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Old 23-10-2009, 6:39 AM   #1
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Borderlands - Play and Help thread

No thread? I never get to make these!

So my copy turned up and i really like it.

Impressions? Very little RPGing, lots of shooting, a good amount of looking at this gun or that gun, and trying to decide which you want to use, some exploring. As a shooter it ticks all the contemporary boxes except no cover mechanic, and generally plays somewhere between Rainbow Six and Unreal Tournament - yeah thats vague, but it depends on the level of the things you're fighting, some are so tough you need to be careful, peaking out from cover, popping a few shots off, duck back. Others enemies are so easy you can run n gun thru 10 of them giggling as you do

Silly gun-love fun / 10


Anyone know which element is best? Fire seems to add more damage, but things can attack you while on fire, whereas Shock seems to stun them, so potentially much more useful? I havent found any other elemental weapons yet...
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Old 24-10-2009, 9:47 AM   #2
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

I bought it, and its up for sale already, totally not what i was hoping for.
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Old 24-10-2009, 10:29 AM   #3
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

My son wants this for Xmas so I cant play until then unfortunately. I like the "lots of fat loot" mechanic and always being rewarded so you can upgrade all the time. Minds me of the play mechanics of Monster hunter freedom; always fighting the next boss or group of monsters so you can get that elusive armor or weapon.

Looking forward to it. The only downside is that the rewards system is first come first served so might be best to play with friends who share the spoils.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Loving this so far. Bought yesterday as an impulse buy for some co op fun with mates, but played it for a few hours last night on single player and its even keeping me off Uncharted 2! Love the style of the game and really enjoying the humour. Too bad I'm going to see Green Day at the o2 tonight so I won't be on it for a while..........
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Old 24-10-2009, 1:02 PM   #5
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

I just keep dieing all the time, get attacked all the time by everything nearby and use every bullet i have and still die.
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Old 25-10-2009, 10:56 PM   #6
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

I'm thinking of getting this game, but was wondering can you store weapons/items in your safehouse, like in Fallout 3 ??
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Old 25-10-2009, 11:55 PM   #7
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Looking at getting this..
but im just wondering if its like a mix of fallout 3/red faction but without the destructive environment??
love fallout but hated red faction... so could be ok??

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Old 26-10-2009, 11:00 AM   #8
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

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can you store weapons/items in your safehouse, like in Fallout 3 ??
No. You can only store stuff in your personal backpack. This can be expanded by certain quests, up to 42 items storable.

To get around it you do the classic "Mule character" exploit which MMORPGs do - ie: make a secondary character. Start a splitscreen co-op game with yourself, load in your main character and your mule, drop items on the ground, mule picks them up, exit & save. Now said items are stored away till you want them.

But TBH it wasnt often i wanted more items than i could carry, probably the level 15-20 range when you're finding lots of stuff but havent expanded your backpack yet.

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wondering if its like a mix of fallout 3/red faction but without the destructive environment??
Sort of. Very Fallout 3 in appearance superficially, but more like Red Faction in gameplay. Really the best description is it is a first-person shooter Diablo. If you've ever played Diablo then that totally nails it; mid sized levels, not fully open world, with lots of looting, very light on RPG and lots of combat.

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I just keep dieing all the time, get attacked all the time by everything nearby and use every bullet i have and still die.
Maybe you're going into areas too hard for your level yet? Best option is to follow the early quests to start with, and if things seem too tough then run away and level up a bit.

A mate had a problem in that he was trying to play splitscreen with his wife (whos not a great gamer) and of course things are harder with two people. He was getting murdered and about to sell. He did co-op with me, and "suddenly" it was all so much easier and enjoyable Once he got over the level 5 hump and you start getting abilities it gets easier too.

I've finished the story on singleplayer now, so i'll do some coop with mates, and try to level up to 50 for the Platinum. Quite enjoyed it, and much more fun than Fallout 3 with i found a bit boring (i liked Oblivion), although i do intend to get the GOTY edition of that sometime and finish it... So just to reiterate this is a shooter first and foremost, and very like Diablo (do an internet search) with respect to RPG elements and item/looting.

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Old 26-10-2009, 12:21 PM   #9
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Still can't decide whether I like this or not. I'm up to level 11. Think it's a bit too much shooter and not enough RPG for my tastes.
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Old 26-10-2009, 9:15 PM   #10
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Just ordered this from shopto, looks like fun and best of all it has splitscreen local co-op!
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Old 28-10-2009, 1:30 PM   #11
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Spent a good chunk of yesterday playing this. Really liking it so far playing as Mordecai the hunter.


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best of all it has splitscreen local co-op!
Yeah I wish more games would be local splitscreen co-op much more fun when your mates actually beside ya. Now that alot more people have tv's big enough to justify splitscreen no games have it but back when I was playing on a 14" portable I was playing 4 player goldeneye. Cant even imagine going back to that.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

I just beat the game and currently ranked 37. Impressions are good, for the most part.

Biggest problem is playing with people your own rank. I either played with friends or by myself. Never with a random because you could rarely find a random roughly the same rank as you, and nothing bugged me more then being ranked 30 and having someone who is ranked 20 tagging along doing nothing but dieing at the ends of BadAss Bruisers who are ranked 10 classes above them.

The only way it will work is if you join the lower ranked persons' game and do his missions as they will be more on par with his rank, and you can just assist in schwacking the extremely lower ranked enemies. Moral: if you have to play with someone who is lower ranked, join there game and do there missions.

Also the game is too spread out, having to transfer between 4 levels to do a single mission is ridiculous and in some levels you spend more time on the load screen then you actually do inside the level for that mission. Takes about 2 minutes to load every level. Quite annoying.

Those are the only real negatives about the game that were noteworthy enough to be mentioned.

I can also say that the soldier has the best special ability. I don't know how many times my buddy (who was a soldier) saved the team with his gattling drone. Especially since we could all huddle behind its shield and get health revival while we were there. Sirens phasewalk is also pretty hand if you get low on health and are standing in the middle of a killzone. Just flip that on and phasewalk out of there without worry of getting killed. The Phasewalk is also handy for missions when you are in a hurry whoever is the siren can just skip through enemy lines using phasewalk recover the objective and phasewalk back out without going through all the time/trouble of killing all the enemies. Especially handy in a couple levels that seem to have never ending supplies of obscenely hard enemies. Mortekys (sp?) Bloodwing seems OK, but doesn't benefit the team at all. And Berserker is downright lame.

I should also mention that if you are playing with someone to share EVERYTHING. Having one guy with all good guns and another guy with nothign you might as well just be playing with a lower ranked person (read above). Sure having all badass guns may seem sweet, but in CO-OP you share everything. XP earned, Money, Points, Objectives, and most trophies earned. So making it harder on everyone so you can be the rambo of the group is pointless. Co-op is a perfect example of "you are only as strong as your weakest person".

Sorry for being a long post. Just alot to mention.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Yeah Gearbox has mentioned they might patch the rewards system if ppl ask for it...I hope they do, id hate to loose my temper with some *unt who steals all the loot and disconnects.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Played this for 4 hours and have had enough, found it very boring.
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Played this for 4 hours and have had enough, found it very boring.
Single or coop?
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

I've read a lot of people find this game boring, why is this? Is it because the gameplay mechanics involve only running/gunning?

Is it actually fun wondering the world looking for loot/discovering locations? I really enjoyed Fallout 3 but am still not sure whether to purchase this game...
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I've read a lot of people find this game boring, why is this? Is it because the gameplay mechanics involve only running/gunning?

Is it actually fun wondering the world looking for loot/discovering locations? I really enjoyed Fallout 3 but am still not sure whether to purchase this game...
Tbh from the moment I started the game I was left with a feeling of "meh", hate that expression but it suits how I felt.The world is open but fairly un-interesting to look at and looting soon got very tedious for me,opening every little box and checking every little pile of crud for a few dollars is not my idea of fun at all.The art style is striking at first but I soon realised the design was very baron and has no personality or depth to it.

The missions are incredibly tedious and un-imaginative,basically "go there,killx amount of y" etc etc blah blah blah.The humour went straight over my head,maybe at 31 I am too old for the target audience or maybe it just ant funny?

I also found the weapon skins/design very bland and lacking any real detail,people will say this goes with the art style but I say it's just lazyness.

Positives? The actual gunplay mechanics are well done and there are shed loads of weapons to choose from.The level up system and weapon/shield power ups are very user friendly (although rpg fans may call them basic and dull)

The co-op mode is much better than the drab single player but not good enough to warrant me keeping the game.If you like this game then good for you,have fun with it,but for me this is a major snoozefest.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

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The missions are incredibly tedious and un-imaginative,basically "go there,killx amount of y"
Hmm, sounds like 90% of shooters out their - i can only imagine how much you'll hate CoD-type games which are all the same and just about killing But i know what you mean, i'll trade this for Fallout 3 which i;ve finished, but i enjoy it for being a little different, and letting me play online coop with mates.

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Also the game is too spread out, having to transfer between 4 levels to do a single mission is ridiculous
Pretty early on you get the ability to transfer between "New-U" stations, i found that cuts down on the level transitions a lot? But yes the loads could have been a little better.
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Is it actually fun wondering the world looking for loot/discovering locations? I really enjoyed Fallout 3 but am still not sure whether to purchase this game...
So far ive really enjoyed playing through the game and have found that discovering loot from enemies and looking for items hidden all over the place is part of the main reason im enjoying it. I'm also only playing single player and probably only ever will play single player.
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Is it actually fun wondering the world looking for loot/discovering locations? I really enjoyed Fallout 3 but am still not sure whether to purchase this game...
In a word No. Fallout 3 is superior in every way.
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Hmm, sounds like 90% of shooters out their - i can only imagine how much you'll hate CoD-type games which are all the same and just about killing But i know what you mean, i'll trade this for Fallout 3 which i;ve finished, but i enjoy it for being a little different, and letting me play online coop with mates.

Pretty early on you get the ability to transfer between "New-U" stations, i found that cuts down on the level transitions a lot? But yes the loads could have been a little better.
Oh, no doubt those stations cut down on time. But a few missions are extremely unclear to where they need to be turned in for reward. I remember one mission I thought I would transport and went back to the original mission posting...had to go level by level back to find where the mission needed redemption at. This problem would be solved with a map of the ENTIRE world...not just level by level. Hell a map of the ENTIRE world would make alot of things easier, including finding missions you haven't done.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Apprently from teh Gametrailers video review, the first few hours are quite tedious, then the game really picks up after that.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Those of you that have this game, would you recommend?

Always on the look out for good co-op games that I can play with a friend.
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Oh, no doubt those stations cut down on time. But a few missions are extremely unclear to where they need to be turned in for reward.
When you hold Select and go to the mission tab, use up/down and go to the mission - along the top it should say who gave it to you eg: "SCOOTER" or "DR ZED", if you've remembered where these people live, you can fast travel back to them. Not ideal i know, but gives you a big hint as to the location of the quest giver.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Stinja- 90% of shooters out there are not rpg shooters are they? You cannot compare call of duty games with borderlands.Rpg means varied missions usually,and unfortunately this game is anything but varied.I want those 4 hours back! :/
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quit bitching and sell the game lol :P

give you £15 for it.
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quit bitching and sell the game lol :P

give you £15 for it.
Just giving my opinion on the game.Already sold it,got lot more than £15 though

No need for people to defend liking this game,I just felt it was terrible.
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When you hold Select and go to the mission tab, use up/down and go to the mission - along the top it should say who gave it to you eg: "SCOOTER" or "DR ZED", if you've remembered where these people live, you can fast travel back to them. Not ideal i know, but gives you a big hint as to the location of the quest giver.
Yes anyone who has played the game knows that, but that isn't what I was talking about. Some missions have a different end point then beginning point. So knowing you recieved the mission in New Haven is pretty worthless when you turn it in on East B, after being on the trash coast. Teleport back to New Haven, then have to travel level by level back towards East B.
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Re: Borderlands - Play and Help thread

Picked this up yesterday and rather enjoying it. Things did start off a bit slow but are picking up now that i've reached level 10 or so. Quite fancy some co-op, so if anyone is up for a blast, feel free to add me. Might even dig out my mic for this one
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I thought this game would be much more popular. Isnt there anyone up for some co-op? Up to level 21 now and enjoying more the further I get into it!
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