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Old 18-01-2007, 1:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

Most people seem to agree on that the HD1 is the one to go for.

However I haven't found any info on which HDMI revision this projector support.

Can someone enlighten me please ?.. Hopefully people aren't buying without knowing basic connectivity information.
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Old 18-01-2007, 3:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

It has two HDMI sockets - don't know what revision. These will work with my computer and the coming slew of HDDVD/blueray players. That's all I need to know.

Why did you ask? Is there a right and wrong answer? Paint me a picture of what might happen if they support the wrong revision.
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Old 18-01-2007, 5:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

I ordered one and only know it supports HDMI 1.2

All people shouting it should have been 1.3 should first try to understand what 1.3 is, and what the real benifit of it is.

This projector has no speaker (i am guessing here), so advanced audio codecs goinig into it via bitstream seem quite useless.
The Gennum chip is at most 10 bit, so deep color information send there is not processed anyway. Further there are no consumer devices (yet) who support deep color. Perhaps a game console will support it, but it might take a long time until the general devices support deep color. (looking at the transition speed from SDTV to HDTV)
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Old 18-01-2007, 9:24 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

This has already been covered in the main HD1 thread:

New DLA-RS1; JVCs new 1080 DiLA projector
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Old 18-01-2007, 8:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

My point is that you are paying 4K£ for something that is using 2 year old technology.
JVC is tight lipped about the HDMI revision on it.. Why ?... To keep you in suspense or to avoid admitting you are buying old technology.

How many HDMI 1.3 players are out there ?.. 400.000 (PS3's) ?
So already your fancy new projector is running in compatibilty mode.
What about in 1 year ?.. It is just not your warranty that will run out then..
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Old 18-01-2007, 9:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

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My point is that you are paying 4K£ for something that is using 2 year old technology.
JVC is tight lipped about the HDMI revision on it.. Why ?... To keep you in suspense or to avoid admitting you are buying old technology.

How many HDMI 1.3 players are out there ?.. 400.000 (PS3's) ?
So already your fancy new projector is running in compatibilty mode.
What about in 1 year ?.. It is just not your warranty that will run out then..
What do you suggest that everyone does? Stick with their old projector?
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Old 18-01-2007, 10:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

Why not ?.. Force the manufacturer to get the job done properly

Ps every single graphic card manufactured at the moment with dual DVI and DHCP is unable to combine these two features... why ?.. Because people buy them rather than force the manufaturer to spend another 50 pence to get it right.
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Old 18-01-2007, 11:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

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JVC is tight lipped about the HDMI revision on it.. Why ?... To keep you in suspense or to avoid admitting you are buying old technology.
Did you ask them? If so, they would have told you.
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Old 18-01-2007, 11:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

I would rather buy a projector that costs £3500 now, that has HDMI 1.2 and looks like a pj that costs twice that amount. That, to me, is progress. Not features that won't be supported any time soon.
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Old 19-01-2007, 1:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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My point is that you are paying 4K£ for something that is using 2 year old technology.
JVC is tight lipped about the HDMI revision on it.. Why ?... To keep you in suspense or to avoid admitting you are buying old technology.

How many HDMI 1.3 players are out there ?.. 400.000 (PS3's) ?
So already your fancy new projector is running in compatibilty mode.
What about in 1 year ?.. It is just not your warranty that will run out then..
I couldn't give a toss about how old the technology is. Wheels are old technology and still in common use.

So the only bit about what you're saying that interests me is the JVC having issues playing images from a PS3. How will the picture be affected exactly?
Bit more science please and a bit less scare mongering.
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Old 19-01-2007, 6:10 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

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My point is that you are paying 4K£ for something that is using 2 year old technology.
JVC is tight lipped about the HDMI revision on it.. Why ?... To keep you in suspense or to avoid admitting you are buying old technology.

How many HDMI 1.3 players are out there ?.. 400.000 (PS3's) ?
So already your fancy new projector is running in compatibilty mode.
What about in 1 year ?.. It is just not your warranty that will run out then..

tightlipped, not quite if you had actually made the effort and searched the forums it is well documented that V 1.2 is being used.
At the time of development of HD1, there the specs for 1.3 were not even finalised so it was impossible to incorporate this.
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Old 19-01-2007, 6:34 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

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How many HDMI 1.3 players are out there ?.. 400.000 (PS3's) ?
And what do they output ?
Dolby True-HD and video in 36 bit deep color mode ?

Please read some more on this subject before you complain.
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Old 19-01-2007, 6:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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tightlipped, not quite if you had actually made the effort and searched the forums it is well documented that V 1.2 is being used.
At the time of development of HD1, there the specs for 1.3 were not even finalised so it was impossible to incorporate this.
I'm sorry for not finding the information I was after.
However can you disprove my point about JVC being tighlipped, and find the HDMI information on a JVC web site.

PS3 is on sale and have HDMI 1.3. So I'm not sure about your point about it is impossible to incorporate the current HDMI standard.
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Old 19-01-2007, 6:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

Press release from HDMI today

In 2007, we expect a rapid proliferation of devices with HDMI 1.3 features, such as Deep Color, new audio standards and the xvYCC color gamut. HDMI is continually evolving to meet the needs of the market

I'm glad I haven't pre ordered. Behind already on a product not even shipping yet.
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Old 19-01-2007, 6:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: JVC DLA HD1 and HDMI

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Press release from HDMI today

In 2007, we expect a rapid proliferation of devices with HDMI 1.3 features, such as Deep Color, new audio standards and the xvYCC color gamut. HDMI is continually evolving to meet the needs of the market

I'm glad I haven't pre ordered. Behind already on a product not even shipping yet.
I'm surprised that anyone reading this forum would have such a view, as based on this logic you will never buy a new product.

Please, do let us know when you dip into your pocket, as I'm looking forward to seeng what you eventually buy
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