[IronGiant]

Originally Posted by GAZBEROTTEN

At this point any chance the Coalition had of winning any future polls is now out of the water. After this i doubt anyone wants Cameron or his coalition in.

And can someone move this thread to politics please?

no, because it has nothing to do with politics

however desperate you are to have it bring down the government over a minor family incident

[johntheexpat]

The only good thing about this story about being mere mortals is that James delingpole in the telegraph shows himself to be undeniably the biggest ******* **** ****** **** in the media at the moment.
But we all knew that anyway.

So what if Cameron left his daughter behind in the pub? – Telegraph Blogs

"But hey, nobody died". Well you gormless bastard, there is a long list of kids that have died after similar incidences.

[GAZBEROTTEN]

Originally Posted by johntheexpat

The only good thing about this story about being mere mortals is that James delingpole in the telegraph shows himself to be undeniably the biggest ******* **** ****** **** in the media at the moment.
But we all knew that anyway.

So what if Cameron left his daughter behind in the pub? – Telegraph Blogs

"But hey, nobody died". Well you gormless bastard, there is a long list of kids that have died after similar incidences.

Exactly the problem is a lot of people on here do not understand the risk involved in leaving a child alone like that.

[IronGiant]

Which lot?

name one

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by johntheexpat

Well you gormless bastard, there is a long list of kids that have died after similar incidences.

I have never read of any kid ending up dead after being left in a pub for 15 minutes whilst being looked after by adult staff. I don't understand what you mean by similar incidents?

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by GAZBEROTTEN

Exactly the problem is a lot of people on here do not understand the risk involved in leaving a child alone like that.

What were the risks of this exact situation?

[imightbewrong]

Originally Posted by mrtbag

I have never read of any kid ending up dead after being left in a pub for 15 minutes whilst being looked after by adult staff. I don't understand what you mean by similar incidents?

Children die after being left - tragically often in cars. However these are young children who cannot fend for themselves - even unclip their seatbelt, let alone open a door. The Cameron's child was eight, and will be much more independant, requiring 'looser' control than an infant or toddler.

[Bill Hicks]

Originally Posted by gibbsy

I cannot think of a better reason for banning children from pubs. Screaming brats running around ruining the ambience for people trying to eat a meal. Then leaving them there alone whilst you journey home. Disgusting.

Anyway sack the nanny.

Ha! That's another thing. People who visit the pub to eat!
No wonder real pubs are closing down.
But I do agree with you. Nothing worse than a good pub turning into a creche whilst trying to enjoy a beer.

[johntheexpat]

Originally Posted by mrtbag

I have never read of any kid ending up dead after being left in a pub for 15 minutes whilst being looked after by adult staff. I don't understand what you mean by similar incidents?

Where a kid is temporarily 'lost' due to a lack of attention. 'Lost' as in the sense that the parents don't know where the child is, or even that at that moment the child is missing. The child in this case could be considered lucky in that for the 15 minutes the parents were unaware, she had been noticed by trustworthy people and kept safe.

[mrtbag]

I must be a really bad parent, as I just don't see the potential for a dead child in this story.

Let's put this on a scale. At one end you have this story, on the other end you have the McCanns.

[GAZBEROTTEN]

Even the gaurdian is reporting on this along with Sky News

When you have both independent and dependent news sources reporting on this it just really isn't good and is looking very grimm

Prime Minister David Cameron Left Daughter Nancy, 8, At Local Pub Close To Chequers Residence | UK News | Sky News
David Cameron left daughter behind after pub visit | Politics | guardian.co.uk
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-in-pub-872466
http://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/david-cameron-leaves-daughter-in-pub-after-car-mix-up-1-23493http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/u...h-7835569.html35
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-16170643.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...53.html?ref=uk
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...er-in-pub?lite
http://www.itv.com/news/2012-06-11/d...er-in-the-pub/

Theres yet to be comments, and news reports from people/the media not aware of this.

[IronGiant]

Even the Guardian?

so what?

why are you trying to big this up into something it isn't?.

Anyone would think you had an anti-tory agenda here

[Liquid101]

Originally Posted by mrtbag

What were the risks of this exact situation?

Ooooooh, I don't know. Perhaps that the 8 year old child of the leader of a G8 nation was left exposed with no security.

Had that child been kidnapped, the resulting mess would have caused a major situation that would have cost millions and compromised our prime minister

[GAZBEROTTEN]

Thankyou Liquid

[mrtbag]

Having read more, it seems it is thier 'local' near Chequers. A place they visit often. A place where no doubt the staff know them quite well.

Oh wait, is that one of those pubs who only employ axe murderers, child snatchers and peados.

[IronGiant]

Originally Posted by Liquid101

Ooooooh, I don't know. Perhaps that the 8 year old child of the leader of a G8 nation was left exposed with no security.

Had that child been kidnapped, the resulting mess would have caused a major situation that would have cost millions and compromised our prime minister

ah, but gaz was talking about the dangers of leaving "a" child alone and claiming lots didn't know the risks involved.

[balidey]

The child COULD have been kidnapped.
Its a common ploy of the Taliban and the Russian Mafia. They follow G8 leaders to pub lunches just on the off chance that a child gets left behind. The one time it actually happens and no terrorist are in the pub at the same time. They must be kicking themselves.

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by Liquid101

Ooooooh, I don't know. Perhaps that the 8 year old child of the leader of a G8 nation was left exposed with no security.

Had that child been kidnapped, the resulting mess would have caused a major situation that would have cost millions and compromised our prime minister

And the chances of a kidnapping happening in that situation?

[indianwells]

Originally Posted by liamt

we all know the super rich can get away with not looking after their kids. see the mccanns. different story if some estate family did the same thing. public uproar. i guess dave thought the nanny was looking after them

Utter testicles.

Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

Maybe not "super rich" but very middle class.
I'm not going down the route of slagging off the McCann's after all they've suffered.

And if the Cameron's daughter had suffered a similar fate? Would their suffering be somehow less worthy of your sympathy? I'm disappointed in you Bill, there is rarely a comment from you that I disagree with.

[IronGiant]

I love it when GAZ thanks people who are actually extracting the urine out of him

[GaseousClay]

Originally Posted by mrtbag

And the chances of a kidnapping happening in that situation?

Why are we paying for him and his family to be followed around by security then?

[balidey]

The leader of Syria is possibly behind an act of genocide, clearing entire villages.
No thread called: 'proof this man is not fit to lead'

PM leaves child in a pub for 8 minutes.
Thread called :'proof this man is not fit to lead'

Just imagine if Clegg had tripped over his shoe laces....
'Proof this buffon has no balance, how can he possible be part of the alliance?'

Reallity is, the kid was not harmed, no problem, no political story, just perhaps a bit of embaresment.
There was a time when I 'lost' one of my kids for about 2 minutes. I thought she was meant to stop with me, but walked off with mum instead. I was pooing bricks. Wife called me a numpty and we had a laugh about it. My work colleages don't tell me I'm a crap manager because of it.

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by GaseousClay

Why are we paying for him and his family to be followed around by security then?

He has security, the kids don't.

I'm sure if you ask Dave he probably thinks it's overkill for a Sunday lunch too.

It was a quick lunch at their local pub with friends, no kidnapping was ever on the cards IMO.

[Bill Hicks]

Originally Posted by indianwells

I'm disappointed in you Bill, there is rarely a comment from you that I disagree with.

In my defence I wasn't commenting that their class or social status had anything to do with their loss or that it would be less or more tragic but simply that if the same had happened to a lower working class family the reaction would be more spiteful.

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by balidey

Reallity is, the kid was not harmed, no problem, no political story, just perhaps a bit of embaresment.
There was a time when I 'lost' one of my kids for about 2 minutes. I thought she was meant to stop with me, but walked off with mum instead. I was pooing bricks. Wife called me a numpty and we had a laugh about it. My work colleages don't tell me I'm a crap manager because of it.

At last, some sense.

My 5 year old still can't talk properly (she has a few issues). Last year we were playing hide and seek on a caravan park we were staying at. My 7 year ols falls over and cuts knee. I took literally 2 minutes to go inside our caravan and get a plaster, came back out 5 year old nowhere to be seen. 25 minutes later, I find her over the other side of the park with an old lady. Yes I was crapping it, because I was worried for her as she can't explain where we are or what our names are. But this caravan site has no way for a kid to get out, security on all gates 24/7. Staff patrolling all the time. There was never a risk she'd be lost forever.

[kav]

Originally Posted by Bill Hicks

In my defence I wasn't commenting that their class or social status had anything to do with their loss or that it would be less or more tragic but simply that if the same had happened to a lower working class family the reaction would be more spiteful.

I don't think it would. People do silly things all the time, each parent presuming the other had the child is an easy mistake to make and usually becomes no more than the stuff of funny dinner-table conversations.

The fact that this minor issue is being used in the media for political reasons is pathetic, and I'd say that regardless of which politician it was who made the mistake.

[imightbewrong]

Originally Posted by Liquid101

Ooooooh, I don't know. Perhaps that the 8 year old child of the leader of a G8 nation was left exposed with no security.

I don't know the answer to this but do the children have constant security? e.g. when they go to school, visit friends, go for swimming lessons etc?

[mrtbag]

Originally Posted by imightbewrong

I don't know the answer to this but do the children have constant security? e.g. when they go to school, visit friends, go for swimming lessons etc?

There is only mandatory security for the PM himself. The family is 'opt-in' and usually just for special occasions (sunday pub lunch excluded!!).

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by IronGiant

expressed what?, milk?

that would be funny...

thats right, milk. i was leaving it to you fill the missing word and its taken you 10 minutes

[la gran siete]

Originally Posted by IronGiant

no, because it has nothing to do with politics

however desperate you are to have it bring down the government over a minor family incident

it depends on how many "how can he be such a negligent parent, is he fit to run the country?" types there are out there who will bear this in mind come the next election.Voters can be very fickle after all and after all those photo shoots when he couldnt wait to shove his baby before the cameras . they might wonder what kind of parent leaves a young child in a pub
Just another small nail in the DC coffin