which prolonged its life a little)

recently got myself a toppy..... WOW.... no going back to the sagem.... seriously flawed piece of kit

yukioMishima

[Stardogg]

Sorry for bumping but I have a fix for one version of the Recording List crash.

If the program you record isn't the top of a "Full List", then record another program for a few seconds to make the corrupt program #2 in the list.

Then open your list, then press ">" to jump to page 2, then move the highlight onto the 2nd spot from the top, then press "<". It should now select the corrupt program without crashing, and show some garbled text. You can just delete it now.

This has only just happened to me after 2 or so years of owning one of these Sagems. If the corrupt program is the top of a Full List then I think you're fooked

[IainB]

Hi there, agai sorry for dragging this back up. I bought one of these PVRs for her indoors back end of 2007 and in general it's been fine, however recently it's started not recording anything off Channel5, 5 USA etc, all other channels are fine.

Does anyone know if re-setting the box the factory defaults removes nay recorded programs??

It says all channels and user info will be lost but doesn't mention the recordings?

Also anyone else had this issue and found a fix??

[angement]

Originally Posted by t11rmh

Anybody got a Sagem PVR? I'm thinking of buying one - the PVR62160T.

Having tried a few different PVR Manufactures I think the Sagem has some difficulties
I think that the Hard drive manufacture that they use is un-reliable
The problem is that the operating system has to be loaded from the drive and therefore once the HD fails the unit is written off.
It is a pity that this is the case. If Sagem had put the operating system into a non-volatile memory such as a ROM chip there would notbe an issue cos the hard drive is easily replaced with a more reliable unit.
The actual software used is extremely well written and very user friendly.
I 've tried Humax which is good but the most expensive.
Also Nikkai and Nichimen are cheap and cheerfull but difficult to use.
The Nikkai is really difficult (P.Hd needed)