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[clc.sheff]

Originally Posted by Dancook

What is the reason behind wanting Sony to market Killzone 2? I have a theory that it's Sony fan boys who want to wave their communial d*** in the face of Microsoft. Or maybe people are tired of feeling they have to fight Sony's corner.

I also believe that Sony have a good reason for doing whatever they choose to do, and even if people posting have experience in PR & Marketing, they are not going to see the big picture from Sony's point of view.

With regards to the ps3 and it's continued advancement in console gaming.
I'd like to think Sony are taking a much more modest approach. Even if Killzone 2 isn't the game everyone thought it would be, it doesn't matter. The advances in PS3 game development will make it worthwhile.

To tie up any loose ends, claiming KZ2 may be impossible to run on the Xbox 360 is not a lack of modesty, it's excitement about their advances in technology and the power of the PS3. They are just proud.

I agree with some of your points here Dancook but for me it's more reason two than one. I have no wish to wave my ###k in anyones face (bar my good lady wife).

As I've said on other threads breaking something down to being simply a Fanboy argument in my mind ignores the basic reality of where people are at. That for people such as myself that only have one console unfortunately you choose your team when you hand your cash over at the till. This is in regards to gaming purchases not the evolution of gaming as a whole. In my mind there's no higher ground to be had by saying it's about lording the technical development of a game on a particular console than saying your sick of everyone else rubbing your face in it.

It boils down to perspective at the end of the day. If killzone brings in a new technological era where PS3 games overtake xbox ones the technical guru's and the masses will be saying exactly the same thing i.e. one console is better than the other! The difference in motivation is very, very slight imo

[Dancook]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

i disagree in some parts of your post.

i like games that are different or at least unique to most other titles. its why i hate cod4 MP and why i love bf bc MP.

From what i can see of killzone 2, its just cod4 or even resistance 2 with better graphics MP wise.

Gamasutra - Call Of Duty 4 Sees Over 14 Million Online Players

That's Xbox 360 + PS3, that does not include PC online players. So I would say it works, even if you're not convinced.

edit. Also consider the age of the game, people are not bored with it. I have been playing it frequently myself in the last week after remembering i had it.

[clc.sheff]

I don't see the point in looking at what killzone's not (apart from co-op yet). Good exlusive fps games for the ps3 are hardly falling off the shelves. Maybe if Killzone delivers then it's time to say what's next we've done it now and got our dues. If killzone doesn't deliver, if I had my way I'd send em straight back to do another one! MGS4 was a bit out of the box, some loved it, some hated it.

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by Dancook

Gamasutra - Call Of Duty 4 Sees Over 14 Million Online Players

That's Xbox 360 + PS3, that does not include PC online players. So I would say it works, even if you're not convinced.

edit. Also consider the age of the game, people are not bored with it. I have been playing it frequently myself in the last week after remembering i had it.

cool so it sold well. did i say cod4 didn't sell well? was my post based on popularity of games?

[jonneymendoza]

Originally Posted by clc.sheff

I don't see the point in looking at what killzone's not (apart from co-op yet). Good exlusive fps games for the ps3 are hardly falling off the shelves. Maybe if Killzone delivers then it's time to say what's next we've done it now and got our dues. If killzone doesn't deliver, if I had my way I'd send em straight back to do another one! MGS4 was a bit out of the box, some loved it, some hated it.

mgs4 was a brillient game. best storyline ever. when it comes to SP games i dont care if all the mechanics of the gameplay is abit generic, its the storyline im interested in.

when it comes to online play, its all about gameplay for me.

[clc.sheff]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

mgs4 was a brillient game. best storyline ever. when it comes to SP games i dont if all the mechanics of the gameplay is abit generic, its the storyline im interested in.

when it comes to online play, its all about gameplay for me.

I do agree with you that it's been done to death, Just not exclusively geared to the supposed power of the ps3. COD is multiplatform, Haze was shocking, Resistance 1 great imo but a launch title. Resistance 2 again great but didn't seem quite the real deal to me. I just want to see one really good fps before we all go wi fit crazy and start strapping controllers to our heads

[Dancook]

Originally Posted by jonneymendoza

cool so it sold well. did i say cod4 didn't sell well? was my post based on popularity of games?

first of all bringing something new appeals to alot of people and can really make your product shine if people like the new idea. using the same old tired formulae thats been done a million times gets boring no matter how much you improve it.

i like games that are different or at least unique to most other titles. its why i hate cod4 MP

It just sounds like you're putting COD4 in that category of 'done to death', but since well over 14million people still play it. I'd say it's a good way to go.

edit. I'm not saying KZ2 is like COD4 though. They're just both FPS, they're not going to be worlds apart.

[BenchyUK]

From what i've read, SONY are expecting sales figures for Killzone 2 to be about the same as Metal Gear 4 was last year. From what i understand, MGS4 sold really well but wasn't a huge 'System Shifter'

In regards to Advertisement, it is a little deflating that all we see is Microsoft marketing their console but here my view.

SONY should be marketing it's 1st Part Games. I remember a few LBP ads but not a lot. If they shove the games down peoples throats then it shows awareness of that game HOWEVER i think it's a little pointless for SONY to do ads selling just the Console.

No matter how many adverts there are showing off the PS3 as a console, i don't see it affecting sales when the console id still £300. When they drop to £200 then fine, go and do an onslaught on console advertisement but right now they should be marketing their 1st party titles.

Gears of War had a lot of advertisement for 360 back in 2006 and it sold really well for a new franchise. If SONY did the same for Killzone 2 then i'd expect similar outcome

[Magus]

In response to advertising, many companies work on the premise that not until a product breaks even will the financial department release money for mass advertising. So again I wouldn't expect to see the 'bombardment' that MS threw at its 1st/2nd developers as well as the multi-platform titles in the TV/Radio/Tabloid advertisements as Sony will do for Killzone 2. I read somewhere that Sony was close to breaking even with the PS3 but they are not there yet. Furthermore, Sony are expected to announce a financial loss of around $1.1 Billion. First time in 14 years that they are reporting an actual loss instead of a profit. So again this would effect the marketing budget for all their products.

[Br0ken]

This thread is getting boring.

Does any one actually read what other people post? So much repetition and discussions going round and round, not to mention the constant off topic chat even after moderator warnings. (I know I'm a bit guilty of that too but not since the mod's have spoken.)

[Adnan]

Originally Posted by Br0ken

This thread is getting boring.

Does any one actually read what other people post? So much repetition and discussions going round and round, not to mention the constant off topic chat even after moderator warnings. (I know I'm a bit guilty of that too but not since the mod's have spoken.)

lol I really can't be bothereed to read the long paragaphs so I just skip the long posts beacause they make me .

There have been quite a few rumours saying how they will add co op to the game after it's released in the form of a patch.

eg. Killzone 2 to Be Patched with Co-Op Soon After Launch « GOONL!NE


But I was sure I read in an interview the devs said there would be no co op and this article confirms that.
Guerrilla Games has told PSU in an exclusive interview that there are currently no plans to implement co-op in Killzone 2.

"Currently there are no plans for co-op in Killzone 2," said game director, Mathiji de Jonge. "Technically it would be quite difficult to implement it for the story mode as for example the mission sections are loaded in seamlessly – no loading screens , and that would cause issues with teleporting players. Even without co-op it’s still a big game and gamers will have plenty to sink their teeth into."

To hear that there is no planned co-op for Killzone 2 seemed odd, as over the last few months, news has continued to point to "post release patches" or rumors of possible "four player co-op." However, after digging around, we quickly found that all stories pertaining to a co-op mode in the game were based purely on speculation, providing no evidence to back up their claims.

The biggest story that nearly every major website covered was posted in late August, stating that bots were confirmed and that a post-release patch would be adding co-op. Again, no source was provided in regards to where the information originated from.

Sad to say, it looks like those co-op dreams can be put to sleep. Still, don't let that keep you from purchasing Killzone 2. The game still has a phenomenal single-player and the multiplayer online should keep you busy for years to come. Stay tuned for our full interview later today.

Guerrilla Games: "No plans for co-op in Killzone 2" :: PlayStation Universe (PSU)
I'm a teeny weeny bit disappoited but I know the rest of the game will be really good so it doesn't really bother me.

[Lee_AVF]

Came in here expecting some news, but shock horror, it's a willy waving contest

Can someone please tell me how the online plays...is it closer say to COD, than Resistance 2 or Unreal.

[Moogle]

This is getting ridiculous now. Even after warnings people continue to just argue around in circles and just veer off topic. I'm closing this thread and starting a new one. Any similar posts in that thread will just get moved to this closed thread.

Please continue discussion in the following thread but make sure your posts are constructive and on topic.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/ps3-g...ew-thread.html

[japonozan11]

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[chowyunfatt]

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