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Old 07-03-2012, 6:06 PM   #2
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Samba Success

Ooh and I get to go first in a new thread. Just installed 4.14 and tried Samba - worked straight away and files copy over the network at about 9 or 10M using my TP-Link homeplugs and a 10/100 mini switch. Congratulations to all those involved. It would be nice to be able to play .TRP's on my PC - can that be done in Linux or is there a way of playing them in Windows?

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Hi captainkremmen

Your quote.. Just got home and quickly checked, both Shameless and Survivors were only 22 minutes and 24 minutes long respectively. Dammit, oh well, I'll resort to the catchup services to watch them.


Shameless is repeated the following Monday so if like me you like the HD version make a schedule for next Monday.

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Won't VLC play them? I had them playing on my Widows XP NetBook and (eventually) on my iMac using VLC.
 
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Ooh and I get to go first in a new thread. Just installed 4.14 and tried Samba - worked straight away and files copy over the network at about 9 or 10M using my TP-Link homeplugs and a 10/100 mini switch. Congratulations to all those involved. It would be nice to be able to play .TRP's on my PC - can that be done in Linux or is there a way of playing them in Windows?
I just copy the .trp files, and rename them to .ts or .mpg, and the play fine with media player.
 
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Ooh and I get to go first in a new thread. Just installed 4.14 and tried Samba - worked straight away and files copy over the network at about 9 or 10M using my TP-Link homeplugs and a 10/100 mini switch. Congratulations to all those involved. It would be nice to be able to play .TRP's on my PC - can that be done in Linux or is there a way of playing them in Windows?
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I just copy the .trp files, and rename them to .ts or .mpg, and the play fine with media player.
Hi

Actually WMP will play TRP files directly -

- Right Click > Play
- Open > Choose a program from a list ...
- Choose > Media Player
- Tick box to always use this program (option)
- Choose Yes : Try to play anyway when it says Extension not recognised .... and tick Don't ask me again (option)

Plays fine and is associated for future Double Click access.

VLC plays fine but uses quite a bit of processor power if you have an older/slower laptop say.

Splash Lite has the lowest processor overhead but won't play from filetype association so have to use Open File Dialog and All Files option.

DLNA Servers

Serviio is TRP aware and seen by my Sony TV and BDP but won't play SD for some unknown reason.

TVersity, FUPPES and Serviio all play fine to the DPS-1000.

TVersity and FUPPES are not recognised by SONY !

FUPPES needs and extra config statement - Copy+Paste the MP4 entry but change the filetype to TRP (and again similarly for TS support)

Mezzmo works with Sony Bravia 2010+ but not my BDP S370 ????

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Lock up...freeze....reboot

Got a problem with mine doing what is becoming a regular lock up followed by the system freezing completely and then rebooting. Running repair has, if anything, made it worse and no, it's not happened since the latest update or the Samba mod.
I "think" I've narrowed it down to it happening when replaying and/or fast forwarding or rewinding. I think. Here's the thing though, I've completed the form on the MIT site, asking for an adress to send a heap of sys logs to, but all I got was my own message sent back to me with no comment. Am I missing something obvious here?
 
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Lightbulb DGU+ Samba Tip

Hi all, so I've been fiddling around with the DGU+ Samba pack and came across an issue with connecting to it from my Win7 x64 machine. Attempting to browse \\DHR-820XU produced an error dialog with a useless error code. I could browse by \\<ip address> perfectly well.

I had already changed the DHR config to put the DS into the correctly named workgroup and rebooted it. It just teased me by showing the correctly named machine on the network and not letting me connect to it!

So I went off digging through all the laptop's network settings, check everything - all appeared fine. Eventually I found the issue - so here's my top tip!

If you're using Kaspersky Anti-Virus, you need to head into your network connection's properties and un-tick Kaspersky Anti-Virus NDIS 6 Filter because it basically screws up NetBIOS naming. You won't be able to browse your DS with this particular bit of Kaspersky enabled.

Having checked the web, I find that this filter causes problems in all kinds of network scenarios, so it'll just stay off for me
 
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I've been at it an hour and I just can't get reconnected to the DS with DGU+, I just get the unidentified network


Can any network whizz help with a step by step guide for a newbie?

The wired connection is from the DS to my Win 7 shod laptop's ethernet port. DHCP is enabled on both.
 
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Got a problem with mine doing what is becoming a regular lock up followed by the system freezing completely and then rebooting. Running repair has, if anything, made it worse and no, it's not happened since the latest update or the Samba mod.
I "think" I've narrowed it down to it happening when replaying and/or fast forwarding or rewinding. I think. Here's the thing though, I've completed the form on the MIT site, asking for an adress to send a heap of sys logs to, but all I got was my own message sent back to me with no comment. Am I missing something obvious here?
Hi

Try sending email to ukservice at dstreamtech dot com

also mention the eMails bouncing back from MIT

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I've been at it an hour and I just can't get reconnected to the DS with DGU+, I just get the unidentified network


Can any network whizz help with a step by step guide for a newbie?

The wired connection is from the DS to my Win 7 shod laptop's ethernet port. DHCP is enabled on both.
Hi, you need a DHCP server somewhere to give out addresses - this is normally your internet router.

If you have DHCP enabled on both the DS and your laptop, then you won't be able to connect them together with a crossover cable because each device will expect the other one to give it an address, so both will do nothing. Try connecting both devices to your internet router with their own cables.

If that isn't possible, then you'd have to give each device a different static IP address, but make sure they don't clash with anything - e.g. with any addresses on your wireless network your laptop is connected to, for example.

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Un-recording update

Here's the curious thing. I did a complete reset as per Pete's suggestion, then re-instated all my settings via the external restore function then tried a timed recording - box woke up from standby but no recording. Did another re-set but this time re-did all my settings manually set a timed recording (not 'Babestation' - not on in afternoon, but 'Deadly Art' on OneHD) bingo it worked! Could the version of my settings somehow have been corrupted (cause or coincidence?) and the box woke up at 3am to do its housekeeping - something I didn't notice it doing on Tuesday. Everything crossed for tonight's recordings. (on a more trivial note is there any way of making my user name appear any less shouty - caps - I.T. types hate 'em).

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Hi

Try sending email to ukservice at dstreamtech dot com

also mention the eMails bouncing back from MIT

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Thanks Pete, they're up to something now. I've had two more "replies" overnight, one telling me to 'go to tmp user folder, '4.13.r8683' and a 2nd stating the same, but asking me to d/l firmware from there and apply it.
Would that be a custom fit for me would you know? I'm already running 4.14.r8684-PCM
 
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DGU+ Mac Snow Leopard

After much frustration and false starts, I've now managed to get connected via Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) (though all I've done thus far is a test file grab; doubtless more pain will follow when trying to do anything more complex!).

If it'll help anyone else: my symptoms were that I could ping the DS OK on the network, but couldn't log in as Guest when I tried to connect as the device 'doesn't allow guest access'. Obviously user/pw was a no go as well.

Apparently it's something to do with the way Macs always sends authentication back encrypted, but the Samba default is unencrypted.

Simple modification in the end: simply added the following line to the smb.conf file (I put it after the line 'nt acl support = no'):
encrypt passwords = yes

It doesn't appear to have affected the Windows 7 connection. Assuming it doesn't affect other OS connections, it may be nice to have this added to the smb.conf file by default?

On another note, two things which added to my frustrations. First, when I go into standby I appear to lose my connection to the router (power saving is off). Have to switch off at the back. Second, it appears that my DS isn't happy about powering back up with a USB stick attached. Gets so far then appears to power down again with only the time showing. I still have the upgrade files on my USB stick though, so that may be an issue? Also not sure if these two things are connected... Too early in the morning for all this malarky
 
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Thanks Pete, they're up to something now. I've had two more "replies" overnight, one telling me to 'go to tmp user folder, '4.13.r8683' and a 2nd stating the same, but asking me to d/l firmware from there and apply it.
Would that be a custom fit for me would you know? I'm already running 4.14.r8684-PCM
Edit: OK, they agree that I've the latest and not to use their suggestion, but are now asking me to install Micom 1.35 which kills the front panel - uhhh, I have to do it, but I'm one of those who actually uses the front panel. Poo. Still, great support.
 
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After much frustration and false starts, I've now managed to get connected via Mac OS 10.6 (Snow Leopard) (though all I've done thus far is a test file grab; doubtless more pain will follow when trying to do anything more complex!).

If it'll help anyone else: my symptoms were that I could ping the DS OK on the network, but couldn't log in as Guest when I tried to connect as the device 'doesn't allow guest access'. Obviously user/pw was a no go as well.

Apparently it's something to do with the way Macs always sends authentication back encrypted, but the Samba default is unencrypted.

Simple modification in the end: simply added the following line to the smb.conf file (I put it after the line 'nt acl support = no'):
encrypt passwords = yes

It doesn't appear to have affected the Windows 7 connection. Assuming it doesn't affect other OS connections, it may be nice to have this added to the smb.conf file by default?
I'll take a look ... if it seems to be transparent to everything else then I'll put it in the standard config. It's strange though, as there should be no password exchanged as it's guest access with no password!
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On another note, two things which added to my frustrations. First, when I go into standby I appear to lose my connection to the router (power saving is off). Have to switch off at the back.
That's by design in v1.0 ... otherwise Samba would keep the hard disk spinning and your power consumption would be just about the same as when fully on.
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Second, it appears that my DS isn't happy about powering back up with a USB stick attached. Gets so far then appears to power down again with only the time showing. I still have the upgrade files on my USB stick though, so that may be an issue? Also not sure if these two things are connected... Too early in the morning for all this malarky
If it's in the rear USB port, the DS will be spotting the firmware upgrade files at power on and trying to do another firmware upgrade. Either use a front USB port, or remove the firmware upgrade files.
 
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Edit: OK, they agree that I've the latest and not to use their suggestion, but are now asking me to install Micom 1.35 which kills the front panel - uhhh, I have to do it, but I'm one of those who actually uses the front panel. Poo. Still, great support.
Hi,

The first blank response was probably an auto responder that should have added a "Thanks, we'll get back to you soon" message.

You are getting technical support direct from Korea by the sound of it - they are the experts.

I would doubt the Micom was the problem but ????
You can revert to 1.33 again if there is no improvement.

My guess as to the problem would be an HDD issue.

Once in a blue moon my DHR will slow down response wise and this is the first symptom that the HDD control has got in a pickle and is reading and writing all over the place - If at this stage I don't standby cycle or stop doing any jumps and skips or FFWD etc. then the box will probably lock fully and then do a mini re-boot.

If yours is doing this all the time then my guess would be HDD fault or controller issue - but I am no expert !

I would copy off all important recordings if you can, just in case a reformat is needed, or the HDD fails. I had a 1TB Seagate fitted at one time and got similar (though not exactly the same) problems just before the HDD started eating itself. HDD reformats only helped for a short time before the physical damage came back and started spreading again. Worst case scenario of course !

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Second, it appears that my DS isn't happy about powering back up with a USB stick attached. Gets so far then appears to power down again with only the time showing. I still have the upgrade files on my USB stick though, so that may be an issue? Also not sure if these two things are connected... Too early in the morning for all this malarky
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If it's in the rear USB port, the DS will be spotting the firmware upgrade files at power on and trying to do another firmware upgrade. Either use a front USB port, or remove the firmware upgrade files.
Further to what David has said, I keep my updates files on the usb but move them into a directory called "DS Software" then have subdirectories for each update, latest is in a "4-14" subdirectory. As long as the software update files are not stored in the root (parent) directory of the usb it should work fine in either front or rear usb.
 
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Quoting from CaptainKremmen : "There did seem to be a problem last night, I was recording Prisoners Wives on BBC One and noticed that it recorded for an hour and half, so included the news afterwards as well only stopping when I noticed it and stopped it manually. Not sure about on other channels as I haven't checked yet, but will do when I get home as I had also set it up to record Shameless and Survivors."

Same happened to me! At least it wasn't the box at fault, just the info from the TV signal. I get my signal from Sutton Coldfield.
 
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Quoting from CaptainKremmen : "There did seem to be a problem last night, I was recording Prisoners Wives on BBC One and noticed that it recorded for an hour and half, so included the news afterwards as well only stopping when I noticed it and stopped it manually. Not sure about on other channels as I haven't checked yet, but will do when I get home as I had also set it up to record Shameless and Survivors."

Same happened to me! At least it wasn't the box at fault, just the info from the TV signal. I get my signal from Sutton Coldfield.
Yep, I had no problem with 'MasterChef' last night, so the extended time on 'Prisoners Wives' on Monday would have to be down to the BBC.
 
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Yes I had the problem of having the 4.14 update files on my usb stick when I put it a rear port. Since that usb stick doesn't work in the rear port the DS just said LOADING for ages and had to be powered off. It might be worth mentioning this in the DGU documentation.

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But I have now used another USB stick in the back and that's OK so it's obviously important to have a stick which will allow you to do updates via the rear USB.

Dave

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Hey guys just a quick question I bought one of these for my parents just under a couple of months back and it was very reliable but over the last week recordings haven't been stopping so if two don't stop then any recordings scheduled to follow are missed also

I didn't update the firmware so its still running 4.11.r8280 and I noticed in the release notes for 4.13.r8637 that it has a bug fix for "Non-stop recording issue is fixed"

So was that the fix for this problem? might seem a stupid question but I'm just puzzled why its only just started wouldn't have ask otherwise

If I update to 4.14 is it fine just to do an "Application Only" update straight from 4.11.r8280 ?

Don't really want any more phone calls so hope its firmware problem
 
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Hey guys just a quick question I bought one of these for my parents just under a couple of months back and it was very reliable but over the last week recordings haven't been stopping so if two don't stop then any recordings scheduled to follow are missed also

I didn't update the firmware so its still running 4.11.r8280 and I noticed in the release notes for 4.13.r8637 that it has a bug fix for "Non-stop recording issue is fixed"

So was that the fix for this problem? might seem a stupid question but I'm just puzzled why its only just started wouldn't have ask otherwise

If I update to 4.14 is it fine just to do an "Application Only" update straight from 4.11.r8280 ?

Don't really want any more phone calls so hope its firmware problem
Yep - Random and rare Non-Stop issue.

Fixed in 4.13+ and yes you can just do a Front-USB Menu Method Application Only Update straight to any FW you desire.

Just copy only the update.tgz and update.md5 files from the MIT Download or use the appropriate AO Download from the Wiki.

You can use all the 8 files from the MIT download but you needlessly overwrite unchanged files that way - Not really a problem either way.

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Hey guys just a quick question I bought one of these for my parents just under a couple of months back and it was very reliable but over the last week recordings haven't been stopping so if two don't stop then any recordings scheduled to follow are missed also
Hi

I think we have come to the conclusion that the broadcasters mucked up the EPG around about 10-00pm on Tuesday night that caused over runs with recordings and failed recordings.

This caused my DS to miss its first recording in nearly two years.

Well we hope it was the broadcasters as it just happened to have coincided with local networking stuff being applied to my DS and my finger is still pointing at the broadcasters.

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Hi,

The first blank response was probably an auto responder that should have added a "Thanks, we'll get back to you soon" message.

You are getting technical support direct from Korea by the sound of it - they are the experts.

I would doubt the Micom was the problem but ????
You can revert to 1.33 again if there is no improvement.

My guess as to the problem would be an HDD issue.

......................
Yep, I'm fairly certain that's what it is too. I must admit to being tempted to bung in another HDD, but will probably try the Micom anyway - 16 month old grandson is with us today and he spotted me switching channels via the front panel earlier. Two minutes later and we were no longer watching the news, but something completely different, and then something else, and then something else and then I thought, "hmm, maybe that Micom 1.35 could prove useful after all". So I did.
 
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I think we have come to the conclusion that the broadcasters mucked up the EPG around about 10-00pm on Tuesday night that caused over runs with recordings and failed recordings.

This caused my DS to miss its first recording in nearly two years.

Well we hope it was the broadcasters as it just happened to have coincided with local networking stuff being applied to my DS and my finger is still pointing at the broadcasters.

Chris
Yes, this issue is unlikely to be DS related, as it also affected the Humax boxes.
 
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Yep - Random and rare Non-Stop issue.

Fixed in 4.13+ and yes you can just do a Front-USB Menu Method Application Only Update straight to any FW you desire.

Just copy only the update.tgz and update.md5 files from the MIT Download or use the appropriate AO Download from the Wiki.

You can use all the 8 files from the MIT download but you needlessly overwrite unchanged files that way - Not really a problem either way.

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Thanks for the reply all updated will see how it goes

Not sure I'm a fan of the new progress bar looks like some Ametuer knocked it up in Photoshop in comparison to the quality of the rest of the skin

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Hi

I think we have come to the conclusion that the broadcasters mucked up the EPG around about 10-00pm on Tuesday night that caused over runs with recordings and failed recordings.

This caused my DS to miss its first recording in nearly two years.

Well we hope it was the broadcasters as it just happened to have coincided with local networking stuff being applied to my DS and my finger is still pointing at the broadcasters.

Chris
Yes I know I commented on this the other day as I noted that now and next failed to switch correctly when the program changed so displayed the previous program details however the problem I'm referring to existed before Tuesday and was obviously a problem on earlier firmware hence a fix in 4.13
 
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Thanks for the reply all updated will see how it goes

Not sure I'm a fan of the new progress bar looks like some Ametuer knocked it up in Photoshop in comparison to the quality of the rest of the skin

Yes I know I commented on this the other day as I noted that now and next failed to switch correctly when the program changed so displayed the previous program details however the problem I'm referring to existed before Tuesday and was obviously a problem on earlier firmware hence a fix in 4.13
Hi

Each to their own ! Most seem to prefer the new look Transport Banner - I do.

Yes, 2 different things - A broadcaster issue happened before on all C4 group channels one evening, when the Now Info failed to update until 06:00 the next day !

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Thanks for the reply all updated will see how it goes

Not sure I'm a fan of the new progress bar looks like some Ametuer knocked it up in Photoshop in comparison to the quality of the rest of the skin[/B]

Your comment regarding the new progress bar was a bit harsh, but having said that, you are entitled to your opinion. Yours is the first negative response so far.

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