Movies Podcast : 17th September 2007

**Stuart Wright** · 17-09-2007, 12:50 PM

AVForums Movies Podcast : 17th September 2007
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In this months edition:

01:00 Cinema news
12:00 DVD, HD DVD and Blu-ray news
19:40 Reign Over Me UK Blu-ray review
24:10 The Descent US Blu-ray review

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Adam_uk · 17-09-2007, 1:26 PM

At last- something to listen to in the gym tonight!

Adam_uk · 17-09-2007, 9:16 PM

Well, this was not really worth the wait.

It was very short- far shorter than normal.

When was it recorded? In the news section they mention Transformers has just been announced on HD DVD. Which makes it around the 5th?

Not only is this half a month late for the recording- I find it odd that no mention was made of the Paramount story- it was just alluded to.

The reviews were good as normal. The news lacked some punch- for film 'experts' I was a bit suprised they had not heard of Superbad or Atonement (especially that its based on a rather famous novel).

I felt is was well below the normal (very) high standard of these Podcasts, especially as we had not wait so long.

I feel like I am very critical of these lately, especially as they are free! But I guess when you get used to soemthing being so good its hard to see them drop in quality.

Keith Hurst · 17-09-2007, 9:36 PM

I think you'll find that Chris did mention Atonement in his upcoming movie releases he was looking forward to.

KH

kevin_irl · 17-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_uk

Well, this was not really worth the wait.

It was very short- far shorter than normal.

When was it recorded? In the news section they mention Transformers has just been announced on HD DVD. Which makes it around the 5th?

Not only is this half a month late for the recording- I find it odd that no mention was made of the Paramount story- it was just alluded to.

The reviews were good as normal. The news lacked some punch- for film 'experts' I was a bit suprised they had not heard of Superbad or Atonement (especially that its based on a rather famous novel).

I felt is was well below the normal (very) high standard of these Podcasts, especially as we had not wait so long.

I feel like I am very critical of these lately, especially as they are free! But I guess when you get used to soemthing being so good its hard to see them drop in quality.

I agree

**Phil Hinton** · 18-09-2007, 5:26 AM

Guys,

Thanks for the comments, I'm sorry that you feel this podcast was lacking in some way.

To give you some background, yes this was recorded on the 5th and it turned out to be a nightmare as the quality of the call line was very poor, this meant that Keith's input was cut short due to technical issues. You will notice that he is only heard one or twice thoughout. Plus the other reviewers also had issues with line drops and peaks, if you listen carefully you will hear that even after the mix it is still quite poor in audio terms.

Due to these issues the edit took longer than normal as I had to cut most of what Keith said out and also trim the bad quality peaks and bursts from the other dialogue.

I hope you will listen in to the up coming podcasts we hope to bring you guys in the next week, there should be at least one if not two editions as the show season starts again in earnest, plus we have an exclusive first look and discussion on a really big projector due later this year and we are one of the first to see it in the flesh, a clue is it's dila technology.

Adam_uk · 18-09-2007, 6:42 AM

I did wonder that actually- when I said good bye I thought 'who was that, what was his section'?

Looking forward to the new podcasts soon!

jwramsay · 18-09-2007, 7:36 AM

Agree with previous comments, not one of your best podcasts.

That said, keep up the good work, feel bad about giving negative comments on something that is free, but you set such a high standard that this one fell just a trifle short.

Emjel · 18-09-2007, 9:36 PM

Yet another problem with downloading. This file only saves the first minute then cuts out. Even just listening cuts out after a minute. Very frustrating.

Tantalus · 19-09-2007, 8:44 AM

Was going to IM this to Phil but had second thoughts and wanted to make my comments public as it would be interesting to have other opinions.

I think the Movies podcast has lost its way - fundamentally in terms of editorial control. What I mean by that is that it is now becoming what I could only describe as 'meandering'. I have made the point before specifically about Chris. Don't get me wrong he's a good reviewer - he has an incredible passion and enthusiasm but there appears to be no structure or limit to his reviews and its a case of the fast forward button for me now.

A simple structure of: intro - what the release is, what the movie is about, what the reviewer thought (brief!) and then some technical thoughts and specs - pricing and availability dates. And above all - limiting the reviews to say, 5 minutes and getting a lot more in than 3 or 4.

I wouldn't disagree that The Descent is a good movie - but TBH the review just went on far-too-long - and even when he had finished with the specs he stated up again!

This is not meant to be a full-on criticism of Chris - he just needs some direction (pardon the pun - kind of) - and structure. As it stands he's just left to fill the space.

And not everyone is a horror movie fan - so why devote the majority of the podcast to it?

I hope this is taken in the right way. I don't pay for these podcasts - and fully appreciate the content of them and all the other ones I used to listen to. But I WOULD be prepared to donate something - say in Paypal - but not in the present structure.

And a round table discussion would also be of great interest.

mad mac · 19-09-2007, 11:20 AM

I can't agree more.

I'm the first to admit that my gob runs away with itself. Don't mean to. Sorry.

In an ideal world it would be great to have time before a poddie recording to make some notes and structure the spiel a bit better, but that is usually just not the case with me and my family set-up.

Plus, some of the technical disruptions play havoc with the recording, often leaving you having to pick up on points again after a lenghty pause, thereby losing your train of thought completely and, certainly in my case, left meandering.

Basically, my approach to these things has always been like a bunch of mates blabbing on down the in the boozer. AND, considering that I tend to steamroll over my mates to get my points across ... it is hardly surprising that this "blah, blah, yackity-yack" trait has inflitrated the poddie as well.

Once again, sorry for hijacking things and boring you all. And I WILL try my damnedest to reign myself back in next time. Or, at least, have a point at the end of it all.

Cheers,

Mad Mac

dvdmonster · 20-09-2007, 11:57 AM

Why does this show have to be a f*ing spoilerfest??

**Phil Hinton** · 20-09-2007, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdmonster

Why does this show have to be a f*ing spoilerfest??

I hardly think so, you wont find any spoilers in here, go back and listen again and clean your mouth out whilst you are at it.

Tantalus · 20-09-2007, 1:16 PM

Have to admit Phil that I did consider one piece of information from the review of The Descent in which Chris described the fate of one of the characters - as a spoiler. I guess we could assume that most will get killed but Chris should not have been specific regarding 'which' character an event happened to. It might be a different spoiler - but as i said above, if the reviews were a little more reigned in - it may not be an issue.

I was assuming from your lack of input during the review that you had gone to make a cup of tea (and perhaps a sandwich - or indeed had a bath)

dvdmonster · 20-09-2007, 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Hinton

go back and listen again and clean your mouth out whilst you are at it.

I see you are not too high on criticism.

Well, I did listen to it and I was totally right ... this Chris guy is going WAY TOO much into detail about the storylines on numerous occasions.

It's hard enough for us non Scots (or whatever you are) to make out what you are saying, but when we do, please don't spoil everything!

mad mac · 21-09-2007, 6:20 PM

If u look a little further back in this thread you will see that "this Chris guy" has already responded to these grievances and it would have been courteous to have, at least, acknowledged that.

As I said, I am sorry if my runaway mouth "spoils" your enjoyment of the podcasts ... but considering that this very same approach has garnered favourable responses in the past - even from Tantalus - how am I supposed to know when I've overstepped the mark when, as far as I am concerned, I haven't done anything different from normal this time around?

Anyway, if my style is not to your liking and since I do not know of any other approach to take that would be genuine to me, then for the sake of happier experience all round, I will gladly step down from the podcasts for awhile. This is not bitterness on my part - far from it - as all I want is for people to enjoy these little broadcasts in the spirit in which they are intended - film fun. But if my involvement detracts from this then the onus is upon me to make amends.

So, keep listening, guys ... and my vocal chords will enjoy the break.

Cheers,

Mad Mac

Tantalus · 21-09-2007, 6:34 PM

Agreed - dvdmonster was rude.

But Chris, seriously - don't be daft. The movie reviews would NOT be the same - not as informative, not as passionate and not as interesting without you. I believe the success of the movie reviews podcast has in some part been attributed to your contributions.

Since I started this carry on - all I am suggesting is a little more brevity and structure to your reviews to keep them interesting. I very much value what you have to say (I like the same movies as you and enjoy your opinions).

T

Basil Plumley · 21-09-2007, 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdmonster

Why does this show have to be a f*ing spoilerfest??

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdmonster

I see you are not too high on criticism.

Your first comment wasn't criticism - criticism is along the lines of "it was to long - would have enjoyed it had it been shorter".

Your comment was downright rude...

dvdmonster · 22-09-2007, 3:45 PM

Everyone grap a Kleenex and relax

I don't think I was rude.. I was listening to the show and after the 3rd spoiler I just wrote a spontaneous comment. I guess that is why we can post comments to the podcasts, right??

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad mac

If u look a little further back in this thread you will see that "this Chris guy" has already responded to these grievances and it would have been courteous to have, at least, acknowledged that.

Ok Chris, I sure didnt mean to belittle you in any way. I had no way of knowing that a user "mad mac" is Chris from the show without reading you post closely. Maybe you sould put "Chris" somewhere in signature or something if you want people to know who you are.

Anyway....

I dont have any issues with the show, other than the excessive amount of spoilers. It's made by fans, for the fans and if you love Bratz The Movie and want to tell us about it for 10 mins, fine with me ...... but if you tell me that the whole movie takes place underground and that even thou XX XXX is on the poster he is just in the movie 5 mins, but the last scene with hin has cool sound because of all the guns, and that there is the scene where the girls friendship is tested when has to see her friend being eaten ...... you are just destroying the movie for everyone who havent seen it yet.

I don't think it's that hard talking about a movie without going into detail like that. Just give it a try..

Figment · 22-09-2007, 9:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad mac

If u look a little further back in this thread you will see that "this Chris guy" has already responded to these grievances and it would have been courteous to have, at least, acknowledged that.

As I said, I am sorry if my runaway mouth "spoils" your enjoyment of the podcasts ... but considering that this very same approach has garnered favourable responses in the past - even from Tantalus - how am I supposed to know when I've overstepped the mark when, as far as I am concerned, I haven't done anything different from normal this time around?

Anyway, if my style is not to your liking and since I do not know of any other approach to take that would be genuine to me, then for the sake of happier experience all round, I will gladly step down from the podcasts for awhile. This is not bitterness on my part - far from it - as all I want is for people to enjoy these little broadcasts in the spirit in which they are intended - film fun. But if my involvement detracts from this then the onus is upon me to make amends.

So, keep listening, guys ... and my vocal chords will enjoy the break.

Cheers,

Mad Mac

I think it would be a total disaster, and for me at least, the beginning of the end of the movie pocast without Chris. Granted he can talk for England and sometimes goes on a tad long but his enthusiasm and passion for the subject surely transcends this.
Please guys remember that input from all the team is done for the love of the subject without any remuneration and all for the benefit of us the listeners. At a massive cost of time in watching the movies, appraising them and doing the recording.
Ok this one was not up to the usual standard but at least Phil has explained why that is.
My only criticism of the Podcasts have only ever been not long enough, not often enough and poor regularity and that in itself is surely praise.
I truly hope that the odd member ( and a new one at that I note ) who is unable to get a point across without descending into rudeness and swearing will not spoil things for the rest of us.
Keep up the good work guys.