thanks for checking mate ;
thing is, i've tried various refresh rates on mine and it didnt make a diff
plus, it's the same on my ati card (9600XT) and that worked fine last time i tried it (months ago)
will try again tonight after work, just to double check tho. knowing me i've left out something
failing that, it's got to be either the cable or the proj itself somehow.
the projector wouldnt have a prob with hdmi and vga in at the same time would it? originally i didnt have a vga cable so just had hdmi plugged in by itself