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12-11-2006, 4:27 PM
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http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/for...ide-214130.php
Read this over at Kotaku. And it really sums up what happened on the release day of the PS3 in Japan.
Even where I was waiting there was a dodgy guy in a suite trying to get homeless guys in the line in front of me. I shouted at them in Japanese to get to the back. Of course they did, but they were still there later on with an additional 20 homeless looking people. There were also a bunch of chinese people in front of me who had been waiting longer than me.
These people all probably got PS3s which would have been handed to their "bosses" and sold online for proffit.
Only way to stop this behaviour is to stop the online sales. Stop E-Bay.
Its a shame for the true gamers that cant get one.
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12-11-2006, 4:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AML  | No, the only way to stop this is for manufacturers to have an acceptable level of stock ready when they release a new console
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12-11-2006, 5:03 PM
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Why can't they just use a pre-order system like most of he civalised world uses. would save a lot of moaning if you could only get a new console with a preorder slip and only issue the same ammount of preorder slips as consoles. Simple really
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12-11-2006, 5:08 PM
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Originally Posted by AML http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/for...ide-214130.php
Read this over at Kotaku. And it really sums up what happened on the release day of the PS3 in Japan.
Even where I was waiting there was a dodgy guy in a suite trying to get homeless guys in the line in front of me. I shouted at them in Japanese to get to the back. Of course they did, but they were still there later on with an additional 20 homeless looking people. There were also a bunch of chinese people in front of me who had been waiting longer than me.
These people all probably got PS3s which would have been handed to their "bosses" and sold online for proffit.
Only way to stop this behaviour is to stop the online sales. Stop E-Bay.
Its a shame for the true gamers that cant get one. | It's a sad fact in your neck of the woods that people do get exploited by other 
I agree though that a pre order system would be good. Why don't you guy's have one? Even Nintendo don't use a pre order system there do they?
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12-11-2006, 7:52 PM
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The only way to stop this is a global launch in the same week with plenty of available units, with a global launch date and no stock shortages there would be no market for these people.  | |
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12-11-2006, 8:25 PM
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The people doing this sort of thing are merely exploiting the market. I fail to see what is so morally reprehensible about this. Surely if you are that desperate for a PS3 you'd have preordered months in advance.
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12-11-2006, 9:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pooon Why can't they just use a pre-order system like most of he civalised world uses. | Doesn't work most of the time, look at XBox360.
but...the PS2 pre-order system was very good.
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12-11-2006, 10:40 PM
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ive read about that before, the same thing was happening with the ds lite.
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12-11-2006, 11:09 PM
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Sorry, one way is to stop ebay?
lololroflcopter!!!0ne.
Its capitalism, were free to spend our money on what we want, and free (most of the time) to sell our goods for what we want.
If someone wants to buy something in demand and sell it for more, thats the basics of ecconomy, good for them , sux to be you if you miss out. No one forces anyone to spend over the odds on a console just because its launch week.
As said, its a problem because sony cant make enough right now, wait a few months and they'll be on the shelves everywhere, piled high.
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13-11-2006, 4:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RobDickinson Sorry, one way is to stop ebay?
lololroflcopter!!!0ne.
Its capitalism, were free to spend our money on what we want, and free (most of the time) to sell our goods for what we want.
If someone wants to buy something in demand and sell it for more, thats the basics of ecconomy, good for them , sux to be you if you miss out. No one forces anyone to spend over the odds on a console just because its launch week.
As said, its a problem because sony cant make enough right now, wait a few months and they'll be on the shelves everywhere, piled high. | So you think that its ok to exploit people and cheat others just so long as you make money?
hmm, ok. if thats capitalism then i want no part of it.
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13-11-2006, 7:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AML So you think that its ok to exploit people and cheat others just so long as you make money?
hmm, ok. if thats capitalism then i want no part of it. | Unfortunately, that is Capitalism. Most businesses exploit people for the benefit of the business. Rarely does a business set out to help people prosper and then if they happen to make a little bit of money on the side, that's an added bonus.
Thing is, the people that are paying for new consoles at 1000 each, are probably the stupidly rich (or just stupid) and most of the people selling them are the not so very rich. Wait a couple of months and the prices will halve. There'll be more than just Ridge Racer 7 that's worth playing & the hardware glitches that will inevitably affect the early consoles will be sorted out.
I for one will sell mine as soon as it arrives, as I have RR6 on the 360 and can wait a couple of months for that 'opening the box of a new console' feeling. Anyway, the Wii's just round the corner and Nintendo have apparently got their act together. As well as Zelda!
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13-11-2006, 8:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AML So you think that its ok to exploit people and cheat others just so long as you make money?
hmm, ok. if thats capitalism then i want no part of it. |    
Exploit?? Dont buy one at stupid prices and they'll be stuck with it. Supply, meet demand, AML meet the real world.
If a few homeless peoples lives are improved a bit by this then at least the ps3 has achieved something!!
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13-11-2006, 9:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AML So you think that its ok to exploit people and cheat others just so long as you make money?
hmm, ok. if thats capitalism then i want no part of it. | Who are the exploited?
Who are the cheated?
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13-11-2006, 10:26 AM
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What a great article. I had no idea that kind of stuff was going on, it certainly was very eye-opening!
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13-11-2006, 10:40 AM
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It's on BBC news too. What I find sad is that people are that desperate to have one. What happened to patience? Clearly this is why UK is in debt, the 'I must have it now' syndrone. I'll buy one, in due course, just not queueing all night for it, or paying more than list for it. If that involves waiting, well, that's life.
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