[stevelup]

On the box opening subject, mine came direct from a distributor and the box had been opened and resealed (double taped if you like). I'm sure it must be to put the UK power cable in.

[quantumAV]

Originally Posted by stevelup

On the box opening subject, mine came direct from a distributor and the box had been opened and resealed (double taped if you like). I'm sure it must be to put the UK power cable in.

They are opened before they come to us to add the UK power cables.
Basically they are centrally stocked in a European warehouse - Onkyo are the same - everything is opened and re-sealed

[Ideal AV]

Originally Posted by stevelup

On the box opening subject, mine came direct from a distributor and the box had been opened and resealed (double taped if you like). I'm sure it must be to put the UK power cable in.

it is Steve

and as Andy has said, others manufacturers do the same, JVC for instance have to unbox them for testing, re-flashing and include the emitter and glasses.

There nothing sinister about a box that has been opened at all, we`d all be complaining if the came with no accessories would we

thats why when I read comments such as this one....

Originally Posted by ashy666

I cant see the boxes being opened to put glasses inside as the projector comes with the glasses and transmitter as standard and they are integrated into the box not a bonus when you buy one (I would thought you would know this if you deal with them).

these really make me smile

[Dav1dF]

If the box has been opened once to add a UK mains lead and re-taped by the manufacturer that's fine. But it doesn't mean that a re-taped box should automatically be dismissed as non suspect based on that. There are some unscrupulous dealers out there who will take advantage of that and try and palm off ex demo or returned items on someone else. Upon opening the box, everything should be nice and neat, and the item neatly wrapped and taped up in whatever it comes in (wrapping/bag). Common sense will tell you if it looks like it's been opened and used before.

[rhubarb4]

Originally Posted by Steve Withers

I currently have the TW9000W in for testing, the review will be up by Tuesday.

Brilliant I'm looking forward to this review, It will be the deciding factor to wether I get one, or still be stuck between the jvc x30 and panny 5000.

Chris.

[mattrs]

I couldn't wait for the review but will be an interesting read nonetheless! PJ waiting for me at Sevenoaks SV, just waiting for my screen to be delivered now...argh the wait is killing me!

[Ideal AV]

Originally Posted by rhubarb4

Brilliant I'm looking forward to this review, It will be the deciding factor to wether I get one, or still be stuck between the jvc x30 and panny 5000.

Chris.

now the price of the JVC X30 in 2D spec has been revised at £2595 its a clear cut decision for me.

Allan

[Lastshadow]

Originally Posted by Ideal AV

now the price of the JVC X30 in 2D spec has been revised at £2595 its a clear cut decision for me.

Allan

What's this price revise? I ask because Australia is just about to release these new models and the list price for the X30 is $4,999.00 AU. I wonder if they will revise the price soon also?

[Ideal AV]

Originally Posted by Lastshadow

What's this price revise? I ask because Australia is just about to release these new models and the list price for the X30 is $4,999.00 AU. I wonder if they will revise the price soon also?

As far as I`m aware its JVC UK that have revised the UK prices, not sure at all if its going to be world wide so can`t really comment.

what I can say is at £2595 rrp, the X30 is a proper bargain especially for those who aren`t really interested in 3D as for me its the best 2D machine out their for under £4900 rrp.

Allan

[Lastshadow]

Originally Posted by Ideal AV

As far as I`m aware its JVC UK that have revised the UK prices, not sure at all if its going to be world wide so can`t really comment.

what I can say is at £2595 rrp, the X30 is a proper bargain especially for those who aren`t really interested in 3D as for me its the best 2D machine out their for under £4900 rrp.

Allan

Thanks for the info, I really do hope JVC Aust follows suit.

[MickB]

I'm seriously considering this or the Sony HW30, viewing distance 14ft, projector ceiling-mounted overhead, & screen is 8ft wide, 0.8 gain grey Othelloline.
Most of my viewing will be 2D, but obviosuly want 3D capability. Biggest question seems to be whether TW9000 will be too bright in 2D, & Sony too dim in 3D.
Room is light-controlled (dark grey walls / ceiling, black carpet, blackout blinds).

Would love to hear comments?

[Ideal AV]

Originally Posted by MickB

I'm seriously considering this or the Sony HW30, viewing distance 14ft, projector ceiling-mounted overhead, & screen is 8ft wide, 0.8 gain grey Othelloline.
Most of my viewing will be 2D, but obviosuly want 3D capability. Biggest question seems to be whether TW9000 will be too bright in 2D, & Sony too dim in 3D.
Room is light-controlled (dark grey walls / ceiling, black carpet, blackout blinds).

Would love to hear comments?

Hi Mick

do you mind if I comment?

I doubt the Epson will be too bright for you, infact it won`t be, your 0.8 gain needs lumens throwing at it which is what the Epson excels at.

That said the Sony is quite a performer with 2d and 3d so don`t discount it.

if 2d is your forte then now the JVC X30 has dropped in price to £2595 in its 2d guise, you`d be mad not to include it as it beats the other in this area without question bUt they are all star performers.

The main thing is to have a demonstration of all 3 machines at the same time in the same room, this will help you decide which way to go but with 2d its the JVC for me every time, and a close call which i`d choose for 3d so demo demo demo.

Allan @ Ideal AV

[MickB]

Thanks Allan, of course you're right, can't call it without a demo, and being in the M Keynes area, you may well be my closest opportunity for this.

You'd need to promise not to switch on the VW1000, unless my numbers come up tonight

[Ideal AV]

Mick

if my no`s come up tonight you can have a Sony 1000

don`t ask to see the Sony 95 either

it`ll be a pleasure to see you if you make it up here

cheers and have a great weekend

Allan

[rhubarb4]

Im going up to see Allan at Ideal on Saturday to see the 9000 and the x30, so I'm itching to see Steve withers review on the Epson. Now the x30 has dropped in price it's going to be a hard choice.


Chris.

[iantan]

With the price drop i might have been tempted, I really wanted the lens memory function for CIH viewing.

But I'm still pleased with the 9000, I suppose you have to choose between 2d, 3d, memory function etc...... What's the most important for you.

[MickB]

Hi Rhubarb,
+1, need to see that review asap

Question for existing owners, does anyone know the spacing for the mounting bolts for this, if I do pop for one I'd like to know if I need to change my ceiling mount as well?

thanks.

[Ideal AV]

Hi Chris

looking forward to seeing you saturday.

its a close call in a living room enviroment but I think you`ll find both pj`s will perform extremely well

Allan

[cl7gr]

Originally Posted by iantan

With the price drop i might have been tempted, I really wanted the lens memory function for CIH viewing.

But I'm still pleased with the 9000, I suppose you have to choose between 2d, 3d, memory function etc...... What's the most important for you.

I am not sure that Jvc is better for 2d since there is no cms so you can't have good color saturation, there is not enough light to fill bigger screens, the interpolation has a lot of jitter and the shadow detail or even sharpness doesn't best epson,...

[iantan]

I know, which is why I went with the Epson as the best allrounder.

Now to save up for that anamorphic lens.....

[cl7gr]

Originally Posted by iantan

I know, which is why I went with the Epson as the best allrounder.

Now to save up for that anamorphic lens.....

\
And now i will give you a tip!!!! Do you know Epson price in Hellas?
Epson EH-TW9000 | Skroutz.gr

With 2 pair of glasses encluded.... And the street price is even better!!!

[iantan]

For that price, do they throw in Greece?

[cl7gr]

Originally Posted by Steve Withers

I currently have the TW9000W in for testing, the review will be up by Tuesday.

Where is the review?

[Steve Withers]

Testing is all finished, I'm just writing it up at the moment.

[rhubarb4]

Originally Posted by iantan

With the price drop i might have been tempted, I really wanted the lens memory function for CIH viewing.

But I'm still pleased with the 9000, I suppose you have to choose between 2d, 3d, memory function etc...... What's the most important for you.

Hi I think it wont get used much for 3D if I seriously think about what I will be using it for, but its nice to know its there and great quality too if I end up buying a few 3D Blu-rays.

[rhubarb4]

Originally Posted by Ideal AV

Hi Chris

looking forward to seeing you saturday, we are only 5 mins walking from the railway station so please keep me posted when you may arrive and i`ll have the kettle on.

its a close call in a living room enviroment but I think you`ll find both pj`s will perform extremely well

Allan

Hi Allan, The week seems to be dragging now as I have something to look forward to lol.

I'm also pondering over weather I need wireless HD for the price of the 9000W or save some money with the 9000/JVC X30 and have a long HDMI cable, as I will need a power cable the same length as I have no socket local to were I will have the PJ seated.

Hopefully I should arrive at Normanton around 11, I've been routed via Sheffield now so I will let you know when I'm close and I can always ponder round for a bit if the other guy arrives that's booked before me.


Thanks, Chris.

[Lastshadow]

I'm very interested and looking forward to the review as this projector is at the top of my list.

[MickB]

We're all poised for the review to pop up, in the meantime, there seems to be mention on the AVS forum that the pixel convergence menu is not available on Euro model unless you delve into service menu's, can anyone confirm / deny that please?
Also, would like to know the spacing of the mounting holes to see whether my existing ceiling mount is suitable......

[cl7gr]

Pixel alignment is available on Euro model

EPSON EH TW-9000 PIXEL ALIGNMENT by Perfectimage.gr - YouTube

[technique786]

I am in two minds at the moment with an expensive projector and cheap screen or vice versa, i am definitely getting an epson either way so wanted to know is their a universal epson mount i can install that would work with either projector i go for?