[mriegler]

vrod, I have to take sides with with Moogle here, Sony is not necessarily to blame for the error. It is the software makers that decide to not put both PAL and NTSC encoded versions of games onto the same disc that are to blame.

As the HD resolution (horizontal x vertical pixels) of the two video standards match, only the frequency is different, which doesn't matter for the processing chip and so both PAL and NTSC versions can be read and processed. For SD, PAL runs at 576 lines and NTSC SD at 480, the resolutions do not match, so the processor will come up with an error if you try to feed the 'wrong' (or incompatible) information.

You could argue that Sony should just make everything multi-region, multi-format and multi-current, but then a) who else does, b) how many people will actually use it and c) who is going to pay for all that. So, it's pretty fair to say that Sony is not at fault here. The software companies, however, would just have to include a differently coded SD version of their engine and sorts on the disc. This is (obviously for most studios) not a big task, hence the recent large surge of compatibility. They have noticed that there's a number of people out there and that it is actually cheaper to make a 'one fits all regions'-disc.

What is a bit weak is that Sony customer care only told you to get a new HD screen (which technically solves your problem, aside from buying a new PS3 of the correct region, I guess) and did not explain the error to you in detail. I assume you have asked for a detailed explanation.

So please, before berating other people that they don't know what they are talking about, please make sure you do yourself. Oh, and a spell-checker works wonders .

[Kregory]

Kane & Lynch works fine

[lmaolmao]

army of two does not work

[lmaolmao]

nor does gt5 prologue (blu ray)

[puneet_sachdeva]

Hi

I have

US PS3 + HD Ready TV (Samsung LE40R74BDX) + GT5 PAL version

I currently get the same error 80028F10 when i try to play GT5. I want to know that if I buy the GT5 NTSC version, will i able to play it. I don't want to buy without knowing whether it will solve the problem or not.

Thanks,
Puneet

hey guys

i have a US PS3 and a HD TV, other english games like Rainbox six vegas and call of duty worked fine

however i got GTA IV today and it will not work im getting the error code 80028f10 is there anyway round this?

Would really appreciate any help

thanks

Pete

[lmaolmao]

to both of you above. do you have your output at a HD resolution (720p, 1080i, or 1080p).

i have gt5 prologue uk version and in the above modes it works fine, but the game will not run in 480i/p.

I dont have gta4, but it would be the first i have heard of a game not working in HD resolutions.

Check your video settings.

[theblacksheep]

eu gta4 in HD only on a Jap PS3. no std res

[puneet_sachdeva]

hi lmaolmao
Just to confirm with you. Are You are running the gt5 uk version on a US or NTSC PS3 console?

Another thing is i tried to change the video settings in PS3, currently selected as "Standard NTSC". I changed it to 720p but then the screen went blank for 30 seconds which as per PS3 documentation means that my tv doesn't support 720p. But i know my tv is HD ready.

Is it that i need to change my TV settings somehow so that PS3 video settings gets successfully changed to 720p.

Thanks,
Puneet

Originally Posted by lmaolmao

to both of you above. do you have your output at a HD resolution (720p, 1080i, or 1080p).

i have gt5 prologue uk version and in the above modes it works fine, but the game will not run in 480i/p.

I dont have gta4, but it would be the first i have heard of a game not working in HD resolutions.

Check your video settings.

[lmaolmao]

hi,

i have a US NTSC 60gb ps3, connected to either my toshiba 36zp48 or a 1080p monitor, or a 720p projector

on the toshiba tv i get the error.

on the projector or monitor i can play the uk gt5: p fine at up to 1080p (using component or hdmi).



if you are using the lead that came with the ps3, you will need to replace it with one that can carry hd signals, either HDMI or component (red green blue leads) in order to get a 720p signal.

[puneet_sachdeva]

Hi lmaolmao,
Thanks a ton, for your advice. I bought an HDMI cable yesterday and the game worked and output at the resolution of 1080i.
I was thrilled to see it work, as i just bought the PS3 to play GT5, as i am a fan of car racing. Without it working, it was a big loss of money for me.

Thanks a lot to you.

Cheers,
Puneet

[lmaolmao]

Originally Posted by puneet_sachdeva

Hi lmaolmao,
Thanks a ton, for your advice. I bought an HDMI cable yesterday and the game worked and output at the resolution of 1080i.
I was thrilled to see it work, as i just bought the PS3 to play GT5, as i am a fan of car racing. Without it working, it was a big loss of money for me.

Thanks a lot to you.

Cheers,
Puneet

no problem at all. i bet you noticed a leap in quality switching leads!

[puneet_sachdeva]

Surely, I agree with you.

[Kregory]

anybody know if Euro 2008 works?

Hi there,

I have a ps3(from japan NTSC), a SD tv( PAL Australia), and GTA 4 (PAL).

can someone please confirm this for me, that the only way i will be able to play my gta 4 is either:

1) buy a hdtv

OR

2) buy a PAL ps3 ( does buying a PAL ps3 allow me to play my gta 4 on my existing SD PAL TV? or will i still need a hdtv?)

Thanks in advance

Hi, have you tried the RFOM method of booting this game? I think I have read somewhere somebody having problems using this method with GTA IV but it works OK with all the other games which have the 480i problems.

If anybody is interested Racedriver GRID does work.....woohoo!

[lmaolmao]

i have tried the RFOM method, but cant get it to work, might be due to my Jap version of the game.

works on some but not all. will update some info when i have time.

[lmaolmao]

Originally Posted by inter1908

Hi there,

I have a ps3(from japan NTSC), a SD tv( PAL Australia), and GTA 4 (PAL).

can someone please confirm this for me, that the only way i will be able to play my gta 4 is either:

1) buy a hdtv

OR

2) buy a PAL ps3 ( does buying a PAL ps3 allow me to play my gta 4 on my existing SD PAL TV? or will i still need a hdtv?)

Thanks in advance

1) - thats one option

2) - correct you would be able to play all pal games on a pal sdtv(you would not need a HDTV, no idea about ntsc games on a pal tv though.

[renanbianchi]

Hi there, i'm new here but just wanted you to add to the list that Heavenly Sword PAL worked perfectly on NTSC US PS3 with the Resistance Exploit.

Thanks!!!

[lmaolmao]

mgs4 pal works and has been added

[lmaolmao]

firmware 2.40 ends the resistance exploit

edit - R:FOM still works, i was too hasty in pressing "quit game" after swapping discs

I have tough one! hope someone can help me. Would a Top Spin 3 (PAL Spain) work on my NTSC american PS3? thanks

[lmaolmao]

Originally Posted by JAROTO

I have tough one! hope someone can help me. Would a Top Spin 3 (PAL Spain) work on my NTSC american PS3? thanks

rumours on the internets suggest it does work.


ALso - Soul Calibur 4 - i think its the Australian version (from shopto) - works :D

[kendoll]

Buzz!: Quiz TV (Australian copy) doesn't work.

[irvinekinneas85]

somebody knows if battlefield BC works ?

you forgot to put Burnout Paradise in the list of working games

[lmaolmao]

Originally Posted by kendoll

Buzz!: Quiz TV (Australian copy) doesn't work.

sorry to hear that. but thanks for the heads up, I've added it to the list.

Originally Posted by irvinekinneas85

somebody knows if battlefield BC works ?

sorry, no idea.

Originally Posted by irvinekinneas85

you forgot to put Burnout Paradise in the list of working games

corrected, i've been so busy playing it, i forgot to add it to the list! so thanks for the letting me know.

added a few more PSN titles.

[lmaolmao]

added PSN title bionic commando rearmed. - it works :D

[irvinekinneas85]

i hope with all myself that Street Fighter HD remix will Work !!!

[trancientalx]

I have a US 80g ps3 NTSC. so if i get a HDTV with 1080p, i can play the pal games that i downloaded on the euro psn?

[KSaiyu]

Tested and Battlefield BC works