Guitar Hero 5 - Play & Help Thead

Br0ken · 11-09-2009, 10:58 AM

My first ever play and help thread!

Anyway, just got my copy of GH5.

Who's up for some jamming?

SNICK · 11-09-2009, 12:37 PM

I'm going to get a copy after work. Just shopping around for the best deal. Asda have it for £37.71 - going to see what Tesco have it for...might even get the guitar bundle

bring it on.............

Br0ken · 11-09-2009, 12:42 PM

I got mine for £8.99

...traded in Infamous (£20), Killzone 2(£7) Fifa09 (£4!!)

Wingsurfer · 11-09-2009, 1:07 PM

My PS3 was free

...............with a 18 month mobile phone contract

flipfella · 11-09-2009, 1:31 PM

Got my GH5 sat next to my desk at work pre ordered from game with a free copy of world tour and 2 rolling stones track voucher, just tested out the new guitar with frets on fire on my work pc, been fun. Feels a lot better than the GH3 guitars I'm used to (never had world tour before)

Looking forward to playing tonight

fliP.

SNICK · 11-09-2009, 8:55 PM

I can't tell you how much I was looking forward to getting GH5

a tracklist to die for, but after playing the darn thing for a few hours with a few family member I'M DISAPPOINTED

Not with the tracklisting or the new functionality (any combination of instruments) but by the lacklustre sound

Comparing identical tracks (Hungry like the wolf) on GH5 and Rockband 2...the latter has far more clarity, bass notes are more pronounced...infact everything is more musical

Only by cranking up the volume and turning the sub up (to 3 o'clock) do things improve.
I've tried all the sound options (increasing instrument volume) but to little avail.

I'm not saying that the game is bad - but come on Activision doing something to at least match RB on the audio front

Nuggsy · 12-09-2009, 5:44 AM

I'm thinking this & some of the Logitech drums are going to be winging their way to me courtesy of Santa.

Br0ken · 12-09-2009, 9:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SNICK

I can't tell you how much I was looking forward to getting GH5

a tracklist to die for, but after playing the darn thing for a few hours with a few family member I'M DISAPPOINTED

Not with the tracklisting or the new functionality (any combination of instruments) but by the lacklustre sound

I'll have to play without haedphones because everything sounds great to me.

Jon Weaver · 12-09-2009, 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SNICK

Comparing identical tracks (Hungry like the wolf) on GH5 and Rockband 2...the latter has far more clarity, bass notes are more pronounced...infact everything is more musical
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Thats worrying.. For some reason I can't get on with Rocband, where as I love GH:WT..

I have put it down to the fact that for my ears, GH:WT sounds better.. To me, GH sounds like 'studio' music, where as RB sounds 'live'.. When I play Rockband, the music just sounds more muddled and more processed.. I dont' know what it is and can't explain it, but I just don't like it. I just get the feeling that they have taken a 'studio' recording and then processed it to give a 'live' effect?... Where as GH sounds exactly the same as what you would hear if listening to the same tracks from CD.

Have you got GH:WT to compare with?

Jon

SNICK · 12-09-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon Weaver

Have you got GH:WT to compare with?

Jon

Yes I do. I guess like one of the earlier comments - who prefers the GH type sound, I have a preference for RB...which to my ears has more depth, instrument separation and realism.

That said, still love the game - but it could have been so much better

Jon Weaver · 12-09-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SNICK

Yes I do. I guess like one of the earlier comments - who prefers the GH type sound, I have a preference for RB...which to my ears has more depth, instrument separation and realism.

That said, still love the game - but it could have been so much better

So just to clarify.. Do you find that GH5 is different from RB2 AND GH:WT.. Or do you think that GH:WT and GH5 are similar?

If so, I am happy (for the reasons I mentioned above)... But I can see how others might like the sound of RB over GH, but its not for me...

Jon

Stinja · 12-09-2009, 2:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SNICK

the lacklustre sound

Comparing identical tracks (Hungry like the wolf) on GH5 and Rockband 2...the latter has far more clarity, bass notes are more pronounced...infact everything is more musical

People in the 360 GH5 thread have said the same, GH5 is a bit "muddy" sounding. Maybe it's the compression? Or maybe whats decoded dosent suit some amp/TVs? But it has been noted. Still as John Weaver said, it's about preference, and some will prefer one or the other's way.

I've got much teh same problem with The Beatles, to me the sound is like a CD being played, which IMO isnt so good for a game as it disconnects me as being there and playing. Compared that to Rock Band 2 which has much more feeling, IMO obviously.

Not sure about GH5 myself, i kinda liked GHWT, but after swapping to RB2 i havent looked back. Now when i load up GHWT, for say some Tool, i just dont like the way it plays, the interface and the drum compatibility. It does do some stuff better, and GH5 has some nice features again, so not sure if i'd really play it or not?

Does GH5 support edrums better? Cymbal detection, velocity info etc?

Jon Weaver · 12-09-2009, 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinja

Not sure about GH5 myself, i kinda liked GHWT, but after swapping to RB2 i havent looked back. Now when i load up GHWT, for say some Tool, i just dont like the way it plays, the interface and the drum compatibility. It does do some stuff better, and GH5 has some nice features again, so not sure if i'd really play it or not?

Does GH5 support edrums better? Cymbal detection, velocity info etc?

These kind of discussions are an interesting insight... I went for GH because RB2 wasn't out in the UK and even though a lot of people slated it GH:WT, I loved it.

But it was the first game of this type I had ever played so I had nothing to comapre it too.. As soon as RB2 came out I bought it straight away, but I just can't get into it.. At first I thought I had tired of the format.. But as soon as I put GH:WT in I love it again..

There is just something about RB2 that I don't like.. For the record, I am not saying that its bad.. I am saying that for me, I prefer everything about GH... But its interesting how some people are the other way around.. I wouldn't expect this kind of disparity when games are almost identical.

For me the only thing I don't like in both games is the difficulty.. I want the abillty to change the number of buttons AND difficulty independently.. I know I am not alone with this, but I find Normal a bit too easy. But difficult way too hard (mainly because of the extra button).. A lot of people say practice.. But I am almost 40 and feel it.. And I just want to enjoy my games.. I dont' want to have to spend hours practicing.. What I REALLY want is for them to include a Normal+ mode (Or difficult-) mode which has the same number of notes as Difficult, but only 4 buttons.

But a better idea than this would be an option to say:

Number of Buttons: 3, 4 or 5
Number of Notes: Easy/Normal/Difficult/Expert

This would be great, as it would also be possible to play Expert mode, but with only 3 buttons.. If I am honest, this seems a logical, if not obvious idea, but no-one else seems to agree!

Jon

Stinja · 12-09-2009, 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Weaver

I wouldn't expect this kind of disparity when games are almost identical.

Ha ha FIFA or PES?

"Almost identical" and yet blood has been spilled of such marginal differences.

One of the main problems i have with GHTW is the chart track; the button-type of notes seem so much harder to differentiate between whats what - i find the RB2 "blocks" much easier on my eyes when it's all rushing towards you. But as you say it's mostly very marginal.

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For me the only thing I don't like in both games is the difficulty.. I want the abillty to change the number of buttons AND difficulty independently..

But a better idea than this would be an option to say:

Number of Buttons: 3, 4 or 5
Number of Notes: Easy/Normal/Difficult/Expert

I'm much like you (only 39 though you old foggie!), and I've said the same myself in the past; but for drumming it'd be nice to have Hard-level kicking but Expert-level sticking (or similarly for the Medium/Hard split). For people that would complain about scoring, i'd say score at the lowest selection, and job sorted!

So no, you're not alone, but dem dar young 'uns don't think of us oldies and our problems...

Nuggsy · 13-09-2009, 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinja

Ha ha FIFA or PES?

"Almost identical" and yet blood has been spilled of such marginal differences.

One of the main problems i have with GHTW is the chart track; the button-type of notes seem so much harder to differentiate between whats what - i find the RB2 "blocks" much easier on my eyes when it's all rushing towards you. But as you say it's mostly very marginal.

I'm much like you (only 39 though you old foggie!), and I've said the same myself in the past; but for drumming it'd be nice to have Hard-level kicking but Expert-level sticking (or similarly for the Medium/Hard split). For people that would complain about scoring, i'd say score at the lowest selection, and job sorted!

So no, you're not alone, but dem dar young 'uns don't think of us oldies and our problems...

I agree the differences are marginal & both franchises are fantastic but for me Guitar Hero edges it on game play. (Well it does for me at the novice level of playing 3 frets).

In GH I feel like I play more notes & that the timing of the strumming is more in line with the guitar on the actual track.
GH feels as though I can anticipate & strum the notes a fraction of a second earlier than on RB. (I have calibrated the TV).
Because of this GH feels a little bit more natural & involving. Just wish GH could match the RB library in content & cost.

Haven't tried drums yet as I'm waiting for the Logitech drum set to become available - so can't comment on that.

Br0ken · 13-09-2009, 1:50 PM

I too prefer everything inthe guitar hero games over rockband, lots if nice little thinsbin the UI, the fret board etc just look better to me.

Has anyone tried joining random games? I've tried a few times but only joined 1 person so far. Invite works dine at least.

igsta77 · 13-09-2009, 10:35 PM

Ive also picked this up, invite me if you're keen to have a go at online.

psn = igsta77 (add "avf" to invite)

still waiting for european musicstore to open up so i can access my dlc.

mengez · 15-09-2009, 2:35 PM

Just bought today. Don't know why as I've got various other flavours of GH and RB, and I rarely take COD4 out of the machine anyhow!
Feel free to add.

Ben-H · 15-09-2009, 2:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mengez

Just bought today. Don't know why as I've got various other flavours of GH and RB, and I rarely take COD4 out of the machine anyhow!
Feel free to add.

Knew it was only a matter of time till you gave in to temptation!

Br0ken · 16-09-2009, 10:17 AM

11pm tonight, can we get 4 guitarists together for the trophy? And then switch to bass for that one?

honkydonky · 16-09-2009, 11:35 AM

I did a Pro Faceoff online yesterday and 2 other guitarists joined, would 1 more have given the trophy or does it have to be in band mode?

I have got GH5 and RB Beatles this week.

I prefer the look and feel of GH on the whole, I play at medium and it seems too slow on RB throws your timing out
I have the advantage of being able to add to the RB library now which is definitely better supported than GH. And how do they justify £3.19 to import the GHWT disc into GH5 when you have already bought it, thought that was what the code on the instruction book was for

Must say the Hofner bass controller that came with the Beatles RB is superb

mengez · 16-09-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by honkydonky

I prefer the look and feel of GH on the whole, I play at medium and it seems too slow on RB throws your timing out
I have the advantage of being able to add to the RB library now which is definitely better supported than GH. And how do they justify £3.19 to import the GHWT disc into GH5 when you have already bought it, thought that was what the code on the instruction book was for

Haven't put the disc in yet for GH5! I play on medium as well and felt the same about RB, however if you go in to custom settings there is a "hyperspeed" (think that's what it's called) option, if you select that then it plays like GH pretty much.

On the import thing it was the same with importing RB songs to RB2, it's something to do with licensing or so they say!

If anyone wants to play for trophies just add me and if I'm playing GH5 then sure.

Br0ken · 16-09-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Br0ken

11pm tonight, can we get 4 guitarists together for the trophy? And then switch to bass for that one?

Any takers?

honkydonky · 16-09-2009, 2:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Br0ken

Any takers?

I'll try and get on mate

Br0ken · 16-09-2009, 2:46 PM

honky, if you look at your profile here (without signing in) http://profiles.us.playstation.com/p...les/honkydonky

you can see it doesn't show your guitar hero trophies, thats what I was getting at when I pm'ed you the other day

honkydonky · 16-09-2009, 3:15 PM

It shows them on my EU profile though, perhaps if I sign in on my US account it will update them

Br0ken · 16-09-2009, 3:20 PM

EU is fine, US doesn't show them at all for me, not sure if signing in will change that, worth ago.

igsta77 · 16-09-2009, 11:23 PM

i can do tomorrow (thursday night) for trophies if people are keen.

psn igsta77

anytime after 10pm

Br0ken · 16-09-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by igsta77

i can do tomorrow (thursday night) for trophies if people are keen.

psn igsta77

anytime after 10pm

Might be on, we'll try doing band challenges.

jim, honk's and I were online tonight so you can make it a foursome

mengez · 17-09-2009, 8:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Br0ken

Might be on, we'll try doing band challenges.

jim, honk's and I were online tonight so you can make it a foursome

Sorry about last night, I have only just started the game so I didn't know how to set anything up and only have a few unlocks in career mode. I knocked off a few more songs once you and HD had gone.
Don't know if you can complete challenges in quickplay or not?