[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by PioFreak

The addictcs are restless on the corner waiting for their hookup....come on wheres the info

I am one of them

I spent some time today over at my local dealer looking at the 950, ideally I'd have liked to have compared it directly to the 750 but as 950 had an anamorphic lens fitted it would have meant a bit of mucking about, but to be honest I'd have to say that the 950 is so close to the 750's performance it wasn't neccasary.

We viewed it on THX setting which really looked stunning, especially on a 3m screen, its hard to see how projection could look much better, we watched several scenes from Dark Knight, the image looked nothing short of stunning, with amazing black levels and a real natural look to the colours, I played around with the other presets, with cinema 3 adding a real burst of colour which will be great for watching things like Cars and Toy story, but I'd have to say if you have a 750, you can sleep easy, and at the price 750's are going for now then they are a total bargain, once they have gone then the 950 is still a relative bargain at £6000, as I can't see anything at this price getting close.

For now though I'll be sticking with my 750, well until I get to see the 990

[PioFreak]

Originally Posted by vipers

I spent some time today over at TLC looking at the 950, ideally I'd have liked to have compared it directly to the 750 but as TLC's 950 had an anamorphic lens fitted it would have meant a bit of mucking about, but to be honest I'd have to say that the 950 is so close to the 750's performance it wasn't neccasary.

We viewed it on THX setting which really looked stunning, especially on a 3m screen, its hard to see how projection could look much better, we watched several scenes from Dark Knight, the image looked nothing short of stunning, with amazing black levels and a real natural look to the colours, I played around with the other presets, with cinema 3 adding a real burst of colour which will be great for watching things like Cars and Toy story, but I'd have to say if you have a 750, you can sleep easy, and at the price 750's are going for now then they are a total bargain, once they have gone then the 950 is still a relative bargain at £6000, as I can't see anything at this price getting close.

For now though I'll be sticking with my 750, well until I get to see the 990

Any more pop and depth to the mixed brightness scenes due to higher ansi?

[mattmarsden]

Do JVC have any official motorised anamorphic lenses for these projectors or does anyone produce an anamorphic lens designed specifically for them with mounting plate etc that screws directly to the projector?

[Phil Hinton]

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So, what exactly will you get to see?

* The new JVC DLA-HD550 DILA Projector
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* A UK Exclusive first look at the DLA-HD990 DILA Projector


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* Plus JVC’s LT-42WX70 LCD TV
* And we will demonstrate the JVC Anamorphic projection solution

[GaryB]

Originally Posted by mattmarsden

Do JVC have any official motorised anamorphic lenses for these projectors or does anyone produce an anamorphic lens designed specifically for them with mounting plate etc that screws directly to the projector?

There are several companies that have anamorphic lenses with attachments for these models.

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by PioFreak

Any more pop and depth to the mixed brightness scenes due to higher ansi?

To be honest without doing direct A-B testing its very difficult to come to a conclusion on that, personally I'd say I couldn't see much difference, both the 750 and 950 are both top drawer projectors, I think maybe the 990 will be the projector to really up the game and move things on, I'm hoping anyway

[Tony Lazzerini]

Originally Posted by mattmarsden

Do JVC have any official motorised anamorphic lenses for these projectors or does anyone produce an anamorphic lens designed specifically for them with mounting plate etc that screws directly to the projector?

The Schneider lens is the one JVC "recommend" (I am fairly sure they do not specifically endorse it though) and that we, and several other dealers, supply.

It is supplied with a motorised mounting kit that screws to the bottom of the projector where the feet go. Setting up is fiddly, and it needs it's own power supply and at least basic control, but the effect is stunning. You can see it in our Screen 1 projecting on a 3m-wide screen with some top-notch sound anytime you're passing.

Tony

[Tony Lazzerini]

Originally Posted by vipers

To be honest without doing direct A-B testing its very difficult to come to a conclusion on that, personally I'd say I couldn't see much difference, both the 750 and 950 are both top drawer projectors, I think maybe the 990 will be the projector to really up the game and move things on, I'm hoping anyway

The 950 is blacker than the 750, and MUCH blacker than the 350. As a result everything just looks nicer (bit more depth, bit richer colours - like a Kuro really)

The THX mode is so good I wonder about the value of an isf calibration.

Tony

[Phil Hinton]

Originally Posted by Tony Lazzerini

The 950 is blacker than the 750, and MUCH blacker than the 350. As a result everything just looks nicer (bit more depth, bit richer colours - like a Kuro really)

Looks like I will have fun measuring them side by side for the reviews then!

The THX mode is so good I wonder about the value of an isf calibration.

Tony

It is good to see these presets, we have been pushing for them for years now, but my experience so far is that there is always quite a bit of room for improvement to get it correct for the source, room its used in, industry standards and to take in the obvious tolerances between units.

But I will certainly be testing it out fully, and to have the option of as correct as possible greyscale and gamut out the box can only be a good thing. Wonder if the 550 will have a nice gamut preset this year?

Earlier in the thread I made a post about deciding between the HD550 and HD750. Happy to report I went with the 750 in the end despite my room likely not being able to show its potential. I figured the CMS and higher overall native contrast was worth it over the marginal improvements made to the HD550 over last years HD350.

To all the future HD550 and HD950 owners - enjoy your machines

[clehner]

Originally Posted by Tony Lazzerini

The THX mode is so good I wonder about the value of an isf calibration.

Well, even if the THX setting is almost perfect (which I doubt), you always have to check and measure yourself just to be sure it is correct.

There have been many units (maybe 5-10%) that were just not in the spec range (light output, uniformity, gamma, contrast etc.). It's like playing lottery if you don't take a very close look yourself.

It is never a good idea to simply trust the ootb settings or even buy a high end projector from an unreliable source and rely on some presets.

[ShanePJ]

Are there any dealers out there with the JVC in stock so people can go along and have a look?

Just to let everyone know that although we do not currently have stock, but we do have a the preview model JVC DLA HD550 in our store as of today. We have this projector until Thursday 24th as advertised on the avforums banners. Anybody wishing to see this projector first hand and or pitch it against the HD350 and HD750 projectors still in our demonstration room, please do contact give us a call.

Regards. Shane.

[Pecker]

Originally Posted by Phil Hinton

It is good to see these presets, we have been pushing for them for years now, but my experience so far is that there is always quite a bit of room for improvement to get it correct for the source, room its used in, industry standards and to take in the obvious tolerances between units.

But I will certainly be testing it out fully, and to have the option of as correct as possible greyscale and gamut out the box can only be a good thing.

Phil, I don't doubt for a second that a full ISF would make things better - I suppose it's a question of just how close this can get. I suppose a calibration costs the same whether it removes a 10% error or a 1% error, and maybe that's where vfm starts to come in.

There should be a point at which tolerence stops playing a part, as manufacturing techniques improve. It may be that JVC have insisted that their component suppliers have stricter quality control.

Nonetheless, I can't wait to see your review. It'd be very interesting indeed if they let you have two units so you could see how the calman graphs compared, though I imagine that'd be asking a bit much.

Steve W

[Phil Hinton]

Originally Posted by Pecker

It'd be very interesting indeed if they let you have two units so you could see how the calman graphs compared, though I imagine that'd be asking a bit much.

Steve W

I have a JVC HD750 that is here all the time, it's our reference projector, so its easy to put them against each other when the new models arrive.

As for the calibration. an error of 10% is quite visible to the naked eye (I have never seen an error of less with a preset and I test lots and lots of displays). Plus don't forget the screen, room, lighting, wall and ceiling colours and of course the sources all of which will affect the image, sometimes vastly reducing performance. Its not just about the display or the cost. Of course do the training we offer, buy some kit and for the price of two calibrations you can do it yourself and as often as you wish which for a projector owner is a great deal.

[Tony Lazzerini]

Originally Posted by clehner

Well, even if the THX setting is almost perfect (which I doubt), you always have to check and measure yourself just to be sure it is correct.

There have been many units (maybe 5-10%) that were just not in the spec range (light output, uniformity, gamma, contrast etc.). It's like playing lottery if you don't take a very close look yourself.

It is never a good idea to simply trust the ootb settings or even buy a high end projector from an unreliable source and rely on some presets.

Agreed, but if you get a chance to look at the 950, you will be amazed at how good the picture looks ootb.

Tony

[Tony Lazzerini]

Originally Posted by Pecker

Phil, I don't doubt for a second that a full ISF would make things better - I suppose it's a question of just how close this can get. I suppose a calibration costs the same whether it removes a 10% error or a 1% error, and maybe that's where vfm starts to come in.

There should be a point at which tolerence stops playing a part, as manufacturing techniques improve. It may be that JVC have insisted that their component suppliers have stricter quality control.

Nonetheless, I can't wait to see your review. It'd be very interesting indeed if they let you have two units so you could see how the calman graphs compared, though I imagine that'd be asking a bit much.

Steve W

There are only 2 units in the entire country right now!!

Tony

Originally Posted by Tony Lazzerini

There are only 2 units in the entire country right now!!

Tony

[yoda]No there is another...[/yoda]

[clehner]

Originally Posted by Tony Lazzerini

Agreed, but if you get a chance to look at the 950, you will be amazed at how good the picture looks ootb.

Tony

I believe you. The THX mode of the HD750 wasn't bad either, actually it was the only very good setting before firmware 1.1 was released!

Things have become better since, I suppose, and the HD950/HD990 will be the cream of the crop, an evolutionary result of the best HD750s.

Still, don't rely on labels on boxes alone, look out for somebody who does not just sell you the D-ILA, but also does the last extra quality control for you! A good HD750 might be a much better choice than a bad HD950 (no serial production is absolutely perfect).

[Barcoing Mad]

Have the problems with motion blur and loss of bit depth during (some) pans be resolved with the new PJs? I was hoping that FI was JVC's way of quietly addressing these issues, but if 24fps playback has been left alone, I'm not sure.

[Phil Hinton]

Originally Posted by Barcoing Mad

Have the problems with motion blur and loss of bit depth during (some) pans be resolved with the new PJs? I was hoping that FI was JVC's way of quietly addressing these issues, but if 24fps playback has been left alone, I'm not sure.

You can switch the FI on or off with 24fps material. We have yet to really test the results.

[GaryB]

For anyone thinking of getting one of these, my Remote Control Guide that was originally written for the HD350/750 has now been updated to include the new remote codes used in these models, It is is available now from:

JVC D-ILA Remote Control Guide Download

[Jon P]

Originally Posted by Barcoing Mad

Have the problems with motion blur and loss of bit depth during (some) pans be resolved with the new PJs? I was hoping that FI was JVC's way of quietly addressing these issues, but if 24fps playback has been left alone, I'm not sure.

FI is not the solution for 24fps it adds rather nasty artifacts to 24fps material.

[GaryB]

We've had a little delivery.

[RICKYJ]

Originally Posted by GaryB

We've had a little delivery.

So little we can't see it, unless I am missing something

Edit: Can see it now. Did not work for me first time.......

[kutlow]

Originally Posted by GaryB

We've had a little delivery.

How long until you can compare it to the rs 20?

[Jackass]

Originally Posted by GaryB

We've had a little delivery.

Get that sucker unpacked and reviewed, today!

Looking forward to your review

[Vipers @ HiFi Lounge]

Originally Posted by GaryB

We've had a little delivery.

This is where things get interesting, eagerly awaiting initial impressions, especially on those black levels.

[GaryB]

If anyone wants to take a look at the Instruction Books for the DLA-HD550/950/990, I've posted them on the JVC Support site:

DLA-HD550

DLA-HD950/990

They contain English, French & Spanish versions and are around 29Mb each.

[PioFreak]

Originally Posted by GaryB

If anyone wants to take a look at the Instruction Books for the DLA-HD550/950/990, I've posted them on the JVC Support site:

DLA-HD550

DLA-HD950/990

They contain English, French & Spanish versions and are around 29Mb each.

Will you be doing an informal review and be giving your impressions? I am between the JVC 950 and the Sony VW-85, but there has been some conflicting reports regarding the on off CR of the Sony, so the JVC's are looking better by the day.

[JonStatt]

I sold my HD1 in anticipation of getting an HD750. Due to unexpected delays, my HD750 didn't materialise and I was getting restless without any projector and seeing the cables dangling from the ceiling. So I did something a little impulsive and got myself an HD950. My local dealer had saleable stock in during this week. It is already up and in position in my house. The room isn't perfectly sealed for light, so it will be this evening before I can really evaluate it.

However, I can say

1) Colour uniformity - looks spot on
2) Luminance uniformity - okay on white screen test...a bit brighter towards top left corner, but otherwise acceptable. Will evalaute this more in the evening
3) Convergence. Very good. Needed one vertical pixel shift in blue, but well within a pixel over whole screen
4) Lens distortion - Some barrel distortion as I use a short throw position
5) Noise - Very quiet compared to the HD1

There is the usual "slop" when adjusting shift, zoom, focus so it takes a bit of fiddling but its much easier than the manual job I had to do with my HD1.

More opinions to come soon.