[ziggar]

just ordered one for £224.99 has anyone got/seen one ?

well what im trying to say is ( have i jumped into the deep end becouse it is going cheep)

[stevemanfa]

what is the speck on the projector?

[ziggar]

• Product Description: 3M Digital Projector X20 - LCD projector
• Device Type: LCD projector
• Built-in Devices: Speaker
• Dimensions (WxDxH): 27.4 cm x 20.5 cm x 5.9 cm
• Weight: 1.8 kg
• Localisation: United Kingdom, United States, Europe
• Image Brightness: 2000 ANSI lumens
• Image Contrast Ratio: 500:1
• Resolution: 1024 x 768
• Native Aspect Ratio: 4:3
• Colour support: 24-bit (16.7 million colours)
• Bulb type: UHB 160 Watt
• Bulb life cycle: 2000 hour(s) / 3000 hour(s) (economic mode)
• Video Input: RGB, S-Video, composite video, component video ( NTSC, SECAM, PAL, PAL-N, PAL-M, NTSC 4.43 )
• Digital Television Video Formats: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 480i, 525i, 525p, 625i, 576i, 750p, 1125i
• Audio Output: Speaker(s) - integrated
• Sound Output Mode: Mono 1 Watt
• Input Device: Remote control
• Power: AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
• Power Consumption Operational: 250 Watt

[russ17]

Just bought one of these too for £224.99 -5% RAC Memeber discount and an Optoma DS-9092PMG 92" pull down screen £34.99 -5% RAC Discount

This is my first sortie into the projector market. Like "Ziggar" I hope I haven't been fooled by the low price.

These are on other sites for £799!!

I am also planning to buy a ceiling mount from [URL="http://www.avprojectorlamps.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemi d=86"]

Anyone tried one yet??? looks reasonable for £25.99 delivered

If I'm lucky I will have a good setup for under £300 - here's hoping

Anyone got any thoughts on the above?

[stevemanfa]

russ, where did you get it all from? my son works for the rac so he may get the 5% off.

[russ17]

Bought from Play.com, but they have now increased it to £249.99!!!! but you can still get the 5% by going to the RAC website and registering your RAC account which then allows you to generate a discount code. Not sure if this would work for employees though.

Mine has now been dispatched and will be with me within 3-5 days. Will post a "review" when I get it going.

Good luck Steve.

[stevemanfa]

Hi Russ
just had a look on play
not sure what you want to do with the projector but it dont have a hdmi port its only got 500 -1 contrast and its not 16.9, i dont think it will be that good for films or tv but may be great for game play

steve

[ziggar]

well my projector came today ( infocus x20 )
Where do I stand with this having been mis-sold? Am I entitled to the product I have paid for?

i shal phone them

[emporer]

For the money i'd maybe up the budget slightly and get a good 2nd hand unit from the classifieds on these forums, not trying to sound bad but the spec on that unit is horrendous, one could have a almost new 2nd user proper HD 16:9 unit with good connectivity.

[russ17]

Hi Ziggar,

Mine is to be delivered on 7th.

I will update if I get the same Infocus X20 as you!!

If you ordered a 3M X20 then that is what you should have - see Sale of Goods Act 1979 on the trading standards website - Product must be as described including any advertising or despription applied to it. This is the responsibility of the seller not the manufacturer.

I know its a cheap projector, but it will not be used that often, so I thought it worth a dabble plus its got a 3 year warranty which you wont get 2nd hand and a least the lamp has zero running hours. As we know lamps can cost almost as much as a new projector.

I'll give it a chance

[ziggar]

hi rus17 i have had a try of the Infocus X20 and its not v good (its ok but not good)
i put a it on hotukdeals and someone has also had the infocus x20 not the 3m x20,

have a look at the play website as my descriptone in my acount is not showing 3m x20 but is now ,3 electrical,

thay tell me that thay will pick this unit up on the 8th and then send me the right on out
i live in hope

thanks rus17 for the help

[Muig]

Damn. I've ordered one and it should arrive tomorrow.

I have to admit, I did suspect that Play.com had made a mistake and had confused the 3m X20 with the InFocus projector of the same name because the price was so low, but I decided to take a gamble.

I'll be returning the InFocus to Play. The reason I wanted the 3M is because of its 1:1 throw ratio: placing the projector 2m from a screen gives a 2m image. The InFocus has a ratio of 2:1, so placing it 2m from a screen gives a 1m image.

[stevemanfa]

looks like the projector is not on play now

[russ17]

They delivered my 3M X20 whixh was also an Optoma X20!!

Even the invoice shows as an Optoma X20, which is NOT what was ordered.

My play account also shows the item as "3 Electronics", I gues this is their admission that they got it wrong and they have now removed the evidence from the website.

I will be calling them tomorrow to discuss this.

[ziggar]

hi russ17

do you still have your email from them with 3m x20 on it?

[russ17]

My invoice does show a 3M X20.

I had an email offering me £20 and keep the optoma or send it back and get a refund.

I am considering further action to force them to provide a 3M X20 as the contract stipulates.

What have any of you affected by this decided to do?

[stevemanfa]

think if it was me id get my money back i dont think you will get the 3m x 20 from them

[hibee7062]

Originally Posted by russ17

Just bought one of these too for £224.99 -5% RAC Memeber discount and an Optoma DS-9092PMG 92" pull down screen £34.99 -5% RAC Discount

Hey Russ, did you ever get your screen? I ordered mine around about the same time at that price too, but my account just shows "Order Taken" still.

Guessing they'll prob not honour it!

[russ17]

HI Hibee7062,

My order also still shows "order taken"

We live in hope!!!

[russ17]

Just sent my letter to play.com asking for a better deal.

Now we wait

[lawrence.cook]

wow what a mess around for you guys!!
Just a word of warning with the cheap projectors, I bought an Optoma ES520, it was average.. but dust got inside, causing white blobs on the screeen on dark images... Im guessing because it was a cheapy (£235) they didn't put a very good seal on or something to prevent dust... got it replaced and happened on the 2nd one too!