Mitsubishi HC6500

*cyberheater* · 18-10-2008, 12:23 PM

A nice review from Art at projectorreviews.com
Looks like a stunning bit of kit.

Mitsubishi HC6500 1080p Home Theater Projector Review: Overview

NWhiteley · 18-10-2008, 3:35 PM

The HC6500 looks to be PJ to replace my HC4900.

Problem is, i cant find anywhere thats selling it, or a release date, and theres no pricing info either.

jacko5 · 18-10-2008, 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NWhiteley

The HC6500 looks to be PJ to replace my HC4900.

Problem is, i cant find anywhere thats selling it, or a release date, and theres no pricing info either.

To me it looks as though the Mits HC5500 offers the best price/ performance at around £1272.The HC7000 offers the best performance but weighs in at around £2700. The HC6500 is somewhere between, but closer to the HC5500, and the price is around £1950.
I have gleaned this information and arrived at this conclusion from reading various reviews etc. I don't know what other people think.

NWhiteley · 18-10-2008, 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jacko5

To me it looks as though the Mits HC5500 offers the best price/ performance at around £1272.The HC7000 offers the best performance but weighs in at around £2700. The HC6500 is somewhere between, but closer to the HC5500, and the price is around £1950.
I have gleaned this information and arrived at this conclusion from reading various reviews etc. I don't know what other people think.

Do you know if the 6500 has been released yet, or where they are sold?

I have seen the 5500 at ProjectorPoint, but nothing for the 6500 or 7000.

spooney · 18-10-2008, 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NWhiteley

Do you know if the 6500 has been released yet, or where they are sold?

I have seen the 5500 at ProjectorPoint, but nothing for the 6500 or 7000.

Both are due 'soon'. Even my dealer did not receive his demo model yet.

dj_uk · 20-10-2008, 11:54 AM

This projector is currently top of my list as well, ( HC5500, HC6500, HC7000, PT-AE3000 ).

More than a little frustrated with this constant vapourware from pj manufacturers, announcing something and then not releasing it for 4 months.

Does anyone know of somewhere you might be able to buy one of these? I can't even find somewhere which says they will be getting them, let alone somewhere which has them. Not listed anywhere. Only place I found Mitsu pjs was ProjectorPoint who now say they're not getting 6500/7000 ( removed the 7000 from their website ), although they are carrying the HC5500.

I think Mitsubishi is restricting the 6500 and 7000 to authorised dealers only, trouble is, I can't even find one of them. There's no "where to buy" link on Mitsubishi's website either. Pretty poor show really.

spooney · 20-10-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dj_uk

I think Mitsubishi is restricting the 6500 and 7000 to authorised dealers only, trouble is, I can't even find one of them. There's no "where to buy" link on Mitsubishi's website either. Pretty poor show really.

This is correct. Mitsubishi resells their top-ends through authorized dealers only (like Denon does). My dealer is authorized dealer and still waiting for his demo sample

dj_uk · 20-10-2008, 5:48 PM

So... who are the authorised dealers?

dj_uk · 20-10-2008, 5:56 PM

Well, whilst their awful website doesn't let you know where you might be able to actually buy one... there is a press release for the HC6500 dated 15th Oct, link follows for all you considering this model.

Interestingly, it does state a UK price, "expected to be £1995.00 inc VAT".

Mitsubishi Electric Launches the First Premium Projector from the New Black Diamond Series; Introducing the HC6500!

Now if I could just find a dealer..

spooney · 21-10-2008, 7:38 AM

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Now if I could just find a dealer..

Did you try to give them a call or send them an email to ask for dealers?
Contact Us

dj_uk · 21-10-2008, 10:06 AM

I have now spoken to Mitsubishi. They have HC6500 units in stock in the country, they're just sitting at the warehouse because they haven't decided how to sell them yet. They haven't "worked out the channels".

They have four main resellers, but no list of retailers who sell to the public.

They couldn't tell me a retailer from which to buy their products, they went away and managed to come up with one name, some data-projector company.

Very poor show.

Spooney isn't willing to name his retailer, so is there anyone here who knows of a dealer who can supply these units who is willing to share the name?

Dav1dF · 21-10-2008, 12:33 PM

We are looking at the possibility of having these in store, so if we find any info out that we can pass on, we will.

spooney · 21-10-2008, 12:51 PM

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Spooney isn't willing to name his retailer, so is there anyone here who knows of a dealer who can supply these units who is willing to share the name?

All you have to do is ask directly, mate. I will PM you with the contact details of my dealer as I do not want to advertize any dealer directly in this forum.

dj_uk · 21-10-2008, 1:10 PM

The UK account manager for these product is supposed to be giving me a call, if he ever does ( which I doubt ), I'll ask him what the score is and when the're actually going to ship them to retailers.

NWhiteley · 21-10-2008, 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spooney

All you have to do is ask directly, mate. I will PM you with the contact details of my dealer as I do not want to advertize any dealer directly in this forum.

Any chance you could do the same for me please?

spooney · 21-10-2008, 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NWhiteley

Any chance you could do the same for me please?

Done

norliss · 21-10-2008, 4:06 PM

I'm very new on this whole projector thing and have recently started reading about them here and elsewhere with great interest.

I must admit that in a capitalist society (especially in the current climate) it does seem utterly bizarre that any manufacturer would make availability of their goods so poor and that you'd have to pursue them for the opportunity to buy them

It's a shame since (from reviews) it seems like Mitsubishi make decent projectors.

spooney · 21-10-2008, 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by norliss

I'm very new on this whole projector thing and have recently started reading about them here and elsewhere with great interest.

I must admit that in a capitalist society (especially in the current climate) it does seem utterly bizarre that any manufacturer would make availability of their goods so poor and that you'd have to pursue them for the opportunity to buy them

It's a shame since (from reviews) it seems like Mitsubishi make decent projectors.

<rant on>
In no way I want to defend Mitisubishi, Denon, e.a. who manufacture top-end products but to some extend it makes sense to me to move away from the cheap (literally) Internet channels and move towards authorized dealers capable to consult potential buyers, provide the support you deserve and actually pay for, clear return policy, taking the extra mile now and then to keep you happy in case something goes wrong, etc. When different resellers compete over price moving boxes with content around only the final result is a crappy product. If you look at all the cheap Chinese manufactured products you will understand what I want to point out.
Quality costs money and requires certain channels to the buyer. The old saying you get what you pay for is true.
Will they lose some potential buyers, yes for sure. But knowing it costs ten times to get a new customer compared to keeping an existing one it makes sense from a financial perspective and a look beyond year end's closing.
</rant off>

norliss · 21-10-2008, 5:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spooney

<rant on>
In no way I want to defend Mitisubishi, Denon, e.a. who manufacture top-end products but to some extend it makes sense to me to move away from the cheap (literally) Internet channels and move towards authorized dealers capable to consult potential buyers, provide the support you deserve and actually pay for, clear return policy, taking the extra mile now and then to keep you happy in case something goes wrong, etc. When different resellers compete over price moving boxes with content around only the final result is a crappy product. If you look at all the cheap Chinese manufactured products you will understand what I want to point out.
Quality costs money and requires certain channels to the buyer. The old saying you get what you pay for is true.
Will they lose some potential buyers, yes for sure. But knowing it costs ten times to get a new customer compared to keeping an existing one it makes sense from a financial perspective and a look beyond year end's closing.
</rant off>

That's fair enough and I agree with you. I'm not opposed to any manufacturer wanting to move away from the box-shifting route but they should at least be more forthcoming with information from whom you can buy their products.

Reading some of the earlier posts in this thread felt like you needed to be part of some secret cult to consider buying one of these!

spooney · 22-10-2008, 6:50 AM

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Reading some of the earlier posts in this thread felt like you needed to be part of some secret cult to consider buying one of these!

LOL

Dav1dF · 22-10-2008, 9:26 AM

Well said spooney.

dj_uk · 28-10-2008, 10:43 AM

As an update, the Mitsubishi UK Product Manager for these projectors did indeed call me back, he's a very nice chap. I have to say that, as he might be reading these threads

Seriously though, he was a very nice bloke, and we had a chat about these pjs and Mitsubishi's plans for distribution.

Story is that Mitusbishi are indeed still deciding what channels through which to sell these, and they can't give a list of retailers who will stock them yet. They're aiming for a release at the beginning of November, so you all don't have much longer to wait.

The projectors are in the country already, sitting in the warehouse waiting to go out to dealers, when they decide who those dealers should be, so they should move quickly when they're ready.

As I understand it, Mitsubishi have four main distributors, who then supply the retailers, I may have that wrong though.

Anyway, kudos to Mitsubishi for talking to the little guy on the street, and thanks to Carlton for giving me a bell. I look forward to hearing from him again. *hint*

I was supposed to be doing a presentation for a Photographic Society this evening, and need a PJ to do it with. They're looking at buying their own PJ and I'm trying to persuade them to go with a Mitsubishi 5500, so I want to impress them with a decent PJ. I've managed to get them to reschedule the presentation to 4th Nov, so I'm hoping I can get my hands on a 6500 in time

dj_uk · 03-11-2008, 2:11 PM

These are available for order now in the UK.

Kent Home Cinema · 03-11-2008, 3:21 PM

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These are available for order now in the UK.

Indeed - from today there is stock available for the HC6500 as well as the HC7000

Regards

Alastair

ihenry · 03-11-2008, 4:00 PM

Does anyone know the price of these? RRP and the expected online prices?

Thanks.

skinnywhippet · 03-11-2008, 4:51 PM

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Does anyone know the price of these? RRP and the expected online prices?

Thanks.

check out the prices at Kenthome cinema

ihenry · 03-11-2008, 6:52 PM

I did try that earlier by using their search which give a 404 Error from their homepage.

So to answer my own question Kent Home Cinema are selling the HC6500 for £1956.
My budget was less than this so maybe I need to look for an alternative projector and/or supplier. There is one on ebay for £1,749.95, but I'd rather purchase elsewhere.

Thank You.

dj_uk · 04-11-2008, 9:21 AM

Well it's arrived...

I have no screen yet, and I'm busy preparing for a presentation tonight ( using this pj ) to play with it much, I'll post some more info and pictures over the course of the week.

It's not as heavy as I expected!

Dav1dF · 04-11-2008, 9:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ihenry

My budget was less than this so maybe I need to look for an alternative projector and/or supplier. There is one on ebay for £1,749.95, but I'd rather purchase elsewhere.

I never really understand why people risk things for a small saving. The Ebay one is £1775 including delivery, which makes it a £170 saving. Even if you collect you have to pay £15, after giving 4 working days notice! What sort of 'shop' is that?! And no mention of the 3 year warranty......

This Ebay seller has to be grey importing, as the HC6500 and HC7000 are being sold through very limited dealers, and they're not one, as I know for a fact that there's only one dealer so far. Plus, the seller has an MSN e-mail address rather than a genuine company one. This is why the industry is in the state that it is right now, because of dodgy sellers who just want to make a quick buck.

Caveat emptor......

spooney · 04-11-2008, 10:17 AM

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I never really understand why people risk things for a small saving. .

Because forward looking needs some serious thoughts.

Of course everybody looks after his hard-earned money especially on a tight budget. Still not many people learn from their quality-spoiled ancestors: Buying cheap is buying more expensive.

Usually it pays off to look for a trusted dealer no matter if it is the manufacturer's policy or not.

E.g. Way back I bought my first projector from a small dealer and it was not the best price by far but the best services and consulting. We both agreed on this and stayed in business.

I recently bought my HC7000 (due for delivery today, UPS is on its way). We certainly made a good deal for both sides.

(The shop owner made me promise not to disclose the price he gives regular customers like myself - so please don't ask for it. )