[mark2929]

Is there a way to use the RGB inputs on the seleco with the composite out of a blu ray player?

I'm thinking that inside the RGB scart is another wire with additional information that would have to be somehow taken from the composite leads and through the appropriate scart wires to the projector..

Would need a crossover box of some kind..

Would I get any benefits from this? If the projector has 1000 TV lines

[BobbyBlaze]

Read this thread for the best way to get a HD source on a seleco 350 from a computer:-

seleco 350p

As for direct from bluray, RGB scart would be the best. If you have a selco 320 you can use component if you set the BD player to 576i. I always found component to be not quite as good as pure RGB though.

As for the seleco 350/320's promise of more than 1000 tv lines, this is pure nonsense. I once rang them up about it years ago and they stated it was theoretical performance based on a 25i picture (12 frames per second).

Having said that, a very well set up seleco can still give a very good SD picture particularly if the source is HD to start. See the thread quoted for more info. Well worth doing, even if just to see once.

[mark2929]

Thanks Bobby

Possibly though I'm looking for a different solution. I'd like to use the RGB scart inputs on the seleco with a blu ray player if this is possible.

Mark

[BobbyBlaze]

That's easy. Get a bluray player with RGB scart, set the scart output to RGB, plug it in to the PJ and enjoy the best picture you can get on a 350. Seeeemples!

Edit:-

I don't think you'd be posting about this if it was quite that simple. I'm assuming now that your BD player does not have a scart socket. Is that correct? If not tell us what BD player you've got and we can let you know what the best course of action is.

Edit 2:

Ok, bored of waiting and already got the answer for you. No scart on BD player? No problem. This is the best way to do it if you have no component input on the 350 (the 320 with component input is sometimes mislabeled as a 350).

Use HDMI (set to 576i)

plug it into a HDfury 2 : http://dme.ghost2.net/hdfury/home.php?SID=53&deflang=en

Buy one of these vga->5bnc cables :

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_t...All-Categories

Plug the Vga end into the HDfury2 and the 5 bnc's into the back of the PJ.

Voila.

PS. Don't even bother trying to plug a BD player's composite out into the seleco's scart socket. Composite output is inherently crap (same goes for SVGA to a lesser extent). You'd be better off with RGB scart from a regular DVD player.

pps. You might be thinking, "Hey I just wanted to plug it in. I don't want to buy any converter gizmo's". Tough titties, amigo. That SD seleco with it's big screen needs all the help it can get. Do it and it will blow the best picture you've seen on it from DVD into tiny little pieces. Next time buy a BD player with outputs that fit your PJ.

[mark2929]

Hi Bobby

Sorry been watching TV!

Ok I dont yet have a blue ray player and thats why I'm here to see if its worth getting one. So which player would you recommend for me to use with the 350? Ideally I'd like to use the scart RGB on my pj.

Mark

[BobbyBlaze]

Ahhhh, now I'm with you.

As far as BD players go, take your pick. You pays your money and you takes your choice as Barry Norman used to say. If bought from the UK, it should come with an RGB scart socket anyway. I thought you must have imported one.

As for the picture, if I can quote from the previous thread I made about this, "Best way to describe HD on a seleco 350 is to connect up an Xbox 360 or PS3 through RGB scart and view some photos on it. The multi-megapixel picture scaled down to 720x576 is much more detailed than a DVD, right? Well, if you can imagine that moving that's pretty much what you'll get."

Is it as good as what you'd get from a native HD pj? Hmm... not really.
Is it going to be a heck of a lot better than what you get from DVD at the moment? Abso-bloody-lutely. You may find that the bump in picture quality you get will tide you over until you get the itch to upgrade the PJ later on.

As 3D is getting a major push next year, I'm waiting for 120hz digitals to come out at a reasonable price, perhapsin the next year or two. I'm sure that whatever digital artifacts that I don't agree with will more than be compensated for with big screen 3D gaming. I certainly wouldn't upgrade to a 2D HD digital PJ at the moment, that's for sure.

[mark2929]

Thanks Bobby

I'll start looking at some players I've noticed though that many of them dont seem to have scart RGB out?

Mark

[BobbyBlaze]

Really, I know HDMI is the 'new scart' but I never thought they'd jettison such a handy ubiquitous connection so early even if it is only SD. Well, that makes your choice even easier, doesn't it? Certainly narrows down the field, that's for sure. Make sure it's got an RGB scart and you are good to go, old son

[BobbyBlaze]

double post. deleted.

[ovation1357]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlaze

As 3D is getting a major push next year, I'm waiting for 120hz digitals to come out at a reasonable price, perhapsin the next year or two. I'm sure that whatever digital artifacts that I don't agree with will more than be compensated for with big screen 3D gaming. I certainly wouldn't upgrade to a 2D HD digital PJ at the moment, that's for sure.

I think 3D is going to be a very short-lived. Simply because there are far too many people (myself included) who cannot see it. I was visiting a friend's house only yesterday where he'd recorded some of the UK's Channel 4 3D Week and had the official glasses - Only one out of three of us could see the effect. He has bad astigmatism in one eye and I had a lazy-eye as a child which means my brain treats each eye independently.

Let's face it - 3D is not new. I remember the 3D Nightmare on Elm Street being in the cinemas around 1989/1990, so with the exception that a modern stereo projection system will use light polarisers rather than colour filters to achieve the effect. That at least, doesn't look quite as crap as a blue/yellow/red/green outline for us two-dimensional beings :-)

It was all the rage 20 years ago. Then it went away. I think it's going to go away again... UNTIL, someone invents a technology that truly represents all three dimensions without any cheap tricks.

Anyway - my post isn't supposed to start a big argument or flame-war.. I'm certainly jealous of those who can experience objects flying at them from the screen, but felt it necessary to point out that a *lot* of people can't see the effect (e.g. Enough to represent a seriously ******-off user group, if broadcast TV went '3D').

[BobbyBlaze]

My sister has the exact same condition as you. Since she can only see out of one eye at a time I thought she'd be screwed when cinema/tv went 3d so as an experiment I covered each eye of my polarised glasses one at a time and rather than the double vision mess you get without the glasses you get a clear version of the image for each eye from a slightly different perspective. Sort of a 2.5 D, if you like.

Gotta say if I could get a version of Haunted House 3D at home that worked like it did at the Imax, I would be all over it. 3d gaming looks the sh!t as well.

[Barcoing Mad]

At the risk of wandering OT, in theory, the crossed polar system for 3-D should look realistic - two pictures with slightly shifted perspective is exactly what light from the real world feeds into our binoculars - and in principle this can be reproduced.

Where the crossed-polar rechinique falls down as a result of leakage from one 'channel' to the other -due to either the light from the two images not being perfectly orthogonally polarised, or else the glasses not being ideal.