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Old 25-09-2006, 7:38 PM   #1
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hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

wearing your tinfoil hat ?

well, boys and girls, here's a tip...reset your lamp counter before it reaches 50 hours, and continue to do so, make a note somewhere of dates and running totals if you need

bet on average you get more life out of a lamp

oh, and if you're feeling hardcore, leave the filters out of the unit too (not recommended for those unwilling to clean pj internally on occasion, or for pjs still in warranty)

my last two lamps have well exceeded stated life, most recent is 50% over stated life already and still almost too bright

sorry, not able to 'prove' this, but all i can tell you is it works for me

tinfoil hat no longer required !
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Old 25-09-2006, 7:42 PM   #2
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

I love conspiracy theories.
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Old 25-09-2006, 7:45 PM   #3
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

Icke was just thinking you thought that at me

p.s. scalar weapons brought down the towers

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Old 25-09-2006, 10:03 PM   #4
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

well, i'm in a hot room, PJ's on a good 6 hours a day, havnt cleaned anything in the PJ yet, its a refurb model i bought..........and i'm almost at 3k hours in literally a year....i'd be willing to admit the image isnt quite as bright as it was a few k hours ago, but the image is still extremely enjoyable....

guess i got a good bulb....heh

when i buy the next i'm going with the bulb warranty....simple reason being i expect to hit 3k hours a year, the warranty gives you one year unlimited hours....w00t!...heh....
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead la

A) WHich PJ are you on about
B) Bulb warranty? Eh? Who's this with?
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Old 25-09-2006, 11:05 PM   #6
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

that's pretty good going knyght_byte
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Old 26-09-2006, 10:57 PM   #7
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

Dont want to tempt fate but im surprised my bulb hasnt gone yet! I own a tx100 and im on 1700 hrs so far. I know the expectancy is 2000 hrs but i thought it would of gone by now!

WHo wants to wager it goes in the next week after i have opened my fat mouth!
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Old 26-09-2006, 11:04 PM   #8
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

couldn't hurt to zero that badboy could it ?
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Old 26-09-2006, 11:07 PM   #9
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

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couldn't hurt to zero that badboy could it ?
LOL i suppose so but then if it did happen to go soon i will wonder if it was due to natural causes or your "sound" advice!
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

I've no doubt my bulb will run beyond it's 'expected' life, but surely it's brightness and therefore colour balance, will all have gone west if I reset the timer for ever more?

Not to mention that I don't actually want one actually going pop inside my PJ. I had that happen with my HS-10 and believe me, you don't want it.

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Old 26-09-2006, 11:10 PM   #11
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

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I've no doubt my bulb will run beyond it's 'expected' life, but surely it's brightness and therefore colour balance, will all have gone west if I reset the timer for ever more?

Not to mention that I don't actually want one actually going pop inside my PJ. I had that happen with my HS-10 and believe me, you don't want it.

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Yeh im a bit concerned mine will pop inside! This is my first PJ and first bulb so never even changed one yet!
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Old 26-09-2006, 11:12 PM   #12
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

hey guys, last thing i'd want is to set you on the wrong track, all i can tell you is that i've had lamps pop, and it ain't nothing to worry over, a total anticlimax, also, my last two lamps have been reset SO many times, present lamp is over 3,000 hours, and i've reset at 15-50 hour intervals repeatedly, still mucho bright
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Old 26-09-2006, 11:14 PM   #13
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

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hey guys, last thing i'd want is to set you on the wrong track, all i can tell you is that i've had lamps pop, and it ain't nothing to worry over, a total anticlimax, also, my last two lamps have been reset SO many times, present lamp is over 3,000 hours, and i've reset at 15-50 hour intervals repeatedly, still mucho bright
Ok looks like i will give it a whirl and reset my clock tomorrow and make a note of the time and date.

So i could potentially get more than the 2000 hrs it originally states?
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Old 26-09-2006, 11:23 PM   #14
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

yep, even without the reset (although you may need to reset at 2,000 anyway)

you all might be wondering what i was smoking when i came up with this, but it is either a coinkydink, or it works

a lamp can pop even at as few as 90 odd hours, so it's always a small risk that it'll happen, just observe the manual regarding procedure, most lamps are designed to catch the internal lighting element, but if not, and you do have a lamp pop, best to air the room, and collect any shards with great care (as i say, this can happen even with new [less than 100 hours] lamps, so no need to panic !)

but please do what you think is right, i'm not blackmailing you here !
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

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yep, even without the reset (although you may need to reset at 2,000 anyway)

you all might be wondering what i was smoking when i came up with this, but it is either a coinkydink, or it works

a lamp can pop even at as few as 90 odd hours, so it's always a small risk that it'll happen, just observe the manual regarding procedure, most lamps are designed to catch the internal lighting element, but if not, and you do have a lamp pop, best to air the room, and collect any shards with great care (as i say, this can happen even with new [less than 100 hours] lamps, so no need to panic !)

but please do what you think is right, i'm not blackmailing you here !
Ok cheers mate, i will see whether i feel like messing tomorrow!
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Old 27-09-2006, 3:37 PM   #16
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead la

My first projector was one which to the best of my knowledge did not have a lamp counter (a Sharp C1 bought in Singapore), although I'd have said the same of my Sanyo z3 until I found out otherwise here, as the way to access it wasn't mentioned in the documentation. I got it over 7 years ago at the end of my gcses, with a dvd player and an ondigital box which had filmfour/sky1/MTV etc. I watched it around 6 hrs a day (I was the last year to do the system where none of your work counts until the very end, not like the AS-BS they have today), often falling asleep and leaving it on overnight by mistake. Whenever I had friends around, all they wanted to do was game on it or watch movies, and on my gap year, I got both free from the video store I worked in. I used it less at uni as I didn't have a big enough room for a decent setup, but I'd say I squeezed at least 5000 hrs out of that bulb, perhaps closer to 10000 and it was rated 2000 hrs like any other. Granted, it was lacking in brightness from about 3000 hrs onwards, also not very evenly distributed, but perhaps the absence of the counter was the key to unlocking the bulb's full potential...

I gave the pj to a friend upon getting my Z3 (which some toerag then stole, leaving me projectorless for almost 6 months now), and he says it worked for a bit and then died. As I wasn't there, and in the light of the heavy use that £400 beast underwent, I have no way of knowing for sure that its death was actually bulb-related...
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Old 27-09-2006, 4:14 PM   #17
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

certainly makes one think, eh ?

why does a projector need a counter, when say 20% pop before 'due' ?
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Old 04-10-2006, 8:00 PM   #18
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

another 100 lamp hours have passed, and still a wee bit too bright, still zeroing the counter...3,100 hours total on one 2,000 hour lamp

tinfoil needs a wash and polish
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Old 04-10-2006, 8:46 PM   #19
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

Hi,

Just checked the counter on my ptae500ec, 4995h. But it is now switching off every 10 mins, def need a new bulb. Never reset my counter. I think not moving it around a lot is the key to maintaining the lamp in good nick.
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

4,995...that's incredibly good ! you must be chuffed

yeah, i reckon not shaking an ageing lamp about must be helpful, it should minimise stress fractures in the element and glass bits
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Old 04-10-2006, 9:10 PM   #21
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

Grab your tinfoil hat and Pre heat the oven before you stick in the turkey

Will try this out to see if it works, Cheers

Does this work for Oven Lamps

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Old 04-10-2006, 9:12 PM   #22
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!


Very pleased indeed. Guess I can only get a worst one. Guess I just took bulb lifetime for granted.
I'm looking at to buy a replacement. Either a japanese website (pricejapan . com) or av projector lamps .com. Please, anyone with any bad experiences with either of these let me know. I'm hoping to buy it tomorrow.

Thanks
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Please, anyone with any bad experiences with either of these let me know. I'm hoping to buy it tomorrow.
valium, i'd make a fresh thread on that, mate

Pure_Geordie...i don't know about oven lamps, i cook using the power of my mind
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead la

i'm a bit of a noobie so could someone explain to me why you reset the bulb so often? why not just run it to like 2000 hours then reset it?
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i'm a bit of a noobie so could someone explain to me why you reset the bulb so often? why not just run it to like 2000 hours then reset it?
The conspiracy theory on offer here is that PJ's simulate the bulb's breakdown ahead of time, to prevent them being stretched to their limits (when they are more like to blow, sending shards all around your pj) and, if we were to be truly honest about our cynicism here, to ensure we spend that £250, that much more often.

By resetting the bulb every 50-odd hours, you would presumably cheat such a failsafe into thinking that the bulb was always relatively new and it wouldn't try to declare it dead, ahead of time. Of course, this also means you'd have to keep a record of the bulb's life yourself, to prove the theory.

Personally, I would never change a bulb without wearing an oxygen suit or covering myself in cling film and wearing a tin foil hat, as I read somewhere that mind-controlling substances stored within the chassis' of projectors are the leading cause of upgradeitis. I have noticed that whenever a problem, bulb-related or otherwise, forces a pj owner to "look under the hood" as it were, they immediately start thinking about moving on and getting a newer, better model. It might just be because once you've seen your beloved toy naked, all the mystery is gone, or it might just be those mind-controlling chemicals guaranteeing a double payout for the manufacturers, who sting you for the prematurely-blown bulb first, and then brainwash you into wanting a new top-of-the-range model, the moment you've fixed the original problem. : nudge : : nudge : If you've read this, you already know too much...
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

nickane, i thought you weren't willing to risk the fema/new labour camp n' chip, but seeing as how you're taking the chance...

haider, nickane is pretty well 'on message' there with his post, i would theorise that the lamp death is very real, when it happens, if the crazy theory of one of my many multiple personalities (switched by tv alter control) is to be trusted, the driving up of the power in a spike only occurs at some random point after say 90 hours into the lamps life, so resetting it at less than 50 is a good aim

resetting the lamp counter, has clearly not harmed my lamp, so it is a 'safe' practice at least, but if in any way unsure, you must reserve your right to do as you feel right

nickane, if you look closely at a popped lamp, you can see reptilians phazing in and out of our dimension

on a serious note, some conspiracy theories ARE based on the reality of events, if it involves aliens, however, i think you can safely rule it out
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

How do you all find the performance has dropped over time as the bulb gets older?

Do you notice a drop in qulity of picture?

At what point did you notice....?
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ahaa, I see now....

So yeah, I don't think these companies would be silly enough to do that. Wouldn't this have to be coded into the machines? which leaves behind some evidence of this? which is a pretty serious crime I imagine?


But yeah, I'll jump on the boat!! :D

Might aswell do it, keep a little excel file going noting the resets...
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Re: hey boys and girls, grab your tinfoil hat and read this if you don't like dead lamps!

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resetting the lamp counter, has clearly not harmed my lamp, so it is a 'safe' practice at least,
That is quite a jump in logic, something that is not supported by one example
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How do you all find the performance has dropped over time as the bulb gets older?

Do you notice a drop in qulity of picture?

At what point did you notice....?
personally, nothing yet in the way of a drop in quality, but that is, of course, a subjective comment, however, for me, blacks are still a little overlit

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