[dodger747]

This is the place for discussing all things relating to backwards compatibility. Any performance issues, bugs, questions etc should be made in this thread.

The official Sony BC list can be found HERE

Due to a recent increase in questions relating to the BC capability of the PS3, I think this is the best solution for the time being...

[quidditys_shore]

and now the BC site is updated to 1.7!

i'm pretty pleased to see rez has gone from not working at all to a fully working!

[bladesew]

Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but all my PS2 games seem to run in a window (losing about an inch top, bottom and sides on a 32' screen) - any way they can be run fullscreen?

[mray]

I bought 3 games yesterday. Smash Court Tennis 2, Suikoden 4 and 5.
NONE of them work in the PS3.

[BlueGecko]

Thinking of getting God of War 2 to play on the PS3 as there aren't so many games out yet.

Question is do i need a memory card for the PS2 or can I use the PS3's hard drive? The instruction manual is quite vague. Also, as it's a new game I guess it should work OK?

thanks!

[Kube]

You can format a section of the PS3s memory to act as a PS2 card. Joy! And God of War 2 will definetly work fine.

[BlueGecko]

That sounds good - is it easy? I guess the PS3 joysticks work as normal for PS2 games?

[Moogle]

Originally Posted by BlueGecko

That sounds good - is it easy? I guess the PS3 joysticks work as normal for PS2 games?

Yes it's very simple to create virtual memory cards. They are the same size as normal official PS2 memory cards so once they fill up you have to create another one. The PS3 control pads work just fine for PS2 games the only thing you won't get is the rumble.

[The Fuggler]

Any news on Brian Lara Cricket 2007?

[bladesew]

Does anyone have an answer to my question above - can you run PS2 games fullscreen on the PS3 or are they all windowboxed?

[quidditys_shore]

Originally Posted by BlueGecko

as it's a new game I guess it should work OK?

yeah its working great! the missus hasnt stopped playing all morning! we got it the special edition from shopto deliverey by recorded mail this morning it was £29.99 AND you get king of fighters maximum inpact for free!

[insomniak123]

Originally Posted by bladesew

Does anyone have an answer to my question above - can you run PS2 games fullscreen on the PS3 or are they all windowboxed?

i'd like to know the answer to this too. maybe do a poll?

ps2 games - does everyone have them windowed??

all mine (all three of mine ) mercenaries, burnout : revenge, & GTA:LCS all play with about an inch missing round each side

[KILLER NADS]

i cant fully remember but i think the last time i played ff12 a few weeks back it was proper full screen going through hdmi cable!

just the movies were letterboxed but thats how it is on ps2 for the movies too!

[bladesew]

All seven of mine run windowboxed - including Forbidden Siren, Project Zero 2, GTA Vice City, Haunting Ground, Shadow of Memories, True Crime LA and Fahrenheit.

[Acceber]

I have been playing Beyond Good & Evil again on the PS3. It also plays in a 'widescreen' mode and I haven't been able to change this. The graphics look very, very nice. However, according to the BC list the game is meant to play with noticeable issues. The only issue I have so far noticed is:

Black Isle - meeting with De Castellac. At the dock in the Black Isle, the water is extremely choppy (graphically choppy ), so much so that Jade and Peyj look like they get bucked out of their ship onto the land. However, this doesn't affect gameplay in any way. I will report more issues as I find them.

It is said that Resident Evil 4 is playable without problem now, and Pro Evo 6,. Good news!

But FF12 has not fixed into perfect still...

Another funny thing is, MGS 3 disappears from the BC list? I can only see MGS 2 on it....

http://faq.eu.playstation.com/bc/bcGames.htm

[CeeJay775]

Thanks for this thread, its a shame there are some missing but there you go, hopefully more and more will be added.

[TankTopLover]

FF12 is PERFECT for me in every sense.

¨All you need is the PS3 controller and a secret button during PS3 boot which will disable the disc protection. You can load any backup after this!! To enable the exploit press the following buttons at the same time on the PS3 controller after power on; L1, L2, R1, R2, SELECT, START, TRIANGLE, SQUARE, press and hold while rotating both the analog sticks clockwise slowly then tap X distinctively once. It takes a while to get a hang of it, but it is worth the effort. Please note that some buttons might be hard to reach at the same time so get a friend to help or use your feet to aid."
Since we don't have blue ray dvd writer.. Maybe people who has writer and test it and found out the truth¨

I found this info somewhere. Not tried it myself. Looks like an April fool thing to me though.

[Tony Hoyle]

Quite funny, but yes that was an april fools joke (the 'use your feet' reference should give it away if the near impossibility of pulling it off didn't).

[Haze]

I was reading an article on the removal of the "HD mode" from the PAL version of God of War II which stated

"It should also be noted that when playing the game on a PS3 via a component of HDMI lead, it runs in true 576p and not just an upscaled version of 576i. The Enhanced Definition (ED) output is forced from the PS2 graphics chip which is why a lot of PS2 games - not just GoWII - will look a lot better. By contrast, if you boot up the US GoWII on an NTSC PS3 and switch Progressive Scan mode on, there will be no difference as the emulator is pushing the 480p mode regardless.

"What this basically means is that the PAL PS3 is giving the best PS2 visuals you will be able to get anywhere!"

And it is absolutely true God of War II looks ALOT better on the PS3 (via HDMI) than it does on the PS2 (via component). So this got me thinking, since the PS3 does such a good job displaying PS2 games at 576p is it better in games with a Progressive Scan option such Shadow of The Colossus and Beyond Good and Evil to keep if off and just let the PS3 handle things?

[iddqd]

I've tried a few games now on my American PS3, namely FFXII, Okami, SotC and now Xenosaga, and they all seem to be a bit "blurry". They are nowhere near as clear as they were when playing through my ps2.

I'm connecting my ps3 to the tv via component, anyone else getting the same?

[Moogle]

I don't think that has anything to do with backwards compatibility but just the way the PS3 plays back PS2 games. A lot of people have said that PS2 games look better played through a PS2 then a PS3. I've tried several games on my US PS3 including FF XII and Okami and they don't look quite as good as they do through the PS2. Plus none of the games you mentioned have native support for progressive scan which may have something to do with it.

[Korum]

It's funny that because I've been playing GOW2 on my US PS3 and I think it looks better than my PS2 even without the prog scan turned on.

[stooshee]

Originally Posted by Korum

It's funny that because I've been playing GOW2 on my US PS3 and I think it looks better than my PS2 even without the prog scan turned on.

I dont understand as the PS3 makes every PS1 and PS2 game progressive...that's unless you have it connected via another way?

[Moogle]

Originally Posted by stooahee

I dont understand as the PS3 makes every PS1 and PS2 game progressive...that's unless you have it connected via another way?

I don't think it makes it progressive. I believe it just takes the interlaced output and deinterlaces it. You can't make a game that doesn't have a progressive option built in either through an option or automatic into a progressive one. The only PS2 games that look decent when played through my PS3 are the ones that offer progressive as an option of which there aren't many. GOW 2 looks good because it has progressive at least the US one. I suspect if you were to play the PS2 games on the PS3 through a standard definition output and display would look better. HDTV's tend to enhance the anomalies in games which are not progressive scan capable.

[Darth_terra]

Originally Posted by Moogle

I don't think it makes it progressive. I believe it just takes the interlaced output and deinterlaces it. You can't make a game that doesn't have a progressive option built in either through an option or automatic into a progressive one. The only PS2 games that look decent when played through my PS3 are the ones that offer progressive as an option of which there aren't many. GOW 2 looks good because it has progressive at least the US one. I suspect if you were to play the PS2 games on the PS3 through a standard definition output and display would look better. HDTV's tend to enhance the anomalies in games which are not progressive scan capable.

I don't believe that to be true i think it is in Progressive other wise the TV wouldn't state that a progressive signal was being sent to it, it's the same when running in progressive for DVD's they don't come with Progressive options on the disc yet they are able to run in progressive via the PS3 it's the same method of output, I have run PS2 games on the PS3 and have found them to look better even when turning on the in game Progressive options, now this may be a Euro thing as the PS3 here outputs in 576p where as the in game progressive options are 480p which is a step down.

[Moogle]

Originally Posted by Darth_terra

I don't believe that to be true i think it is in Progressive other wise the TV wouldn't state that a progressive signal was being sent to it, it's the same when running in progressive for DVD's they don't come with Progressive options on the disc yet they are able to run in progressive via the PS3 it's the same method of output, I have run PS2 games on the PS3 and have found them to look better even when turning on the in game Progressive options, now this may be a Euro thing as the PS3 here outputs in 576p where as the in game progressive options are 480p which is a step down.

DVD's don't come with progressive options as they are all progressive by nature. Whether they are output as progressive or not depends on your hardware. My multiregion DVD player has component output but does not support progressive where as both my 360 and my PS3 do. Hence DVD's look a lot better through my consoles then my DVD player.

And how do you know that the PS3 is not deinterlacing the video output before sending it to the TV ? I stand by my comment that a source that does not have the progressive option to begin with cannot be out put in true progressive. Whether I play my PS2 games through my PS2 using component or through the PS3 using component the ones that look better are the ones with a progressive option built in. The ones that are SD only look better on my CRT then they do on my LCD. I think at the end of the day it is all subjective to a degree.

[Darth_terra]

Originally Posted by Moogle

DVD's don't come with progressive options as they are all progressive by nature. Whether they are output as progressive or not depends on your hardware. My multiregion DVD player has component output but does not support progressive where as both my 360 and my PS3 do. Hence DVD's look a lot better through my consoles then my DVD player.

And how do you know that the PS3 is not deinterlacing the video output before sending it to the TV ? I stand by my comment that a source that does not have the progressive option to begin with cannot be out put in true progressive. Whether I play my PS2 games through my PS2 using component or through the PS3 using component the ones that look better are the ones with a progressive option built in. The ones that are SD only look better on my CRT then they do on my LCD. I think at the end of the day it is all subjective to a degree.

Ah but your referring to component which allows a SD interlaced signal where as HDMI which i use doesn't, it only allows a ED OR HD signal there is no option for SD interlaced on the PS3 using HDMI that's why i say it's Progressive, but as you say it's all subjective so lets leave it at that.

[Steve237]

I bought Outrun 2 for my US PS3 (PS2 game, obviously) and have been unable to play multiplayer online - does anyone know whether this will be the case with all PS2 games on the PS3?