[Haggler]

I'm surprised there isn't one already, though due to the amount of time it would consume i can see why, i'm volunteering a fair bit of free time in the future for this to materialise, though before starting i'm probing into whether it will benefit this section and be worth the effort and time it would consume.

There are a few points i'd like to make before continuing

1) I don't own a ps3 so aside from the odd thanks i won't be voting or benefiting from this thread
2) If it goes ahead i'll open the voting thread (points based and running for a month or so) but would wish for a volunteer to poll the votes due to work constraints atm.
3) Any other help appreciated (link finding etc) if this thread goes ahead.

The final resource thread will look more or less the same as the 360 and wii versions that have already been completed (360 example posted below) though titles will obviously be ps3 orientated.

AVF Members Essential Top 100 Xbox 360 Games: Resource thread Here

Feel free to chip in with opinions and remember i'm seeking feedback here, whether you wish to offer future assistance or just an opinion as to whether it's worth the hassle (both are fine), you lot know this section much better than me.

[Hillskill]

Definitely worth doing this. I was going to PM you the other day regarding it but I wasn't sure you would have the stamina for another one of these

[FurryGorilla]

Great idea Haggler. I'd also like to see something similar for PSN games as it's a right PITA not having demos for many of them.

[feaviolp]

Great idea - gets my vote

I'll be happy to provide ad-hoc help as and when I can e.g. link finding. Unfortunately I can't commit to the bigger tasks such as vote polling. I hope you do get some positive replies re: the bigger tasks though, or perhaps they could be shared in which case I may be able to help.

Quick question though... do you set some criteria for assessing the games? Nothing genre specific, something simple like "enjoyability, longevity etc."? I can just see that without some guidelines we could get the easy games floating to towards the top simply because they're good for trophies. I've played the odd game for trophies but I think a chart like this should be purely about the game, not the trophies. Just my 2 cents worth and you've probably got it covered anyway

[Haggler]

Originally Posted by feaviolp

Quick question though... do you set some criteria for assessing the games? Nothing genre specific, something simple like "enjoyability, longevity etc."? I can just see that without some guidelines we could get the easy games floating to towards the top simply because they're good for trophies.

Thread will purely be about which are individual voters top ten games, i'll leave it up to them why they consider them to be so, whether or not they are good for trophies really shouldn't come into it unless they are also some of the most enjoyable games they have played too.

On a side note, the voting thread if it goes ahead will only be for full price retail releases, PSN games and downloadable content may get their own poll at a later date should this one materialise.

Atm i'm volunteering for opening the poll and adding the rules for voting, the storage thread for embedded pro video reviews (without the bandwidth problems) and knocking together the completed table once/if voting goes ahead and has finished, i don't mind adding the boxart etc too. Chasing links for the video reviews and AVF review/play and help thread finding from experience will be a time consuming process which i may not have sufficient time for and hence why i'm asking beforehand.

[Tonks01]

I would hold off for a tad, I think the next few months worth of game releases is going to be the best the console has seen and could make parts of the list redundant. Games like Uncharted 2, MW2, Heavy Rain, God of War III, Brutal Legend, Modnation Racers, Assassins Creed II, The Last Guardian, GT5 - all at the moment contenders for a place in the top 10 best PS3 games, let alone top 100.

I like the concept but seems like doing any list now would quickly become out of date. But then there will always be new & better games coming out so guess you have to bite the bullet and make a list some time.

[Haggler]

Originally Posted by Hillskill

Definitely worth doing this. I was going to PM you the other day regarding it but I wasn't sure you would have the stamina for another one of these

Me neither, but it seems a little unfair that the xbox 360 and wii section has one of these and the ps3 section doesn't, a whole in the gaming section that a little effort by a few members could fill imo.

Originally Posted by Tonks01

I like the concept but seems like doing any list now would quickly become out of date. But then there will always be new & better games coming out so guess you have to bite the bullet and make a list some time.

Nah we don't have to do anything hence the reasoning behind this thread, i'm sure the forums could live without it, the outdated list issue will always be there but main list (once completed) could easily have a supplementary thread posted for recent additions, the 360 section had one added for it's future releases since polling ended which i linked below.

Xbox 360 Latest Releases: Resource Thread Here

[Hillskill]

Its a really useful feature if members can put the time into collating everything and voting. Its common knowledge that the PS3 forum doesn't get as much traffic as the 360 forum but if we can get a decent percentage of the regulars to vote then we should have a decent list by the end. Having a members top 100 list also tends to guard against the "what games shall I buy" threads that pop up every few weeks. Personally I am interested to see how the list measures up to the 360 list. Will the same titles be consistently listed or will the top 10 be full of exclusives !? 4 Xbox exclusives made it into the Top 10 over there.

[Haggler]

I guess should this go ahead first priority will be someone to do the polling, noogleboogleman did this last time and a quick pm to see if he's up for it again would be good Hillskill could you do that?, in the meantime would any one else like to volunteer polling the votes which should be based on points based on position from 1-10 (if i open the thread later?) i have no internet access now until tonight, in the meantime keep those ye or ne responses coming.

[Hillskill]

Yeah go on then, I will do it. I'll shove a link in my signature to the thread too and try to generally hassle everyone on the forum into voting The format should defo follow the same template as the Xbox one tho.......it worked really well.

[Ads03]

I don't mind helping out! What do I need to do

[Hillskill]

Originally Posted by Ads03

I don't mind helping out! What do I need to do

Finding review videos and play and help links mostly. Putting the final pages together can be a slog but worth it in the end

[Haggler]

Luckily this time i'm already prepared, i already have a 100 posts free storage thread created a while back so posting 200 or so (2 for each game) video review clips without high bandwidth consumption won't be a problem, we have the table colours and knocking up the final position boxart headers will be a piece of cake after all the recent versions.

Ads03

Thanks for the offer matey, Hillskill hit the nail on the head with regard to what will be required but the youtube clips will be 1st priority after voting has finished, we can jump the gun a bit while voting continues as maybe after a few days we may see some titles which are obviously going to enter the top 100 or whatever it ends up as, you would need to chase 2 pro video reviews in this order (IGN, GAMESPOT, GAMESWEASEL, OTHER) for each and every game.

I won't tell you it will be easy as some of the less popular titles can be a nightmare to chase down pro video reviews for and squeeky american kid reviews are not an option here.

Avf review threads and if not available a play and help thread will also need linking for each and every game, metacritic, gamefaqs and gamestracker are easy to link though.

Hillskill

Thanks matey, that offer has been gratefully excepted.

[Jac4593]

Ready to help! How are you planning on the setting up the votings? (If it was up to me I'd have something similar to-

Fifa 10 - [01]
Uncharted - [01]

etc, but in a table possibly?)

Plus will you be allowing users to vote for as many games as they like? I see a lot choosing the same games if it's a top5 or something like that.



Edit - Just realised it was you who did the X360 one, so nevermind what I just said :D

[Haggler]

Stage one the voting thread has been posted

AVF Members Essential PS3 Games List: Voting Thread Here

Can the moderators please leave this thread open, i would wish to continue using it for discussion and the posting of bits and pieces as the final result thread takes shape.

@Jac4593 will take you up on that offer once a few positions are known.

[Ads03]

Should games not released yet be on the list?

Also is there a thread going to be created for discussion about the Top 100, or we just use this one?

[Haggler]

Originally Posted by Ads03

Should games not released yet be on the list?

Not really but considering Hillskill is doing the polling and i'm not wise up on PS3 games (only owning a wii and 360 ) i'll leave that for him to decide.

Originally Posted by Ads03

Also is there a thread going to be created for discussion about the Top 100, or we just use this one?

Nah we can use this one, i may pm a mod and ask for a thread title change bearing the name 'discussion thread' at least

*Edit*

Have requested a thread title change to :-

Top 100 Ps3 Games: Resource thread (Discussion thread)

All discussion of the ongoing voting, future linking and general posting of updated info including pics, txt files etc and any questions with regard of the resulting 'table with knobs on' can be stuck in here.

[Hillskill]

Voting is shaping up nicely. Unlike the 360 vote COD4 isn't running away with it straight away, which is nice . Also there are 5 PS3 exclusives in the top 10 and 3 just outside. I think its worth running a PSN vote but maybe after the main vote has been finished. IIRC even the XBOX Live one we ran only got about 15 members voting in the end. Great response so far

[Haggler]

Originally Posted by Hillskill

Voting is shaping up nicely. Unlike the 360 vote COD4 isn't running away with it straight away, which is nice . Also there are 5 PS3 exclusives in the top 10 and 3 just outside. I think its worth running a PSN vote but maybe after the main vote has been finished.

Yeah maybe, let's watch the response and hope it hits the top 100 game mark first.

Originally Posted by Hillskill

IIRC even the XBOX Live one we ran only got about 15 members voting in the end. Great response so far

That xbox live thread got 30 odd members adding their votes with the main full price retail thread achieving many many more, maybe like me due to noogleboogleman polling the votes we stopped taking any notice half way through, rest assured you will notice this time matey due to you having the unenviable task of counting them up instead.

[Hillskill]

Originally Posted by Haggler

rest assured you will notice this time matey due to you having the unenviable task of counting them up instead.

Tell me about it. Doing the table so far was easily the hardest afternoons work I have done in about 5 years

[Haggler]

Having pm'd sniper with regard of a txt header for the final resource thread, he's busy with work atm and i ain't going to pester him again, if anyone else would like to indulge feel free to mention it here, we ain't seeking perfection as i'm not capable of it but i added this quickie version, something a little less flat bearing the same text but not font and utilising the same exact colours blue and white so it blends in with the table.

Here's a 'very quick so don't knock it' mockup of the top 10 positions and how they would look in the final thread if taken from their current standings in the voting thread

Blah blah blah......

[Hillskill]

Theres a couple of lads who are really handy with Photoshop. They designed a few Clan Logos back will Killzone 2 was released and they were really really good. If anyone knows who they were could the please point us in the right direction ?

Thanks upfront

[Ads03]

Originally Posted by Hillskill

Theres a couple of lads who are really handy with Photoshop. They designed a few Clan Logos back will Killzone 2 was released and they were really really good. If anyone knows who they were could the please point us in the right direction ?

Thanks upfront

I know Davidg1230 is very good and he designed the artwork for K-Zone/Bob!

[feaviolp]

Originally Posted by Hillskill

Theres a couple of lads who are really handy with Photoshop. They designed a few Clan Logos back will Killzone 2 was released and they were really really good. If anyone knows who they were could the please point us in the right direction ?

Thanks upfront

I think Chowyunfatt did the KZ2 artwork back then. Sorry Chowy if I got that wrong.

[Hillskill]

Thanks Fellas, I will PM them both and see if they can help

[Haggler]

Ok a mate of a mate of a mate who isn't a forum member has knocked me up a quick header for this which is pretty close to the original sniper versions, thanks to everyone who volunteered their services but i decided to go along with this one, mainly for the reason of i can get it adjusted at the drop of a hat just in case the list only contains 70, 80 or 90 games and this may prove important later.

Anyone who volunteered link finding may be contacted at some point when voting ends, as i ain't sure as of yet how much time i will have to dredge for video reviews and avf threads to link to, the resulting list incorporating all the (already dredged for) links may well prove enough.

Here's a current 20 position version screen grabbed mockup of the final list with the header added :-

[Haggler]

For up to date ongoing progress on the final result thread

AVF Members Essential Top 80 PS3 Games: Resource thread (from start to completion) Click Here

[Haggler]

Ok i've completed 50 positions of the total result thread, i'm tempted not to continue due to various reasons, games such as COD Modern warfare 2 (removed) and ratchet and clank: crack in time were released whilst voting was ongoing so they received very few votes (as noone had played them) giving a poor representation of their overall quality (basically they probably would be much higher since), there are also a few import titles Blazblue etc in positions above 50 which probably shouldn't be included either.

*Edit*

Have decided to go with a AVF Members Essential top 50 ps3 games resource for this and add a supplementary thread Sony Ps3 Latest Releases: Resource Thread which can be updated in the future, this should cover both aspects and allow for future releases to be covered.