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23-01-2008, 11:29 PM
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I have just acquired a cheap Tosh XE1 and have connected it up to my JVC-HD1. 1080p@24 works great except SD-DVD stutters.
So I try 1080p and I get "no input", "wrong frquency" etc.
I try 1080i and it works fine.
If I recall HD1 has firmware 1.62 and Tosh has 2.7
Any ideas why I can't feed it 1080p?
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24-01-2008, 12:01 AM
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is the dvd pal or ntsc?
is the player pal or ntsc?
does the hd1/player support 1080p@50/60hz? (i take it you are using HDMI for all)
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Originally Posted by JagoPlasma  is the dvd pal or ntsc?
is the player pal or ntsc?
does the hd1/player support 1080p@50/60hz? (i take it you are using HDMI for all) | The DVD is PAL and the player is UK (so PAL I guess)
The player does not seem to let you specify 50/60 just "as good as 1080p"
Yes, HDMI cable. Quite a long one though at 15m. Works for everything else (eg 1080p@24 for example).
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Oooer. 1080p over 15 metre cable? You'll start to get signal drop-off soon after 10 metres. I ran my XE1 through the HD1 fine. Not sure if it was 24p though...coming to think of it does the HD1 accept 24p?
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Originally Posted by charker The DVD is PAL and the player is UK (so PAL I guess)
The player does not seem to let you specify 50/60 just "as good as 1080p"
Yes, HDMI cable. Quite a long one though at 15m. Works for everything else (eg 1080p@24 for example).
Cliff | Setting the player to 1080p/24 will cause judder with PAL DVD due to it being 25 frames. 1080p/24 is benefitial for "24 frame film" material that would otherwise be output at 60hz as it avoids 3:2 repeat.
1080p/24 also requires less bandwidth than 1080p/50/60. I suspect the issue is your cable length in combination with the higher bandwidth signal. You either need a higher quality cable or a signal booster to avoid this type of issue on longer cable runs with HDMI.
The HD1 accepts and properly processes 1080p/24 at a refersh of 96hz.
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The HD1 is fine with pretty much any 1080 signal. Cable sounds like the most likely culprit. Try it with a shorter cable if possible and - if it works - you may need a better quality 15m cable.
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Originally Posted by Ballistix999 Oooer. 1080p over 15 metre cable? You'll start to get signal drop-off soon after 10 metres. I ran my XE1 through the HD1 fine. Not sure if it was 24p though...coming to think of it does the HD1 accept 24p?
T | 1080p@24 over 15m cable works faultlessly. Perhaps HD1 doesn't like 1080p@50?
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Originally Posted by Avi Setting the player to 1080p/24 will cause judder with PAL DVD due to it being 25 frames. 1080p/24 is benefitial for "24 frame film" material that would otherwise be output at 60hz as it avoids 3:2 repeat.
1080p/24 also requires less bandwidth than 1080p/50/60. I suspect the issue is your cable length in combination with the higher bandwidth signal. You either need a higher quality cable or a signal booster to avoid this type of issue on longer cable runs with HDMI.
The HD1 accepts and properly processes 1080p/24 at a refersh of 96hz.
AVI | 1080p@24 works fine. I wondered why "as good as 1080p" (the XE1 output option) doesn't work when "as good as 1080i" does.
I will try shorter cable.
Must add the 1080p@24 looks fantastic, smooth pans, credits etc. Much better than my XBOX HD-DVD drive.
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At 15 metres it may be better to have two 7m cables with a repeater. Probably cheaper than finding a cable that can reliably do 1080p over that distance.
The HD1 does 1080p/60 just fine.. I've done it over a 10m Lindy cable from the PS3 (although most of the time I only do 1080p/24).
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1080p60 is twice the bandwidth of 1080p24. Best to check the cable.
Repeaters can fall out, and make for difficult placement as halfway along the cable run is likely to be halfway up a wall or along a ceiling!! Just get a decent cable that works.
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Hi all
It is the cable. Tried the one that came with the XE1 and it's fine. Now I have to spend even more money 
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Originally Posted by Tony Hoyle Bloomin 'eck at that price I'd expect it to!! | One of the issues with HDMI is that there is no guarantee that any cable works as often it depends on the device at either end. Because of this I would make sure I could return a "new cable" cable if it didn't work. £100 isn't bad if it is a high quality 15m HDMI cable.
The cheaper cables usually work fine for short runs or sometimes longer runs if you don't push the bandwidth i.e. stick with 1080i or 1080p/24. Increase the bandwidth to 1080p/50/60 over longer runs and many cables fail.
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