[lancsuser]

forgot to mention that first rear update failed with a cheap(free) 1gb key, 2nd "identical" key worked. first key had other stuff in the root, 2nd had just update files, both were recognized. will try failed key with just update files at next update for info.

[Boogersa]

I could well be wrong but was there mention in an earlier post that the update would allow the automatic creation of folders? Has this feature been dropped(and for good)?

Can we still put forward requests for changes for any future update which may come along?

One thing I don't like is that when you are watching a program and decide to record it (by pressing the record button, not recording it from the guide) the file name is stored based on the channel it is recording, not with the name of the program.

[professorhat]

Originally Posted by jfsebastian

That was a little harsh.

Agreed - the Digital Stream is a good product, but it's not for everyone, so there's no need to start dismissing people who had legitimate concerns in my opinion. I don't think anyone wants this thread to degenerate into a slanging match like some of the other PVR owner's threads have done.

[ronat]

Originally Posted by Ratchet

Tried the EOM update today using the approved FVU method and like a few others I got 'Loading....Loading' and nothing happened. This was with a USB stick that worked fine for previous updates. I then tried a really old 128MB stick and it worked OK first time.

FTAO 'ronat', my HD channels were unaffected by the update (I'm also on Black Hill). I checked the signal quality pre and post update and it was roughly the same 45%-50%.

Thanks for that. Wish I could understand why mine isn't working,as the HD facility was the only reason I bought the DS in the first place.

[JeffD]

Originally Posted by Boogersa

I could well be wrong but was there mention in an earlier post that the update would allow the automatic creation of folders? Has this feature been dropped(and for good)?

It's been delayed. The original plan was to have this as an always on feature in the EoM update, however it was noted that while a lot of users would really like this feature there is also a significant number who wouldn't, this appears to be one of those marmite features that you either love or hate. So in a move that again demostrates that DS are listening to the end users I believe the plan is now is to have this as an option that can be turn on or off.

Originally Posted by Boogersa

One thing I don't like is that when you are watching a program and decide to record it (by pressing the record button, not recording it from the guide) the file name is stored based on the channel it is recording, not with the name of the program.

That's just reminded that a further improvement to Instant Record appear not to have made to this update, will have to check with DS what happened. Basically I asked when pressing record on a live channel you get presented the options "Finish recording after current program" and "Finish recording after next program", when this comes it may also have the effect of doing what you what as I'd expect it to use the EPG info to control the recording.

In the meantime you can set a recording for a program currently showing in the Guide and it will be currently named.

[BobP]

FWIW, I've had no problems with the three upgrades I've done on my DS. I've used a 4Gb TDK TF150 and freshly formatted it (FAT32) each time before unzipping the various upgrade files onto it - this is on the theory that the boot time s/w is primitive, so this provides the cleanest data source.

Bob

[petrev]

Originally Posted by ronat

Thanks for that. Wish I could understand why mine isn't working,as the HD facility was the only reason I bought the DS in the first place.

You can try a Downdate to see if it reverses the problem ?
see post #596

If it does you can do an Application Only 411 update and then backup the channels using the 411 Backup Feature and then do the 411FVU if you wish and Restore again . . .

? ? ?
Pete

[super gran]

Updated ok here, seem to have it down to a fine art at last. I always asked my son to download for me on his pc, then last time he told me to sort it myself so I bought a usb flash drive - that didn't work (downloaded ok on mac, usb recognised by DS but nothing further on back 2 or front) So now we're back on our original routine of he downloads on his pc using his flash drive and I do the upgrade on the DS. He did comment the other day that I'm talking like a geek, I take that as a compliment - thanks everyone for explaining things clearly for a nontechie like myself.

[Cathrin]

Originally Posted by keithr59

There is nothing in the update that I can see that addresses a fan noise issue but then not everyone has experienced this problem. In fact, reading the various postings on this forum it only seems to be a minor issue which a few people like yourself have experienced and apparently can't live with.

If you are now proud owner of a TVOnics PVR I suggest that you move yourself to that forum as it is of little interest to the Digital Stream community.

Oh dear! I'll get me coat! I'm not one to stay where I'm not wanted. ....However, I don't agree that my last point was of little interest to this community. Some of the people who've had major fan noise problems have asked about an alternative PVR. Indeed, I discovered the fanless model on another Digital Stream forum where various fan-noise-afflicted people had asked for a quieter alternative. I was grateful to the person on that forum who brought the DTR-Z500HD to my attention, and I wanted to pass on that information, in case anyone here might benefit from it if they found the DS fan noise unbearable. (A few random samples below just to illustrate that it's more than a minor problem...)

Anyway, my intention was purely to be helpful to anyone who'd given up on the DS due to the fan noise. Genuine good intentions, and certainly no offence intended. Apologies if recommending a quieter model is considered unacceptable around here, but I'm new to the thread (....and I've only lasted three weeks on it before being banished!)

Originally Posted by ciderspace

I went through 4 DS's before finally finding one that works properly. The 1st's fan would come on quite soon after powering on and it was unbearably loud. The replacements were much improved (further helped by v3.57 of the OS) but I could still hear them, even with the current 4th. .

Originally Posted by Boogersa

Just thought I would add my tuppence worth regarding fan noise.

I thought that the fan on my DS was loud and it was a bit of a distraction. I tried the unscrewing tip but it had minimal effect. I certainly could hear it above the noise of the tv. I took it back to JL at the weekend and was expecting to have one which was silent but it has fan noise too although it is not as loud as the first one. I can't hear it as badly whilst the TV is on and it is not too intrusive but it is still there.

Originally Posted by ads43

I didn't ask for a quieter PVR, I asked for a for a different quiet PVR because I am having no luck with the Digital Stream.

I think it is a major flaw if customers have to buy a product and replace, and replace to get something that should be right in the first place (and is pot luck if you get it). I will speak to MIT London and see what they say.

Isolated incidents are understandable but this isn't especially if people are wanting the option to turn off the fan in the March update.

Originally Posted by ads43

Just an update from my original post about fan noise.

I ended up getting my Digital Stream replaced by John Lewis (excellent service - within 2 days).

However the replacement is just as bad as the first one I had, so is likely to go back as well! It actually had the latest update on it.

It's such as shame a great box can have such a major flaw and it appears to be pot luck if you get a quiet or loud one.

I think I'll try the Humax unless anyone can recommend a different quiet PVR.

Originally Posted by Canis Major

DonnyMark,

Interesting you should say that you bought it in november last year. I noticed a loud fan noise on the DS that I bought. I sit just under 3m away from the tv and yet during quiet periods of a show I could clearly hear the fan buzzing away. My 9200t on the other hand is very quiet - I can only hear the fan when I stick my head right next to it. Even though I bought my DS quite recently (from John Lewis) it had a fault indicative of the earlier batches so I've since returned it and I'm sticking with my 9200t for the time being, even though I am itching to go HD.

Originally Posted by DonnyMark

I have mine on an open shelf, with nothing next to it at all, and can honestly say that when the fan kicks in, it is nearly as loud as the xBox that is on the shelf above. I have tried to slacken the screws to see if this helps, it does a little but the noise is still clearly heard unless there is music or constant sound on the program I am watching.

It spoils my enjoyment of watching the program as I am constantly listening for whether the fan is on or off.

I guess some people can live with it more than others.

Its not that I have the sound low either as I turn it up to try and hide the fan noise.

I read about the option to turn it off in the next update, I hope so as this is my only complaint in what is otherwise an excellent product.

Heres hoping......

Originally Posted by ads43

Hi

I have purchased this PVR and been using it for the last couple of days. I really like it apart from the fan noise.

I have installed the latest updates, but there is still a lot of regular noise from the fan.

The PVR is silent for about 30 mins, then the fan kicks in for another 30 mins, then it goes silent again for 30 mins, then the fan comes on and carries on like this.

Unfortunately the fan noise can be heard above the TV.

Is this how the fan normally works or have I been unlucky and should try and get a replacement?

I have read about loosening the screws but don't want to play around in case it has to go back.

Would the fan on the Humax work the same way or is it quieter?

Thanks in advance

[Darth_terra]

Originally Posted by super gran

Updated ok here, seem to have it down to a fine art at last. I always asked my son to download for me on his pc, then last time he told me to sort it myself so I bought a usb flash drive - that didn't work (downloaded ok on mac, usb recognised by DS but nothing further on back 2 or front) So now we're back on our original routine of he downloads on his pc using his flash drive and I do the upgrade on the DS. He did comment the other day that I'm talking like a geek, I take that as a compliment - thanks everyone for explaining things clearly for a nontechie like myself.

if the one you bought was the same spec as your sons it should work, unless it's formated to use some other file format instead of FAT or FAT32, if it's NTFS or some other format then the DS wont be able to read it but can still detect that a usb deveice is connected, might be worth having a look as to what file format your flash drive is using.

[Mark4]

So no fix yet for controlling the status bar and guidance message timeouts ? Is that still in the wishlist, or is it unfixable ?

[Ray Welshman]

Originally Posted by Mark4

So no fix yet for controlling the status bar and guidance message timeouts ? Is that still in the wishlist, or is it unfixable ?

Hi Mark, why don't you just turn the guidance messages off? in the preference menu.

Regards, Ray W.

[greyrider]

I know Iplayer isn't working yet, but is there anything else to be gained by adding the box to a network?

[JeffD]

Originally Posted by greyrider

I know Iplayer isn't working yet, but is there anything else to be gained by adding the box to a network?

There's nothing to be gained from being connected to a network at the moment.

Although the DS software is now IPlayer compatible, there's still stuff that needs to be done to get BBC approval, so it's still not 100% certain yet that we'll see it.

[greyrider]

Poo. Vague thoughts on being able to stream the odd item across from the PC shall remain so then (sigh).

[daveh48]

Hi,

Originally Posted by lancsuser

forgot to mention that first rear update failed with a cheap(free) 1gb key, 2nd "identical" key worked. first key had other stuff in the root, 2nd had just update files, both were recognized. will try failed key with just update files at next update for info.

Just for info.....I use a "SanDisk cruzer 4GB" and this also has some backed-up PS3 games save's in the root too and not had any problems.

Cheers,

Dave.

[IanS]

Originally Posted by JeffD

Although the DS software is now IPlayer compatible, there's still stuff that needs to be done to get BBC approval, so it's still not 100% certain yet that we'll see it.

Wasn't there a mention in this thread that the new Sony PVR was being promoted on the basis of iPlayer functionality? With Sony being a pretty big player I would have thought that the BBC would have been working alongside them and would have had some roadmap already agreed internally.

[davidoak]

Just a quickie...did the new FVU using a Lexar 4GB drive and it went - like those previously - perfectly well. Faster than last time too! So thanks DSK and all here for continuing help and ongoing improvements.

[Mark4]

Originally Posted by Ray Welshman

Hi Mark, why don't you just turn the guidance messages off? in the preference menu.

Regards, Ray W.

Ray

Guidance Setting doesn't stick for me. And the status bar's overly long timeout is more annoying to me than the guidance message, so that's really where I'd like to see the improvement.

[JeffD]

Originally Posted by IanS

Wasn't there a mention in this thread that the new Sony PVR was being promoted on the basis of iPlayer functionality? With Sony being a pretty big player I would have thought that the BBC would have been working alongside them and would have had some roadmap already agreed internally.

The problem is that the BBC have moved the goal posts. For any product to get the MHEG iPlayer functionality it must pass the new D-Book 6.2.1 tests and also some BBC testing before it can gain approval from the DTG organisation. Any product released last year would have been originally tested against D-Book 6.1. Needless to say DS are doing everything to try and get us the iPlayer but for the moment some barriers have been put in the way, it's strange as you'd think the BBC would want to get access to the iPlayer to as many people as possible.

[pippin]

Picked up my new 8205 from JL and just got it setup.

I'm getting occassional audio crackle/dropouts on BBC1HD. Galaxy Quest was on and everytime the alien men spoke you'd get a crackle.. like it was a certain frequency that was causing it.
Audio on all other channels, including the other HD channels is fine.

Any ideas?


Other than that.. very impressed with the HD picture quality. The folks have Virgin Media HD and the DS seems far superior to me.
SD picture quality is pants though

[daveh48]

Hi,

Originally Posted by pippin

Picked up my new 8205 from JL and just got it setup.

I'm getting occassional audio crackle/dropouts on BBC1HD. Galaxy Quest was on and everytime the alien men spoke you'd get a crackle.. like it was a certain frequency that was causing it.
Audio on all other channels, including the other HD channels is fine.

Any ideas?


Other than that.. very impressed with the HD picture quality. The folks have Virgin Media HD and the DS seems far superior to me.
SD picture quality is pants though

What version software etc have you got?

There has been some sound problems in the past, mainly on the BBC HD channels and one of the updates cured it.....sorry not sure which one.

The latest update was released 31st March and can be downloaded from the MIT website MIT London Ltd. and a how to video is also on there MIT London Ltd. or just check out previous posts in this thread or here DigitalStream DHR-8205 FAQ Thread ( + DHR-8203U and DHR-8206U) for more info

Cheers,

Dave.

[jfsebastian]

Originally Posted by Mark4

Guidance Setting doesn't stick for me. And the status bar's overly long timeout is more annoying to me than the guidance message, so that's really where I'd like to see the improvement.

Have you set guidance off and guidance message pop-up off? The timeout for the status bar is a little long but you can press exit to remove it immediately.

[pTd]

Originally Posted by Cathrin

...

Anyway, my intention was purely to be helpful to anyone who'd given up on the DS due to the fan noise. Genuine good intentions, and certainly no offence intended. Apologies if recommending a quieter model is considered unacceptable around here, but I'm new to the thread (....and I've only lasted three weeks on it before being banished!)

I wouldn't worry about that. Three weeks is about twice as long as he's been a member of the forum, let alone the thread. Good quality first hand information is the whole point of these forums after all, and you've provided it. And it will influence my decision whether or not to try the DS.

[rip82]

Originally Posted by pippin

Picked up my new 8205 from JL and just got it setup.

I'm getting occassional audio crackle/dropouts on BBC1HD. Galaxy Quest was on and everytime the alien men spoke you'd get a crackle.. like it was a certain frequency that was causing it.
Audio on all other channels, including the other HD channels is fine.

Any ideas?


Other than that.. very impressed with the HD picture quality. The folks have Virgin Media HD and the DS seems far superior to me.
SD picture quality is pants though

Regarding your SD picture quality, mine is very sharp and I am on 1080i. Have you been into preferences and used Picture control also you might like to reset your picture control on your TV as well.

[pippin]

Originally Posted by daveh48

Hi,

What version software etc have you got?

System information shows..

Hardware: 0001
Micom: 1.33
Kernel: 2.6.18-7.1 #2 SMP Tue Feb 1 12:03:11 KST 2011
MHEG: 2.6.0
Application: 4.03.r7901

[IanS]

Originally Posted by JeffD

The problem is that the BBC have moved the goal posts. For any product to get the MHEG iPlayer functionality it must pass the new D-Book 6.2.1 tests and also some BBC testing before it can gain approval from the DTG organisation. Any product released last year would have been originally tested against D-Book 6.1. Needless to say DS are doing everything to try and get us the iPlayer but for the moment some barriers have been put in the way, it's strange as you'd think the BBC would want to get access to the iPlayer to as many people as possible.

Ah, thanks for the update, I was not aware of that.

Any idea as to whether D-Book 6.2.1 is causing SD-Korea any issues? Or is it just a case of having to jump through more hoops to prove its adherence?



And yes, having made a pretty big song & dance about iPlayer on various mobile devices, you would have thought that they would have applied the same urgency to "proper" PVRs and display setups (after all, who wants to watch a 60-min programme on an iPhone screen?)

[IanS]

Originally Posted by jfsebastian

Have you set guidance off and guidance message pop-up off?

In addition to that, I had a problem after the EoN update where I could not suppress those messages, regardless of the settings chosen. I was advised to perform a full reset and the set the Guidance options. That worked for me (although I did have to go through a complete retune, as well as setting up my timers again. It's much better now with the backup/restore option).

[JeffD]

Originally Posted by IanS

Any idea as to whether D-Book 6.2.1 is causing SD-Korea any issues? Or is it just a case of having to jump through more hoops to prove its adherence?

The DS has been fully compliant to D-Book 6.2.1 since the December update, so yes it's the powers that be in this country making DS jump through more hoops, sorry but I can't go into any more detail than that.

[Digit]

Originally Posted by pippin

Picked up my new 8205 from JL and just got it setup.

I'm getting occassional audio crackle/dropouts on BBC1HD. Galaxy Quest was on and everytime the alien men spoke you'd get a crackle.. like it was a certain frequency that was causing it.
Audio on all other channels, including the other HD channels is fine.

Any ideas?


Other than that.. very impressed with the HD picture quality. The folks have Virgin Media HD and the DS seems far superior to me.
SD picture quality is pants though

I was also getting this noise on Galaxy Quest but seems to be fine now.