PS3 5.1 surround sound problem

[paulflee]

Help Please

I have conected my PS3 to my Philips all in one DVD for surround sound. I get 5.1 for games but for blueray it clicks into Pro Logic and makes a low clicking noise. Anyone had this and know the cure?

[Sephiroth0000]

Originally Posted by paulflee

Help Please

I have conected my PS3 to my Philips all in one DVD for surround sound. I get 5.1 for games but for blueray it clicks into Pro Logic and makes a low clicking noise. Anyone had this and know the cure?

Have you checked your settings under the VIDEO option? How do you have your PS3 audio connected to your Philips 5.1? If it is via OPTICAL then go to VIDEO SETTINGS and change the audio output from LINEAR PCM to BITSTREAM. Also rerun the AUDIO SETUP and make sure you click on OPTICAL and AUTOMATIC so it applies the audio formats your 5.1 can decode

Hope that helps

[paulflee]

Sound is changed to Bitstream. I output via HDMI to my Plasma which is then connected to my surround via digital co ax. So I'm outputting via bitstream and have the hdmi set for 5.1.

[Sephiroth0000]

Originally Posted by paulflee

Sound is changed to Bitstream. I output via HDMI to my Plasma which is then connected to my surround via digital co ax. So I'm outputting via bitstream and have the hdmi set for 5.1.

Have you set up the audio as CO'ax under the audio settings?

[paulflee]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth0000

Have you set up the audio as CO'ax under the audio settings?

Wasn't aware you could do that. Is that under sound settings?

[clc.sheff]

Are you sure it's not something to do with outputting optical from the plasma? I tried your set up with my telly and found that the optical out on the plasma could not handle certain stuff so it came out as sterio (showing as pro logic II on receiver). I just swapped optical straight into amp and got surround on all formats

[paulflee]

Originally Posted by clc.sheff

Are you sure it's not something to do with outputting optical from the plasma? I tried your set up with my telly and found that the optical out on the plasma could not handle certain stuff so it came out as sterio (showing as pro logic II on receiver). I just swapped optical straight into amp and got surround on all formats

I have the Xbox running 5.1 through the tv and it works fine. DVD on the PS3 plays at 5.1 on the surround as does games so it's an issue with blueray.

[medl14971]

Not to sure but i remember reading something about the DRM on Bluray prevents the sound being pass thru the TV

Might be wrong

[paulflee]

Originally Posted by medl14971

Not to sure but i remember reading something about the DRM on Bluray prevents the sound being pass thru the TV

Might be wrong

Interesting, how would the telly know though? Surly all the PS3 knows is to send 5.1 through HDMI.

[clc.sheff]

Originally Posted by medl14971

Not to sure but i remember reading something about the DRM on Bluray prevents the sound being pass thru the TV

Might be wrong

That's what I thought. something to do with True hd or Dolby digital in bluerays. I might be wrong here but they can't pass over an optical connection cos it's too restrictive. You have to HDMI straight into a suitably rated amp and then to telly

Paulflee I can't remember what the options are but you could try disabling some of the sound settings in the ps3 and see if you can get the standard 5.1 sound to pass through (i.e. it might be possible do disable the signal your telly can't pass through )

Hope this helps as it's just about all I know about sound

Edit: It's the new lossless formats it struggles with - Dolby True HD and DTS-master audio

[paulflee]

I'll maybe restirct the PS3 to just 5.1 or 5.1dts output. See if it's trying to put too much through the HDMI.

Edit: And turn of the optical settings. maybe it thinks the 5.1 is going through them. Anyone got any experiance of this with PS3 and HDMI?

[Uridium]

Optical (Toslink or digital Co-Ax) does not have enough bandwidth to carry DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD formats.

The PS3 is outputting these over HDMI to your TV but the TV isn't capable of passing these through to your surround system.

You can check what format the PS3 is outputting by pressing select during BR playback and looking at the audio codec dispalyed at the top of the screen.

Afraid your not going to be able to get HD audio formats so you will need to choose the standard DTS/DD soundtracks.

[paulflee]

Originally Posted by Uridium

Optical (Toslink or digital Co-Ax) does not have enough bandwidth to carry DTS-MA or Dolby TrueHD formats.

The PS3 is outputting these over HDMI to your TV but the TV isn't capable of passing these through to your surround system.

You can check what format the PS3 is outputting by pressing select during BR playback and looking at the audio codec dispalyed at the top of the screen.

Afraid your not going to be able to get HD audio formats so you will need to choose the standard DTS/DD soundtracks.

DTS/DD is fine as that's all the dvd will play. So if I restrict it to DTS then the tv should pass that through.

The display said 5.1ch when I checked. It's wierd why it reverts to pro Logic and only for Blue ray not DVD playback and game playback which both do 5.1.

[clc.sheff]

Originally Posted by paulflee

I'll maybe restirct the PS3 to just 5.1 or 5.1dts output. See if it's trying to put too much through the HDMI.

Edit: And turn of the optical settings. maybe it thinks the 5.1 is going through them. Anyone got any experiance of this with PS3 and HDMI?

The ps3 will only output sound via HDMI OR Optical. If you've got sound outputting over HDMI to telly that should be job done (i.e. no need to play with optical settings). That's my understanding anyway

The pro logic to me says that the amp is receiving a two channel signal. I'm not sure DVD's and Games have the lossless audio encoded in them so that makes sense to me, which is why your amp gets 5.1 sound with them. Again I'm sure there's more to it than that but hopefully de-selecting in the ps3 menu will sort it

[paulflee]

[/QUOTE] The pro logic to me says that the amp is receiving a two channel signal. I'm not sure DVD's and Games have the lossless audio encoded in them so that makes sense to me, which is why your amp gets 5.1 sound with them. Again I'm sure there's more to it than that but hopefully de-selecting in the ps3 menu will sort it [/QUOTE]

So how do I deselect DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD. Is it on the Video playback menu under blueray?